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		By: TMAO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PDFing the stuff and placing it inside the presentation is probably right on. Part of the value of some of my presentations (especially the ones to new teachers) is the sheer of volume of stuff I&#039;m throwing out. Here, I&#039;ve got your entire grammar program, with homework/ classwork/ quizzes/ notes for the entire year. I need to show more exemplar stuff and move forward in that vein. 

I&#039;ve got a gig coming up in your neck of the woods in January. More details when the folks send me the goods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDFing the stuff and placing it inside the presentation is probably right on. Part of the value of some of my presentations (especially the ones to new teachers) is the sheer of volume of stuff I&#8217;m throwing out. Here, I&#8217;ve got your entire grammar program, with homework/ classwork/ quizzes/ notes for the entire year. I need to show more exemplar stuff and move forward in that vein. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a gig coming up in your neck of the woods in January. More details when the folks send me the goods.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, &quot;Defy the Myth&quot; in inverse text sounds pretty awesome.  I&#039;m imagining you popping it up on the screen and walking off without looking back while everyone&#039;s brains explode.

For showing charts, handouts, etc., (which &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; a part of the OTF presentation) I&#039;d copy &amp; paste the &lt;em&gt;actual&lt;/em&gt; PDFs into PowerPoint/Keynote and then scale the graphic up to zoom in on what I wanted to talk about.  A copy for the audience in a handout is pretty mandatory but I don&#039;t see the conflict otherwise.

You ever give a presentation that&#039;s both a) offline, b) in California, and c) public, you oughtta let your public know about it.

&lt;strong&gt;Ken&lt;/strong&gt;, go for it.  I think in talking about technology, Vicki&#039;s absolutely right to demo the tech.  As far as simplicity goes, though, were her presentation mine, I would&#039;ve condensed and, in some cases, cut out a handful of slides and nearly every bullet point.

That&#039;s basically what I&#039;m driving at here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, &#8220;Defy the Myth&#8221; in inverse text sounds pretty awesome.  I&#8217;m imagining you popping it up on the screen and walking off without looking back while everyone&#8217;s brains explode.</p>
<p>For showing charts, handouts, etc., (which <em>were</em> a part of the OTF presentation) I&#8217;d copy &#038; paste the <em>actual</em> PDFs into PowerPoint/Keynote and then scale the graphic up to zoom in on what I wanted to talk about.  A copy for the audience in a handout is pretty mandatory but I don&#8217;t see the conflict otherwise.</p>
<p>You ever give a presentation that&#8217;s both a) offline, b) in California, and c) public, you oughtta let your public know about it.</p>
<p><strong>Ken</strong>, go for it.  I think in talking about technology, Vicki&#8217;s absolutely right to demo the tech.  As far as simplicity goes, though, were her presentation mine, I would&#8217;ve condensed and, in some cases, cut out a handful of slides and nearly every bullet point.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s basically what I&#8217;m driving at here.</p>
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		By: TMAO		</title>
		<link>/2007/tell-more-stories/#comment-32552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMAO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My non-classroom professional self does a fair amount of workshop presentation on improving literacy instruction for those good ol ELLs. These presentations are like 20% paradigm shifting, new principle presenting. I haven&#039;t pushed myself on images, although the &quot;teach-for-Kelly&quot; thought-line kicks some ass. Instead, I go for one big idea, one cool line, something that I can leave up behind me as I go. [And man, there&#039;s nothing cooler than standing in front of a big black slide with the words &quot;Defy The Myth&quot; in white text] The other 80% of my presentation are the resources to get it done. The 20% lends itself well to the principles of design you&#039;re promoting, and my work here has benefited from reading this here blog and seeing your OTF work last summer. 

The 80% is more problematic, because I&#039;m showing the actual organizers, 2-column cloze notes, tracking systems, etc. that make what we talked about in the 20% part possible. An early solution was to only do slides on the 20%, provide hard copies of the 80% and work from there. This was unsatisfying, because holding up paper and pointing to it just felt lame. 

Recently, I embedded all the 80% content into the 20% slides. This was more functionally satisfying, but esthetically problematic, because I had all these lame icons floating around my slides. That sucks.

