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		By: Carolyn Foote		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

The schedule and demands on teaching certainly make the job difficult.  You want to do your best because these kids go through your classroom once, and they are people, and you want it to make a difference for them, so I understand what you feel is at stake here.

And that&#039;s clearly reflected in your great enthusiasm when a lesson you redesigned went well, that great rush that you feel when teaching works.

My other observation is that, from reading your blog, my guess is that if you ended up in &quot;design&quot; or &quot;doctoral program&quot; or &quot;administration&quot; that you would still carry these qualities of working as hard as possible to do the best for your clients, be they students, or staff, or customers, because that is where the rush comes from....where the moment clicks, and it just &quot;works.&quot;    And it often takes intensity and commitment to get there.

I do agree that teachers are almost set up for failure--asked to sacrifice, do the impossible, do it well, and given no planning time to do it.   So as I mentioned before, look for the situation that suits you.

There are teaching situations out there where you have fewer classes, more collaboration, and more time, that you can seek out, if that helps you be the teacher you want to be.

Consider the things that you like the most--the students?  the planning?  the connection?  the designing?  the teaching?
the sharing?  and then go towards those things?

And consider how to step away once in awhile for your own refreshment.   Maybe you should even just step away from this problem for a bit, and let your thoughts gel.

It&#039;s amazing how that reflective time can help the answer arrive.

Good luck!  Carolyn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>The schedule and demands on teaching certainly make the job difficult.  You want to do your best because these kids go through your classroom once, and they are people, and you want it to make a difference for them, so I understand what you feel is at stake here.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s clearly reflected in your great enthusiasm when a lesson you redesigned went well, that great rush that you feel when teaching works.</p>
<p>My other observation is that, from reading your blog, my guess is that if you ended up in &#8220;design&#8221; or &#8220;doctoral program&#8221; or &#8220;administration&#8221; that you would still carry these qualities of working as hard as possible to do the best for your clients, be they students, or staff, or customers, because that is where the rush comes from&#8230;.where the moment clicks, and it just &#8220;works.&#8221;    And it often takes intensity and commitment to get there.</p>
<p>I do agree that teachers are almost set up for failure&#8211;asked to sacrifice, do the impossible, do it well, and given no planning time to do it.   So as I mentioned before, look for the situation that suits you.</p>
<p>There are teaching situations out there where you have fewer classes, more collaboration, and more time, that you can seek out, if that helps you be the teacher you want to be.</p>
<p>Consider the things that you like the most&#8211;the students?  the planning?  the connection?  the designing?  the teaching?<br />
the sharing?  and then go towards those things?</p>
<p>And consider how to step away once in awhile for your own refreshment.   Maybe you should even just step away from this problem for a bit, and let your thoughts gel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how that reflective time can help the answer arrive.</p>
<p>Good luck!  Carolyn</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to be that way as well. I&#039;m in my 10th year of teaching and I no longer work those sorts of hours. But, I have to admit, it took having kids to change things for me.

Sometimes I wish I could spend that kind of time on my planning and lessons and at other times I&#039;m grateful for the fact that I have to walk away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be that way as well. I&#8217;m in my 10th year of teaching and I no longer work those sorts of hours. But, I have to admit, it took having kids to change things for me.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wish I could spend that kind of time on my planning and lessons and at other times I&#8217;m grateful for the fact that I have to walk away.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lame.  This is why tv/film writers submit rough cuts to the MPAA/S&amp;P boards with several extremely easy-to-spot gratuitously-violent-or-sexual scenes.

The MPAA/S&amp;P feel like they&#039;ve done their jobs while the &lt;em&gt;original&lt;/em&gt; vision remains intact.  Such a coy game.

Good food for thought, but a little less applicable in my case.  I imagine that your advisor / MPAA / S&amp;P would be disinclined to recommend alterations he / it / it had to put in the hours effecting them like you and I do.

