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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;I hate my job. I love my job.&#8221;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;I hate my job. I love my job.&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] header is an accurate – if blunt – summary of this whole mess. I texted it to my girl from my usual spot last night after a friend came in and told me I [...]]]></description>
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		By: H.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve written about creativity within constraints before, about how specifying boundaries within which a task must be performed may actually sharpen focus and unleash originality. Not so for the constraint of finite time? Any practical way of enforcing time constraints different from the opening hours of that coffee shop, and see what direction your work would take under such conditions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve written about creativity within constraints before, about how specifying boundaries within which a task must be performed may actually sharpen focus and unleash originality. Not so for the constraint of finite time? Any practical way of enforcing time constraints different from the opening hours of that coffee shop, and see what direction your work would take under such conditions?</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jonathan From The Mailbag		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jonathan From The Mailbag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] from Admin v. Doctorate: Why can’t you manage your effort/energy better? It’s a little [...]]]></description>
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		By: Amy Hendrickson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The class management niche I’ve carved out, tucked into, and seen a lot of success with recently, exists at the intersection of peer and teacher.&quot;

I&#039;m 37 and believe that even at this age I still have a similar classroom management style to what you&#039;ve described, Dan. 

Maybe I don&#039;t know ALL of the new songs, bands, words, movies like I did in my 20s ...  but I know a few.  (And hey, kids are often into &quot;old school&quot; stuff, too.  Classic music, movies, style never really goes away.  Think AC/DC or Starwars - old, but still relevant to a lot of kids.)

In addition, as adults, we all have co-workers and peers who can be 10, 20 30+ years older than us.  Still peers.  Still someone to learn from.  High school students will soon be in college classes or work situations with similar adult &quot;peer&quot; relationships - it&#039;s not such a jump to have a similar relationship in high school with an &quot;old&quot; teacher, too.

Either choice is good, and whatever you decide, I hope you keep writing about it.
Thanks!

Amy Hendrickson, Co-director and Teacher*
East Range Academy of Technology &#038; Science
MN Public Charter School #4166
(* Truly, the best of both worlds is always possible, too!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The class management niche I’ve carved out, tucked into, and seen a lot of success with recently, exists at the intersection of peer and teacher.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 37 and believe that even at this age I still have a similar classroom management style to what you&#8217;ve described, Dan. </p>
<p>Maybe I don&#8217;t know ALL of the new songs, bands, words, movies like I did in my 20s &#8230;  but I know a few.  (And hey, kids are often into &#8220;old school&#8221; stuff, too.  Classic music, movies, style never really goes away.  Think AC/DC or Starwars &#8211; old, but still relevant to a lot of kids.)</p>
<p>In addition, as adults, we all have co-workers and peers who can be 10, 20 30+ years older than us.  Still peers.  Still someone to learn from.  High school students will soon be in college classes or work situations with similar adult &#8220;peer&#8221; relationships &#8211; it&#8217;s not such a jump to have a similar relationship in high school with an &#8220;old&#8221; teacher, too.</p>
<p>Either choice is good, and whatever you decide, I hope you keep writing about it.<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p>Amy Hendrickson, Co-director and Teacher*<br />
East Range Academy of Technology &amp; Science<br />
MN Public Charter School #4166<br />
(* Truly, the best of both worlds is always possible, too!)</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been reading these comments over several days, and am left shaking my head. Why can&#039;t you manage your effort/energy better? It&#039;s a little problem.

Turn, for a moment, to what you publish here. The production quality of the slides and movies? Wow. Clearly it&#039;s your strength. You know how to grab someone&#039;s attention, and hold it. You know how to draw them in. 

Why not choose an option where you play to your greatest strength? Can you cash in on your sense of presentation, on your construction of moving and still images?

(A second option: we don&#039;t really know much about your math. It could be that you are looking to do some weird stuff in differential geometry or group theory... If you are good enough to do that stuff, more power to you)

On the admin side, not being able to adjust would be a pretty strong demerit. Homework, testing, and now pacing yourself. As far as curriculum, the materials, from a pedagogical view, that you&#039;ve been sharing, have been good. But enough to make that a career choice? I don&#039;t know. For me it&#039;s the quality of the visual product that is always memorable on your blog.

And, of course, you could choose to try to adjust your teaching. Not everyone can, but can you expend the kind of energy on pacing yourself that you do on your slides? (how much energy can you devote to budgeting your energy.. I&#039;m losing it)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading these comments over several days, and am left shaking my head. Why can&#8217;t you manage your effort/energy better? It&#8217;s a little problem.</p>
<p>Turn, for a moment, to what you publish here. The production quality of the slides and movies? Wow. Clearly it&#8217;s your strength. You know how to grab someone&#8217;s attention, and hold it. You know how to draw them in. </p>
<p>Why not choose an option where you play to your greatest strength? Can you cash in on your sense of presentation, on your construction of moving and still images?</p>
<p>(A second option: we don&#8217;t really know much about your math. It could be that you are looking to do some weird stuff in differential geometry or group theory&#8230; If you are good enough to do that stuff, more power to you)</p>
<p>On the admin side, not being able to adjust would be a pretty strong demerit. Homework, testing, and now pacing yourself. As far as curriculum, the materials, from a pedagogical view, that you&#8217;ve been sharing, have been good. But enough to make that a career choice? I don&#8217;t know. For me it&#8217;s the quality of the visual product that is always memorable on your blog.</p>
<p>And, of course, you could choose to try to adjust your teaching. Not everyone can, but can you expend the kind of energy on pacing yourself that you do on your slides? (how much energy can you devote to budgeting your energy.. I&#8217;m losing it)</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Jeff proffers the awfully cynical suggestion that you can’t maintain your purity, your connection to the classroom grinder, over the long haul, and I think maybe he’s right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that IS awfully cynical, isn&#039;t it?  Especially now that I&#039;m in day three of four days off (sometimes it&#039;s good to be a Yid).

