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		By: Jeff Wasserman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wasserman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And Dan, you know I&#039;m just trying to be constructive--I dig what you do, but I often read your stuff after getting everything set up and before the crew comes into the room, so I&#039;m not always in my most receptive mindset.  Anyway:

&lt;blockquote&gt;My point was that these people – the school boards – are largely oblivious to tools like Moodle and to projections like those presented in DYK2. The kind of scorn heaped on their heads from this group we commonly call “School 2.0,” if it should be a part of the conversation at all, belongs at the end of the line, not wherever it’s currently inserted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oddly enough, our superintendent&#039;s son actually works for Moodle (I think--it&#039;s not Google, but it&#039;s something with that sound combination) AND I was one of several lucky unblemished sacrificial heifers (there were seven measures of pure meal, and some olive oil and incense) chosen to present, at our end-of-the-year staff development ritual, the DYK thing.  And yet our tech department still won&#039;t punch a hole in the filter so my students can use &lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cburell/~3/165726426/open-invitation-to-join-conversation-at.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clay&#039;s  AP Lit Ning&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Dan, you know I&#8217;m just trying to be constructive&#8211;I dig what you do, but I often read your stuff after getting everything set up and before the crew comes into the room, so I&#8217;m not always in my most receptive mindset.  Anyway:</p>
<blockquote><p>My point was that these people – the school boards – are largely oblivious to tools like Moodle and to projections like those presented in DYK2. The kind of scorn heaped on their heads from this group we commonly call “School 2.0,” if it should be a part of the conversation at all, belongs at the end of the line, not wherever it’s currently inserted.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oddly enough, our superintendent&#8217;s son actually works for Moodle (I think&#8211;it&#8217;s not Google, but it&#8217;s something with that sound combination) AND I was one of several lucky unblemished sacrificial heifers (there were seven measures of pure meal, and some olive oil and incense) chosen to present, at our end-of-the-year staff development ritual, the DYK thing.  And yet our tech department still won&#8217;t punch a hole in the filter so my students can use <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cburell/~3/165726426/open-invitation-to-join-conversation-at.html" rel="nofollow">Clay&#8217;s  AP Lit Ning</a>.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Otherwise, people could just read your slides.&quot;

Which would actually be &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; than what seems typical, asking them to read your slides while you paraphrase them.  Yeegh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Otherwise, people could just read your slides.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which would actually be <em>better</em> than what seems typical, asking them to read your slides while you paraphrase them.  Yeegh.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When my 6-8th grade students create slides, they get taught to put a title and image on the slide.  They create notes in the note section and print them out to read or for backup if they choose to memorize what they are going to say.  I&#039;ve been telling them for years exactly what you said.  The slide show is to support what you are saying.  Otherwise, people could just read your slides.  Nice choice in lieu of written statistics about couples meeting online.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my 6-8th grade students create slides, they get taught to put a title and image on the slide.  They create notes in the note section and print them out to read or for backup if they choose to memorize what they are going to say.  I&#8217;ve been telling them for years exactly what you said.  The slide show is to support what you are saying.  Otherwise, people could just read your slides.  Nice choice in lieu of written statistics about couples meeting online.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Jeff&lt;/strong&gt;, maybe the difference between My Approach and Theirs isn&#039;t as strong as I aimed for.  Maybe &quot;Theirs&quot; does constitute a straw man.

I&#039;m inclined to disagree, though, on the evidence of nearly any post complaining about a) a school&#039;s reluctance to drop Internet filtering, b) a school&#039;s reluctance to implement 21st-century technology, which, with scant exception, paint these schools as lumbering, stupid creatures and their boards as intractable foes.

My point was that these people – the school boards – are largely &lt;em&gt;oblivious&lt;/em&gt; to tools like Moodle and to projections like those presented in DYK2.  The kind of scorn heaped on their heads from this group we commonly call &quot;School 2.0,&quot; if it should be a part of the conversation at all, belongs at the &lt;em&gt;end&lt;/em&gt; of the line, not wherever it&#039;s currently inserted.

On the off chance you&#039;re right, though, that these bloggers exist only in my head and &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; all over my reader, all over Ning, I&#039;ve resolved to cut back the &quot;shin-kicking&quot; (as our erstwhile blogging colleague Christian Long put the same behavior you&#039;re talking about) significantly.