This does speak to an enduring hope of mine, though, that as I get better at Algebra 1 the ideas I have won&#039;t be &lt;em&gt;drastically&lt;/em&gt; different and as such, easier to ignore (I&#039;m not gonna put in two hours on a lesson of equal but different quality) or easier to implement.

I&#039;m getting a taste of that in Geometry which, arguably, I suck less at than with Algebra 1.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lame.  This is why tv/film writers submit rough cuts to the MPAA/S&#038;P boards with several extremely easy-to-spot gratuitously-violent-or-sexual scenes.</p>
<p>The MPAA/S&#038;P feel like they&#8217;ve done their jobs while the <em>original</em> vision remains intact.  Such a coy game.</p>
<p>Good food for thought, but a little less applicable in my case.  I imagine that your advisor / MPAA / S&#038;P would be disinclined to recommend alterations he / it / it had to put in the hours effecting them like you and I do.</p>
<p>This does speak to an enduring hope of mine, though, that as I get better at Algebra 1 the ideas I have won&#8217;t be <em>drastically</em> different and as such, easier to ignore (I&#8217;m not gonna put in two hours on a lesson of equal but different quality) or easier to implement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting a taste of that in Geometry which, arguably, I suck less at than with Algebra 1.</p>
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		By: Steven Peters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just had a quick insight into the compulsion to keep changing finished lessons and trying to make things perfect.  It&#039;s not complimentary to the practice, though it may not be applicable.

I&#039;m a grad student writing technical papers for publication.  I write a draft and give it to my advisor who makes changes to the paper in very hard to read handwriting.  I get the paper back and make the changes.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.  At some point, the submission deadline breaks the cycle.

During this process, it is not uncommon to change something in an early draft at the advisor&#039;s urging, then change it back in a later draft.  Some students see this as the advisor&#039;s need to feel like they caught something, so they put in a few gimme&#039;s, things that will jump out to the advisor to correct in the hope that it will cut down on oscillatory revisions.

I&#039;ve experienced this phenomenon while revising papers with other people and also by myself.  I can become stuck on a sentence or paragraph and change it back an forth on every revision without improving the quality.  I&#039;ve learned to catch myself in these loops and ask myself, &quot;How much does this word/sentence/paragraph contribute to the paper?&quot;  If it&#039;s not critical I just leave it and move on.

I don&#039;t mean to imply that your perfectionism is misdirected toward insignificant details; it may well be that you improved your scaffolding by 80% with that idea by changing it.  Not all revisions are pointless.  I just wanted to mention that I&#039;ve witnessed myself and others caught spending lots of time on details whose importance is hard to justify.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a quick insight into the compulsion to keep changing finished lessons and trying to make things perfect.  It&#8217;s not complimentary to the practice, though it may not be applicable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a grad student writing technical papers for publication.  I write a draft and give it to my advisor who makes changes to the paper in very hard to read handwriting.  I get the paper back and make the changes.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.  At some point, the submission deadline breaks the cycle.</p>
<p>During this process, it is not uncommon to change something in an early draft at the advisor&#8217;s urging, then change it back in a later draft.  Some students see this as the advisor&#8217;s need to feel like they caught something, so they put in a few gimme&#8217;s, things that will jump out to the advisor to correct in the hope that it will cut down on oscillatory revisions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced this phenomenon while revising papers with other people and also by myself.  I can become stuck on a sentence or paragraph and change it back an forth on every revision without improving the quality.  I&#8217;ve learned to catch myself in these loops and ask myself, &#8220;How much does this word/sentence/paragraph contribute to the paper?&#8221;  If it&#8217;s not critical I just leave it and move on.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to imply that your perfectionism is misdirected toward insignificant details; it may well be that you improved your scaffolding by 80% with that idea by changing it.  Not all revisions are pointless.  I just wanted to mention that I&#8217;ve witnessed myself and others caught spending lots of time on details whose importance is hard to justify.</p>
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