I will say this, though--it seems like this thinking things through deal has helped you realized something:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This thing, my totally inability to modulate my off-contract hours, at first glance looks like good teaching. It results in a lot of good lessons, a lot of good seat-hours for my kids&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whatever you wind up doing in ed (and I think that the people who are calling for you to do workshops and hit the lecture trail over the summer are inadvertently adding to this) you need to through in more Dan Time.  Because you are damn good, if your blog is to be believed, but you&#039;re going to burn yourself out before long if you keep all this up.  Find what you love--and if it&#039;s staying in the classroom, I offer you a transcontinental high-five--and do it, carve out your space, but don&#039;t &lt;b&gt;become&lt;/b&gt; it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jeff proffers the awfully cynical suggestion that you can’t maintain your purity, your connection to the classroom grinder, over the long haul, and I think maybe he’s right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that IS awfully cynical, isn&#8217;t it?  Especially now that I&#8217;m in day three of four days off (sometimes it&#8217;s good to be a Yid).</p>
<p>I will say this, though&#8211;it seems like this thinking things through deal has helped you realized something:</p>
<blockquote><p>This thing, my totally inability to modulate my off-contract hours, at first glance looks like good teaching. It results in a lot of good lessons, a lot of good seat-hours for my kids</p></blockquote>
<p>Whatever you wind up doing in ed (and I think that the people who are calling for you to do workshops and hit the lecture trail over the summer are inadvertently adding to this) you need to through in more Dan Time.  Because you are damn good, if your blog is to be believed, but you&#8217;re going to burn yourself out before long if you keep all this up.  Find what you love&#8211;and if it&#8217;s staying in the classroom, I offer you a transcontinental high-five&#8211;and do it, carve out your space, but don&#8217;t <b>become</b> it.</p>
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		By: ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your right. That would be  a great reason to go into administration.  But with the current culture of NCLB it is difficult but hopefully the tide will turn as now upper income schools are starting to make some noise about this  flawed law.  So good luck and remember the job of an administrator is to make the job of teaching easier not harder.  It is to create an environment where teachers can do their jobs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right. That would be  a great reason to go into administration.  But with the current culture of NCLB it is difficult but hopefully the tide will turn as now upper income schools are starting to make some noise about this  flawed law.  So good luck and remember the job of an administrator is to make the job of teaching easier not harder.  It is to create an environment where teachers can do their jobs.</p>
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		By: Chris Lehmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lehmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ellen,

Some of us went into admin because we saw it as a chance to make a bigger difference. I miss teaching (and coaching) every day, but I was also lucky enough to work in a school for a decade with amazing administrators who created an environment where we could all teach. For me, after eight years of teaching, my mentors told me it was time to think about administration. I went to get my admin cert, and then I got the chance to start SLA. Now, I think my job is to try to create a culture where teaching and learning is deeply valued. I try to repay the gift that my admins gave to me. 

If Dan felt that he could create a culture that allowed teachers to make a powerful difference in kids&#039; lives, then that&#039;d be a great reason to go into administration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen,</p>
<p>Some of us went into admin because we saw it as a chance to make a bigger difference. I miss teaching (and coaching) every day, but I was also lucky enough to work in a school for a decade with amazing administrators who created an environment where we could all teach. For me, after eight years of teaching, my mentors told me it was time to think about administration. I went to get my admin cert, and then I got the chance to start SLA. Now, I think my job is to try to create a culture where teaching and learning is deeply valued. I try to repay the gift that my admins gave to me. </p>
<p>If Dan felt that he could create a culture that allowed teachers to make a powerful difference in kids&#8217; lives, then that&#8217;d be a great reason to go into administration.</p>
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		By: ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Age actually provides you with more insight and more wisdom to deal with students. They appreciate the work you put into teaching and they appreciate that you STAY as they see the rotating door of teachers constantly coming and going.  
They will notice all you do for them and let you know that. Actually we had one administrator at our school who taught one class as well as administrating.  Maybe you could do that as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Age actually provides you with more insight and more wisdom to deal with students. They appreciate the work you put into teaching and they appreciate that you STAY as they see the rotating door of teachers constantly coming and going.<br />
They will notice all you do for them and let you know that. Actually we had one administrator at our school who taught one class as well as administrating.  Maybe you could do that as well.</p>
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		By: ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wrong. We don&#039;t need any more administrators. We are hemorraging good teachers.  We have 8 administrators at our school at any one time and usually only 1 who is competent at any given time. The rest are just refugees from the classroom.  And yes, most go into it to either: 

1) Make more money which you can&#039;t blame them for due to the cost of living
In our district, administrators get about 8 weeks vacation and make anywhere from 80,000 to 120 thousand per year.  
2) To get away from the classroom because they were not successful teachers. Many of our administrators just had a couple of years in the classroom which is not enough to even know what good teaching is. 

Don&#039;t become a refugee from the classroom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. We don&#8217;t need any more administrators. We are hemorraging good teachers.  We have 8 administrators at our school at any one time and usually only 1 who is competent at any given time. The rest are just refugees from the classroom.  And yes, most go into it to either: </p>
<p>1) Make more money which you can&#8217;t blame them for due to the cost of living<br />
In our district, administrators get about 8 weeks vacation and make anywhere from 80,000 to 120 thousand per year.<br />
2) To get away from the classroom because they were not successful teachers. Many of our administrators just had a couple of years in the classroom which is not enough to even know what good teaching is. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t become a refugee from the classroom.</p>
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