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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Crud.  I could&#039;ve sworn I updated this somewhere.  (Ah, &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=601&quot;&gt;found it&lt;/a&gt;.)

Okay, so: wildly successful by some measures, not so much by others.  The office ladies are working hard on the paperwork so we don&#039;t have to.

From other measures this is great, though.  Tardies are down.  When kids come in late, I give &#039;em a friendly, &quot;Hey, what&#039;s up?&quot; while they set their passport down.  It&#039;s all business and all personal at the same time.  &lt;em&gt;Love&lt;/em&gt; that.

You ask good questions, though.  Easy ones first.

Kids can&#039;t photocopy the passports &#039;cause they have an embossed stamp at the bottom.

If a kid doesn&#039;t have the passport but it isn&#039;t lost, the penalty is supposed to be the same.  In practice I think the office staff looks on the computer and just resigns the existing tardies.

If a kid fills up her hall passes, she goes to the next level but doesn&#039;t incur the consequences of filling it up on tardies (lunch-time detentions, phone call home, etc.).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crud.  I could&#8217;ve sworn I updated this somewhere.  (Ah, <a href="/?p=601">found it</a>.)</p>
<p>Okay, so: wildly successful by some measures, not so much by others.  The office ladies are working hard on the paperwork so we don&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>From other measures this is great, though.  Tardies are down.  When kids come in late, I give &#8217;em a friendly, &#8220;Hey, what&#8217;s up?&#8221; while they set their passport down.  It&#8217;s all business and all personal at the same time.  <em>Love</em> that.</p>
<p>You ask good questions, though.  Easy ones first.</p>
<p>Kids can&#8217;t photocopy the passports &#8217;cause they have an embossed stamp at the bottom.</p>
<p>If a kid doesn&#8217;t have the passport but it isn&#8217;t lost, the penalty is supposed to be the same.  In practice I think the office staff looks on the computer and just resigns the existing tardies.</p>
<p>If a kid fills up her hall passes, she goes to the next level but doesn&#8217;t incur the consequences of filling it up on tardies (lunch-time detentions, phone call home, etc.).</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

I am curious how the tardy policy is working also. 

Just to make sure, if a student is tardy 8 times they move up to the next level? even if they have hall passes remaining? what about vice-versa?

Also have you run into kids photocopying the passes?

what do you do if a kids doesn&#039;t have the pass but says it is not lost?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I am curious how the tardy policy is working also. </p>
<p>Just to make sure, if a student is tardy 8 times they move up to the next level? even if they have hall passes remaining? what about vice-versa?</p>
<p>Also have you run into kids photocopying the passes?</p>
<p>what do you do if a kids doesn&#8217;t have the pass but says it is not lost?</p>
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		By: Mr. K.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it may be a cultural issue. 

How well do &quot;rules&quot; and &quot;independent thinkers&quot; play together?

There is some tension there, and depending on many (cultural?) factors, it could be possible to take different views.

My own suspicion is that, if you weren&#039;t exposed to a large tardy problem (as in a significant percentage of the class showing up well after a lesson had started) that the above approach might seem overkill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it may be a cultural issue. </p>
<p>How well do &#8220;rules&#8221; and &#8220;independent thinkers&#8221; play together?</p>
<p>There is some tension there, and depending on many (cultural?) factors, it could be possible to take different views.</p>
<p>My own suspicion is that, if you weren&#8217;t exposed to a large tardy problem (as in a significant percentage of the class showing up well after a lesson had started) that the above approach might seem overkill.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I don&#039;t understand.

I work in a school where student attendance determines whether its employees are paid or unpaid.

I teach in a class where the students who spend more minutes in class learn more than those who show up twenty minutes late or use a bathroom pass to wander the halls.

