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		By: Assessments: Synthesis Skills &#124; Mathy McMatherson		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Influence: This post by Dan Meyer has an excellent explanation of what I try to accomplish with my assessments in terms of collecting [...]]]></description>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Comprehensive Math Assessment Resource		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] could write a post describing the slashing &#038; burning process but the hardest work is done internally. You’ve [...]]]></description>
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		By: A Question About Standards Based Grading &#124; Irrational Cube		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Meyer addresses this issue to an extent here, but I&#8217;m not completely satisfied. Â Wiggins and McTighe talk about the idea of transfer in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Meyer addresses this issue to an extent here, but I&#8217;m not completely satisfied. Â Wiggins and McTighe talk about the idea of transfer in [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The house on the rock stood firm. &#124; I&#039;m just trying to catch up.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] rock stood&#160;firm.  Posted on July 20, 2010 by mbennage   This post is my thoughts on a post by Dan Meyer (and its comments — especially 3, 9, and 13) because I think it directly relates to my first post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] rock stood&nbsp;firm.  Posted on July 20, 2010 by mbennage   This post is my thoughts on a post by Dan Meyer (and its comments — especially 3, 9, and 13) because I think it directly relates to my first post [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: ClintC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In structuring assessment, I try to balance procedural exercises with richer problems that attempt to assess how well students are able to decide what tools to use.  I believe both types of skills are important in determining success at the next level.

This year in my PreCalculus class, I have many students who are excellent at solving exercises such as &quot;find the roots of the following quadratic trinomial,&quot; where students are asked to apply various skills in isolation.  (My quizzes, which are worth 25% of the course grade are made up of mostly these skill-based questions)  However, those same students genuinely struggle with word/story problems where students must decide what information is relevant and decide which skills to apply.  (Much like the excellent situations and problems you give us to consider in your blog)  While I try as much as possible to include these in classwork, I also try to show that these problems and the problem-solving and questioning skills developed by working on these problems are important and worth measuring by including them on more formal assessments.

I try to make it so that a student earning an &quot;A&quot; in my class has demonstrated mastery of basic skills and has demonstrated the ability to know in what context those skills should be applied.  Many times students ask why bother taking advanced math, when they might never factor a polynomial or solve a quadratic equation ever outside of math class.  For many students, the critical-thinking skills and communication skills they build by figuring out how to apply the procedures they&#039;ve learned is the main skill that they&#039;ll draw on when it comes time to communicate detailed, techincal information in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In structuring assessment, I try to balance procedural exercises with richer problems that attempt to assess how well students are able to decide what tools to use.  I believe both types of skills are important in determining success at the next level.</p>
<p>This year in my PreCalculus class, I have many students who are excellent at solving exercises such as &#8220;find the roots of the following quadratic trinomial,&#8221; where students are asked to apply various skills in isolation.  (My quizzes, which are worth 25% of the course grade are made up of mostly these skill-based questions)  However, those same students genuinely struggle with word/story problems where students must decide what information is relevant and decide which skills to apply.  (Much like the excellent situations and problems you give us to consider in your blog)  While I try as much as possible to include these in classwork, I also try to show that these problems and the problem-solving and questioning skills developed by working on these problems are important and worth measuring by including them on more formal assessments.</p>
<p>I try to make it so that a student earning an &#8220;A&#8221; in my class has demonstrated mastery of basic skills and has demonstrated the ability to know in what context those skills should be applied.  Many times students ask why bother taking advanced math, when they might never factor a polynomial or solve a quadratic equation ever outside of math class.  For many students, the critical-thinking skills and communication skills they build by figuring out how to apply the procedures they&#8217;ve learned is the main skill that they&#8217;ll draw on when it comes time to communicate detailed, techincal information in the future.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2007/how-to-assess/#comment-223222</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A primary function of my assessments is to sort students who &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; advance to harder study from those who &lt;em&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt;. If a student is failing my class then there is a greater than 95% chance she will fail the next one. If a student is passing my class then there is a greater than 95% chance she is prepared for the next one.

For that reason, my assessments are heavily procedural. I litter my curriculum with applications, extensions, project-based work, sure, but I won&#039;t force a student who can find the roots of a quadratic trinomial but who couldn&#039;t do that in the context of a poster project on projectile motion to repeat Algebra 1.

