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		By: Bill Fitzgerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Fitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While some of the best teachers I&#039;ve met have a dedication to the job that exists outside the concerns of the marketplace, far too frequently this is used as an excuse to underpay teachers -- the &quot;oh, teaching is so noble we wouldn&#039;t want to sully it with dirty money&quot; line.

However, pay for performance is equally misguided. To start, I&#039;d love to hear a description of &quot;performance&quot; that was even close to palatable to the various stakeholders within the educational community. Then, I&#039;d like to see a test to measure a teacher&#039;s performance (saying nothing of a student&#039;s learning) that eliminated socioeconomic or racial bias.

I have an idea: how about a living wage for teachers, such that they could afford to own a home in the communities where they teach?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While some of the best teachers I&#8217;ve met have a dedication to the job that exists outside the concerns of the marketplace, far too frequently this is used as an excuse to underpay teachers &#8212; the &#8220;oh, teaching is so noble we wouldn&#8217;t want to sully it with dirty money&#8221; line.</p>
<p>However, pay for performance is equally misguided. To start, I&#8217;d love to hear a description of &#8220;performance&#8221; that was even close to palatable to the various stakeholders within the educational community. Then, I&#8217;d like to see a test to measure a teacher&#8217;s performance (saying nothing of a student&#8217;s learning) that eliminated socioeconomic or racial bias.</p>
<p>I have an idea: how about a living wage for teachers, such that they could afford to own a home in the communities where they teach?</p>
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		By: Miss Profe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, my dad always said that it is one thing to be dedicated, but it doesn&#039;t mean that one needs to starve.

Teachers need to be paid a competitive wage, in the absence of merit pay.  It should not be an either/or - merit pay or a salary which allows a teacher to live with dignity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my dad always said that it is one thing to be dedicated, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that one needs to starve.</p>
<p>Teachers need to be paid a competitive wage, in the absence of merit pay.  It should not be an either/or &#8211; merit pay or a salary which allows a teacher to live with dignity.</p>
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		By: Chris Lehmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lehmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Give in to the Dark Side, Luke....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give in to the Dark Side, Luke&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Rich		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say that money may not be a major motivator for all teachers -- certainly for some it likely is, but for others it&#039;s not --but it can be a major filter.  That is, some superior teachers simply may not be able to provide for their needs based on an educator&#039;s salary.  I&#039;m 41, and happen to be single, and happen to have had a previous career that set me up to be able to shift financial gears substantially.  But if I had a family for whom I needed to provide, I just couldn&#039;t stay where I am, earning what I do.  Either I&#039;d have to work a second job, or I&#039;d have to revert back to engineering.  I&#039;m definitely NOT holding myself up as a paradigm for awesome teaching (!) but I think that same situation holds for others who are superior teachers.

Thus, money can wind up filtering out some great teachers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that money may not be a major motivator for all teachers &#8212; certainly for some it likely is, but for others it&#8217;s not &#8211;but it can be a major filter.  That is, some superior teachers simply may not be able to provide for their needs based on an educator&#8217;s salary.  I&#8217;m 41, and happen to be single, and happen to have had a previous career that set me up to be able to shift financial gears substantially.  But if I had a family for whom I needed to provide, I just couldn&#8217;t stay where I am, earning what I do.  Either I&#8217;d have to work a second job, or I&#8217;d have to revert back to engineering.  I&#8217;m definitely NOT holding myself up as a paradigm for awesome teaching (!) but I think that same situation holds for others who are superior teachers.</p>
<p>Thus, money can wind up filtering out some great teachers.</p>
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