&lt;strong&gt;Liza&lt;/strong&gt;, it&#039;s outlying folks like yourself who force me to push past my shtick and actually &lt;em&gt;present&lt;/em&gt;.  Thanks?

&lt;strong&gt;Diana&lt;/strong&gt;, nice work.  That&#039;s a solid return-on-investment there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jeff</strong>, maybe the difference between My Approach and Theirs isn&#8217;t as strong as I aimed for.  Maybe &#8220;Theirs&#8221; does constitute a straw man.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m inclined to disagree, though, on the evidence of nearly any post complaining about a) a school&#8217;s reluctance to drop Internet filtering, b) a school&#8217;s reluctance to implement 21st-century technology, which, with scant exception, paint these schools as lumbering, stupid creatures and their boards as intractable foes.</p>
<p>My point was that these people – the school boards – are largely <em>oblivious</em> to tools like Moodle and to projections like those presented in DYK2.  The kind of scorn heaped on their heads from this group we commonly call &#8220;School 2.0,&#8221; if it should be a part of the conversation at all, belongs at the <em>end</em> of the line, not wherever it&#8217;s currently inserted.</p>
<p>On the off chance you&#8217;re right, though, that these bloggers exist only in my head and <em>not</em> all over my reader, all over Ning, I&#8217;ve resolved to cut back the &#8220;shin-kicking&#8221; (as our erstwhile blogging colleague Christian Long put the same behavior you&#8217;re talking about) significantly.</p>
<p><strong>Liza</strong>, it&#8217;s outlying folks like yourself who force me to push past my shtick and actually <em>present</em>.  Thanks?</p>
<p><strong>Diana</strong>, nice work.  That&#8217;s a solid return-on-investment there.</p>
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		By: TMAO		</title>
		<link>/2007/presenting-to-the-school-board/#comment-24527</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was once part of a professional development &quot;experience&quot; designed to bolster leadership abilities and team unity, where I was separated from my time and given a task to complete with three members of other teams. These women, who wore sweatshirts with bead designs (2), puppy dogs (1), and a turkey (1) spent our task-completion time asking me the following questions:

-How old are you?
-Is your mother proud?
-Why can&#039;t my son be more like you?
-How old are you again?
-Will you talk to my son?

After providing the information (23, sometimes, it&#039;s probably for the best anyway, 23, no way), they launched into strange exclamations of weirdness:

-Just so young!
-Kids must love you!
-Wow!

We never did the task.

At that point, I&#039;d been a teacher for five months; I went home and started looking at potential grad schools.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once part of a professional development &#8220;experience&#8221; designed to bolster leadership abilities and team unity, where I was separated from my time and given a task to complete with three members of other teams. These women, who wore sweatshirts with bead designs (2), puppy dogs (1), and a turkey (1) spent our task-completion time asking me the following questions:</p>
<p>-How old are you?<br />
-Is your mother proud?<br />
-Why can&#8217;t my son be more like you?<br />
-How old are you again?<br />
-Will you talk to my son?</p>
<p>After providing the information (23, sometimes, it&#8217;s probably for the best anyway, 23, no way), they launched into strange exclamations of weirdness:</p>
<p>-Just so young!<br />
-Kids must love you!<br />
-Wow!</p>
<p>We never did the task.</p>
<p>At that point, I&#8217;d been a teacher for five months; I went home and started looking at potential grad schools.</p>
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		By: Diana		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I, too, presented to the school board recently.  I was the &#039;cheerleader&#039; for an intiative to bring in 70x the current bandwidth to wach school in the district.  After the admin detailed cost and logistics, I was the finale.  I hadn&#039;t rehearsed or practiced anything but it really took seconds to get them sold on why we need more bandwidth.  There was a wow factor for some of the applications of the tools.  But my favorite moment was when I said, &quot;When we only provide a network of limited bandwidth, the administrative functions of the job trump the instructional ones.  If we don&#039;t get more bandwidth, this (pointing to GoogleEarth) is the type of tool that we are giving up.&quot;   I could have really just said that and I think it would have been enough.  Speaking to the board, I think, is one of the most powerful ways to push innovation... we all work for the board... principals and teachers alike.  We are getting the fiber optic run to the building soon... 10 minutes of my time=7000% increase in bandwidth.  Now those are some numbers I like!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, presented to the school board recently.  I was the &#8216;cheerleader&#8217; for an intiative to bring in 70x the current bandwidth to wach school in the district.  After the admin detailed cost and logistics, I was the finale.  I hadn&#8217;t rehearsed or practiced anything but it really took seconds to get them sold on why we need more bandwidth.  There was a wow factor for some of the applications of the tools.  But my favorite moment was when I said, &#8220;When we only provide a network of limited bandwidth, the administrative functions of the job trump the instructional ones.  If we don&#8217;t get more bandwidth, this (pointing to GoogleEarth) is the type of tool that we are giving up.&#8221;   I could have really just said that and I think it would have been enough.  Speaking to the board, I think, is one of the most powerful ways to push innovation&#8230; we all work for the board&#8230; principals and teachers alike.  We are getting the fiber optic run to the building soon&#8230; 10 minutes of my time=7000% increase in bandwidth.  Now those are some numbers I like!</p>
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		By: Liza Lee Miller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great job, Dan and thank you for offering the District a view of the options out there for learning (capital L or no capital l).  One quibble, I&#039;m 43, I&#039;ve seen you at District events, and I don&#039;t feel you are my adopted son.  My son is 7.  You do, in fact, look older than 7.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job, Dan and thank you for offering the District a view of the options out there for learning (capital L or no capital l).  One quibble, I&#8217;m 43, I&#8217;ve seen you at District events, and I don&#8217;t feel you are my adopted son.  My son is 7.  You do, in fact, look older than 7.  :)</p>
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		By: Jeff Wasserman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wasserman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;At this point in the presentation, I cringed inwardly, recalling how many bloggers have seized that same juxtaposition for ironic, self-congratulatory purposes. Realizing I was dealing with an audience that was largely oblivious to alternative tools and settings for education, I settled on a more modest approach.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right on.  Lord knows we hate self-congratulatory anything.  Especially when we&#039;re making comparisons between the old way and the new way.  Let&#039;s avoid that!

