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		By: Jen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I confess...if I&#039;m up doing this and that, here and there, every few minutes, there&#039;d better be someone damn good at putting it all together for me at the end (the beginning and middle wouldn&#039;t be bad either).  Otherwise I&#039;ve had an enjoyable time, but 20 minutes later, not much clue what I was supposed to have learned.

Kids have a ridiculously hard time figuring out what their experiments and hands-on activities really mean, even when they&#039;re motivated.  Heck, the future teachers in my class about teaching inquiry science?  They weren&#039;t always getting the big picture concepts.  But, they&#039;d had so much fun playing that they also didn&#039;t really listen to the teacher&#039;s little comments about what was really happening and why.

I&#039;m sorry, this sounds more bitter than it is!  But the truth is that kids that don&#039;t already know a lot about how to think and learn don&#039;t generally do a very good job of teaching themselves things they don&#039;t know or understand just from playing with things and talking with their friends.  Not to say they shouldn&#039;t do some of that, but guided, directly, by the firm hand of an interesting teacher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess&#8230;if I&#8217;m up doing this and that, here and there, every few minutes, there&#8217;d better be someone damn good at putting it all together for me at the end (the beginning and middle wouldn&#8217;t be bad either).  Otherwise I&#8217;ve had an enjoyable time, but 20 minutes later, not much clue what I was supposed to have learned.</p>
<p>Kids have a ridiculously hard time figuring out what their experiments and hands-on activities really mean, even when they&#8217;re motivated.  Heck, the future teachers in my class about teaching inquiry science?  They weren&#8217;t always getting the big picture concepts.  But, they&#8217;d had so much fun playing that they also didn&#8217;t really listen to the teacher&#8217;s little comments about what was really happening and why.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, this sounds more bitter than it is!  But the truth is that kids that don&#8217;t already know a lot about how to think and learn don&#8217;t generally do a very good job of teaching themselves things they don&#8217;t know or understand just from playing with things and talking with their friends.  Not to say they shouldn&#8217;t do some of that, but guided, directly, by the firm hand of an interesting teacher.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man ... a lecture on lecturing had better ... uh ... be a good lecture.  Right?  Standards are a little higher on that one, huh?  Man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man &#8230; a lecture on lecturing had better &#8230; uh &#8230; be a good lecture.  Right?  Standards are a little higher on that one, huh?  Man.</p>
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		By: Scott Elias		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent timing. I&#039;ve just been &quot;commissioned&quot; to do a lecture on lecturing (Why lecture? Why not lecture? Etc...) to our pre-service teachers in their field experience class.

I have 90 minutes. :-0

This&#039;ll be a great resource.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent timing. I&#8217;ve just been &#8220;commissioned&#8221; to do a lecture on lecturing (Why lecture? Why not lecture? Etc&#8230;) to our pre-service teachers in their field experience class.</p>
<p>I have 90 minutes. :-0</p>
<p>This&#8217;ll be a great resource.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2007/breathing-life-into-the-lecture-hall/#comment-23449</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems like we&#039;re in need of some new nomenclature here.

I don&#039;t know the teacher who spends an hour-long period talking at her students while they sit, listen, and take notes.  That stuff is deadly, true, and if that&#039;s what we mean by &quot;lecture,&quot; then I&#039;m against it.

This hybridized style, though – talk for a few minutes, have them try out some techniques for the next few, talk to a neighbor or journal about a question for the next few, and then back to instructor-talk – I just don&#039;t see the big deal.  High school, college, or otherwise.  Younger the age, the shorter stretches you&#039;re allowed to talk, but that&#039;s good &quot;lecturing&quot; by my eye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like we&#8217;re in need of some new nomenclature here.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the teacher who spends an hour-long period talking at her students while they sit, listen, and take notes.  That stuff is deadly, true, and if that&#8217;s what we mean by &#8220;lecture,&#8221; then I&#8217;m against it.</p>
<p>This hybridized style, though – talk for a few minutes, have them try out some techniques for the next few, talk to a neighbor or journal about a question for the next few, and then back to instructor-talk – I just don&#8217;t see the big deal.  High school, college, or otherwise.  Younger the age, the shorter stretches you&#8217;re allowed to talk, but that&#8217;s good &#8220;lecturing&#8221; by my eye.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wasserman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Lecturing is not good for children and other living things,&quot; said Redish, who spent 25 years in theoretical nuclear physics and now researches how students learn physics. &quot;They don&#039;t really learn very much in a lecture.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sounds like this guy&#039;s on to something--but he&#039;s doing a lot more than plain old lecturing, which I still say isn&#039;t going to work for all students.  I need to participate, to engage in discussion, to manipulate objects, to try stuff, or I just don&#039;t get it.  I can&#039;t handle sitting and listening.  At least this professor&#039;s got something a little more entertaining to bring to the room, and I salute him, but he&#039;s still not differentiating or whatever we call it these days.
And while I don&#039;t know that lecturing&#039;s an &quot;instructional evil,&quot; I definitely think it&#039;s not the most effective way to catch high school students.  College students who have paid a lot of money to be there in that specific class, maybe--they&#039;re at least primed to be in the class.  But high school sophomores who have to take English?  Pfffft.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Lecturing is not good for children and other living things,&#8221; said Redish, who spent 25 years in theoretical nuclear physics and now researches how students learn physics. &#8220;They don&#8217;t really learn very much in a lecture.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like this guy&#8217;s on to something&#8211;but he&#8217;s doing a lot more than plain old lecturing, which I still say isn&#8217;t going to work for all students.  I need to participate, to engage in discussion, to manipulate objects, to try stuff, or I just don&#8217;t get it.  I can&#8217;t handle sitting and listening.  At least this professor&#8217;s got something a little more entertaining to bring to the room, and I salute him, but he&#8217;s still not differentiating or whatever we call it these days.<br />
And while I don&#8217;t know that lecturing&#8217;s an &#8220;instructional evil,&#8221; I definitely think it&#8217;s not the most effective way to catch high school students.  College students who have paid a lot of money to be there in that specific class, maybe&#8211;they&#8217;re at least primed to be in the class.  But high school sophomores who have to take English?  Pfffft.</p>
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