Yours isn&#039;t an uncommon concern with this kind of assessment. If it doesn&#039;t work for you, there&#039;s nothing cooler than splitting from your mentors and saying, &quot;This is how &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; would do it.&quot; Set up a blog, do your own thing, and tell us about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A primary function of my assessments is to sort students who <em>should</em> advance to harder study from those who <em>shouldn&#8217;t</em>. If a student is failing my class then there is a greater than 95% chance she will fail the next one. If a student is passing my class then there is a greater than 95% chance she is prepared for the next one.</p>
<p>For that reason, my assessments are heavily procedural. I litter my curriculum with applications, extensions, project-based work, sure, but I won&#8217;t force a student who can find the roots of a quadratic trinomial but who couldn&#8217;t do that in the context of a poster project on projectile motion to repeat Algebra 1.</p>
<p>Yours isn&#8217;t an uncommon concern with this kind of assessment. If it doesn&#8217;t work for you, there&#8217;s nothing cooler than splitting from your mentors and saying, &#8220;This is how <em>I</em> would do it.&#8221; Set up a blog, do your own thing, and tell us about it.</p>
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		By: Touzel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, your blog has helped my teaching more in the last 3 years than all professional-development done at my schools combined, however, I disagree with the procedural nature of assessment items like these. To be honest, the cone example you gave seems more like an &quot;exercise&quot; than a &quot;problem&quot;.

It seems like you value--above all else--the ability to look at an assessment score and know exactly what that number means. I like that and would like to find a way to do that. In doing so, however, it seems that you break everything down into such compartmentalized, small individual skills, that students are never assessed on their ability to solve rich, layered, challenging mathematical problems that require critical-thinking skills and/or require them to communicate their thinking. 

Perhaps I&#039;m assuming too much. Perhaps you have changed in the 2 years since you initially posted this entry. Are you assessment items still this procedural? Also, do you give Problems of the Week or portfolios or projects or any alternate ways of measuring what kids know?

[Thanks for your blogging. As I said earlier, reading it (and the comments) really improves my teaching abilities.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, your blog has helped my teaching more in the last 3 years than all professional-development done at my schools combined, however, I disagree with the procedural nature of assessment items like these. To be honest, the cone example you gave seems more like an &#8220;exercise&#8221; than a &#8220;problem&#8221;.</p>
<p>It seems like you value&#8211;above all else&#8211;the ability to look at an assessment score and know exactly what that number means. I like that and would like to find a way to do that. In doing so, however, it seems that you break everything down into such compartmentalized, small individual skills, that students are never assessed on their ability to solve rich, layered, challenging mathematical problems that require critical-thinking skills and/or require them to communicate their thinking. </p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m assuming too much. Perhaps you have changed in the 2 years since you initially posted this entry. Are you assessment items still this procedural? Also, do you give Problems of the Week or portfolios or projects or any alternate ways of measuring what kids know?</p>
<p>[Thanks for your blogging. As I said earlier, reading it (and the comments) really improves my teaching abilities.]</p>
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		By: Can&#8217;t Separate: Thoughts On Teaching		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] all stems from Dan&#8217;s ideas about math assessment, by the [...]]]></description>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Dan,

I&#039;m Belgian and although I already know my maths but I&#039;m still learning how to teacht it properly. In Belgium, teacher are thought to identify and classify their goals before starting to design lessons or evaluation. Your evaluation scheme fits this perfectly and I&#039;m going to give it a chance in my own classroom. It&#039;ll probably need some adjusting and since some of my goals are &#039;integration&#039; as steve called it (I teach math to math-majors in High school) I&#039;ll have to put in some goals in that direction as well.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Belgian and although I already know my maths but I&#8217;m still learning how to teacht it properly. In Belgium, teacher are thought to identify and classify their goals before starting to design lessons or evaluation. Your evaluation scheme fits this perfectly and I&#8217;m going to give it a chance in my own classroom. It&#8217;ll probably need some adjusting and since some of my goals are &#8216;integration&#8217; as steve called it (I teach math to math-majors in High school) I&#8217;ll have to put in some goals in that direction as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How To Present Well: Find the Through-Line		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] love affair with [topic x]. In my case, this last year I fell deeply, romantically, in love with an assessment method that empowers kids instead of sucking them dry. I also became infatuated with the power of little [...]]]></description>
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