What is your solution?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>I work in a school where student attendance determines whether its employees are paid or unpaid.</p>
<p>I teach in a class where the students who spend more minutes in class learn more than those who show up twenty minutes late or use a bathroom pass to wander the halls.</p>
<p>What is your solution?</p>
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		By: Marco Polo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Polo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=349#comment-17009&quot;&gt;Peter Rock on this one.&lt;/a&gt;  Time was, it was the nasty chermenz who stopped people in the street and demanded &quot;Vere ah your peppers?&quot; The next twit who goes on about Amerka &quot;land of the free&quot; will get raucous laughter from me.  Colours? Levels? Passport? Tracking? If I wanted to get people from a young age accustomed to showing their id any time any &quot;authority figure&quot; demands it, accustomed to thinking in terms of coloured levels of categories for just about everything, accustomed to having everything about themselves tracked and logged, this is how I would do it.  The idea that this policy could only be demeaning and insulting if poorly implemented has me rofl! If no-one protests at the very IDEA of it, then you will indeed have robot ants for students. (Missions accomplished, some cynics might say). I didn&#039;t go to school in the States so I had to ask a colleague who did what the hell a &quot;hall pass&quot; is? We never had them in my school in my day. Oh, but I forgot, that&#039;s not a valid argument, is it? ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with <a href="/?p=349#comment-17009">Peter Rock on this one.</a>  Time was, it was the nasty chermenz who stopped people in the street and demanded &#8220;Vere ah your peppers?&#8221; The next twit who goes on about Amerka &#8220;land of the free&#8221; will get raucous laughter from me.  Colours? Levels? Passport? Tracking? If I wanted to get people from a young age accustomed to showing their id any time any &#8220;authority figure&#8221; demands it, accustomed to thinking in terms of coloured levels of categories for just about everything, accustomed to having everything about themselves tracked and logged, this is how I would do it.  The idea that this policy could only be demeaning and insulting if poorly implemented has me rofl! If no-one protests at the very IDEA of it, then you will indeed have robot ants for students. (Missions accomplished, some cynics might say). I didn&#8217;t go to school in the States so I had to ask a colleague who did what the hell a &#8220;hall pass&#8221; is? We never had them in my school in my day. Oh, but I forgot, that&#8217;s not a valid argument, is it? ;-)</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tardy policy is great.  In my class we&#039;ve kept things cool and respectful.

&quot;What&#039;s up, Josh?  I need your passport on the side desk.&quot;  *teacher continues going about his business as if nothing happened*

The Moodle thing has had a slow uptake.  Nine students out of 35 turned in the first couple online assignments.  I&#039;ve told them repeatedly &lt;em&gt;this is happening every week&lt;/em&gt; and I think it&#039;s starting to sink in. I know it&#039;s starting to affect their bottom line grade.

Those who have been on it, been using it, report to enjoying it, which is great.  I try to give &#039;em a week&#039;s lead time so that kids with patchy &#039;net access can use library computers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tardy policy is great.  In my class we&#8217;ve kept things cool and respectful.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s up, Josh?  I need your passport on the side desk.&#8221;  *teacher continues going about his business as if nothing happened*</p>
<p>The Moodle thing has had a slow uptake.  Nine students out of 35 turned in the first couple online assignments.  I&#8217;ve told them repeatedly <em>this is happening every week</em> and I think it&#8217;s starting to sink in. I know it&#8217;s starting to affect their bottom line grade.</p>
<p>Those who have been on it, been using it, report to enjoying it, which is great.  I try to give &#8217;em a week&#8217;s lead time so that kids with patchy &#8216;net access can use library computers.</p>
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		By: Jackie		</title>
		<link>/2007/prologue/#comment-22573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How&#039;s the new tardy policy working out?   Also wondering about the use of Moodle in the math classes, so how&#039;s that going?  What are you doing about the kids that don&#039;t have internet access at home?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s the new tardy policy working out?   Also wondering about the use of Moodle in the math classes, so how&#8217;s that going?  What are you doing about the kids that don&#8217;t have internet access at home?</p>
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		By: Coach Brown		</title>
		<link>/2007/prologue/#comment-17287</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coach Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Second new principal since you left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second new principal since you left.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;ll keep you up on this one.  I&#039;m interested too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll keep you up on this one.  I&#8217;m interested too.</p>
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		By: Scott Elias		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Elias]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One more follow-up on that... I guess the reason I&#039;m curious about who&#039;s keeping track of what color the student is on is because at first I thought, &quot;My goodness! They&#039;ve finally figured out a system of tracking tardies where the record-keeping responsibility rests solely with the student!&quot; But that just doesn&#039;t seem possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more follow-up on that&#8230; I guess the reason I&#8217;m curious about who&#8217;s keeping track of what color the student is on is because at first I thought, &#8220;My goodness! They&#8217;ve finally figured out a system of tracking tardies where the record-keeping responsibility rests solely with the student!&#8221; But that just doesn&#8217;t seem possible.</p>
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