&lt;blockquote&gt;I said I was disappointed in myself, that as much as I enjoyed my job, I felt like an agent of a system I knew was hurting kids. I told them that in that picture the students have been trained to believe that math learning happens for one hour daily, between two bells, and that learning with a capital-L happens only during school hours.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, about that.

Dan, you&#039;re absolutely right, the way I see it, but the more you try to distance/alienate yourself from the strawman you&#039;ve set up (the self-congratulatory School 2.0 types), the more obvious it is that you&#039;re (gasp; minor chord) ONE OF THEM.  If the difference between you and them is that you blatantly apologize and they present themselves as saviours, fine, but that&#039;s not enough of a difference.  It&#039;s just a matter of tone, not substance.

This presentation is awesome, though, and yet another example of your inspiring graphic work, and I&#039;ve bookmarked the entry for reference for when, inevitably, I&#039;ll have to take on a similar task.  Thanks for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At this point in the presentation, I cringed inwardly, recalling how many bloggers have seized that same juxtaposition for ironic, self-congratulatory purposes. Realizing I was dealing with an audience that was largely oblivious to alternative tools and settings for education, I settled on a more modest approach.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right on.  Lord knows we hate self-congratulatory anything.  Especially when we&#8217;re making comparisons between the old way and the new way.  Let&#8217;s avoid that!</p>
<blockquote><p>I said I was disappointed in myself, that as much as I enjoyed my job, I felt like an agent of a system I knew was hurting kids. I told them that in that picture the students have been trained to believe that math learning happens for one hour daily, between two bells, and that learning with a capital-L happens only during school hours.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, about that.</p>
<p>Dan, you&#8217;re absolutely right, the way I see it, but the more you try to distance/alienate yourself from the strawman you&#8217;ve set up (the self-congratulatory School 2.0 types), the more obvious it is that you&#8217;re (gasp; minor chord) ONE OF THEM.  If the difference between you and them is that you blatantly apologize and they present themselves as saviours, fine, but that&#8217;s not enough of a difference.  It&#8217;s just a matter of tone, not substance.</p>
<p>This presentation is awesome, though, and yet another example of your inspiring graphic work, and I&#8217;ve bookmarked the entry for reference for when, inevitably, I&#8217;ll have to take on a similar task.  Thanks for it.</p>
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		By: Scott McLeod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, this is neat. Thanks for sharing with us!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, this is neat. Thanks for sharing with us!</p>
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