So I don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s maybe not a big deal, because my 80% is good, hard-hitting stuff, I get real fired up about talking teaching, and I play &quot;Eye of the Tiger&quot; before every presentation. After that, you can&#039;t really go wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My non-classroom professional self does a fair amount of workshop presentation on improving literacy instruction for those good ol ELLs. These presentations are like 20% paradigm shifting, new principle presenting. I haven&#8217;t pushed myself on images, although the &#8220;teach-for-Kelly&#8221; thought-line kicks some ass. Instead, I go for one big idea, one cool line, something that I can leave up behind me as I go. [And man, there&#8217;s nothing cooler than standing in front of a big black slide with the words &#8220;Defy The Myth&#8221; in white text] The other 80% of my presentation are the resources to get it done. The 20% lends itself well to the principles of design you&#8217;re promoting, and my work here has benefited from reading this here blog and seeing your OTF work last summer. </p>
<p>The 80% is more problematic, because I&#8217;m showing the actual organizers, 2-column cloze notes, tracking systems, etc. that make what we talked about in the 20% part possible. An early solution was to only do slides on the 20%, provide hard copies of the 80% and work from there. This was unsatisfying, because holding up paper and pointing to it just felt lame. </p>
<p>Recently, I embedded all the 80% content into the 20% slides. This was more functionally satisfying, but esthetically problematic, because I had all these lame icons floating around my slides. That sucks.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s maybe not a big deal, because my 80% is good, hard-hitting stuff, I get real fired up about talking teaching, and I play &#8220;Eye of the Tiger&#8221; before every presentation. After that, you can&#8217;t really go wrong.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you mention that a lot of whiz-bang can actually diminish the presentation (the slides).  i just find it amusing that vicki notes that good presentations use video and so on.

I&#039;ve read some of your past posts that address the issue of simplicity.  I agree with your philosophy.

In fact, with your permission, I&#039;d like to use your 3 recommendations from your previous post as guidelines for my students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mention that a lot of whiz-bang can actually diminish the presentation (the slides).  i just find it amusing that vicki notes that good presentations use video and so on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read some of your past posts that address the issue of simplicity.  I agree with your philosophy.</p>
<p>In fact, with your permission, I&#8217;d like to use your 3 recommendations from your previous post as guidelines for my students.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2007/tell-more-stories/#comment-32029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems like nowadays a presentation isn&#039;t a presentation unless you tweet your network a &quot;tell Maine hello!&quot; halfway through and blow your audience&#039;s mind when ten people tweet back right away.  Point taken but FWIW I think the ideal &lt;em&gt;slidedeck&lt;/em&gt; (to whatever extent you use one) will leave me mostly clueless to the content of the presentation.

&lt;strong&gt;Ken&lt;/strong&gt;, not sure what you&#039;re referring to above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like nowadays a presentation isn&#8217;t a presentation unless you tweet your network a &#8220;tell Maine hello!&#8221; halfway through and blow your audience&#8217;s mind when ten people tweet back right away.  Point taken but FWIW I think the ideal <em>slidedeck</em> (to whatever extent you use one) will leave me mostly clueless to the content of the presentation.</p>
<p><strong>Ken</strong>, not sure what you&#8217;re referring to above.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>/2007/tell-more-stories/#comment-31966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Um...something above seems to go against your &#039;use less, get more&#039; credo (the U. of Chicago app.).

You lead a rough and tumble life.

How much time do you spend having to clarify your points???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;something above seems to go against your &#8216;use less, get more&#8217; credo (the U. of Chicago app.).</p>
<p>You lead a rough and tumble life.</p>
<p>How much time do you spend having to clarify your points???</p>
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		By: Vicki Davis		</title>
		<link>/2007/tell-more-stories/#comment-31960</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing to remember about looking at someone&#039;s powerpoints or in this case, slideshare is that you DO NOT get the stories.  I actually leave the PowerPoint and go into the wiki itself at several points to show videos and tell the story of the students.

So, as you evaluate presentations, be careful not to &quot;judge a preso by its slides&quot;  slides just don&#039;t get it anymore.

Great presentations use video, internet resources, AND a backchannel in my opinion! 

Thanks for the feedback, I really like the slide you did with the graphics on it of the WEb 2.0 items.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to remember about looking at someone&#8217;s powerpoints or in this case, slideshare is that you DO NOT get the stories.  I actually leave the PowerPoint and go into the wiki itself at several points to show videos and tell the story of the students.</p>
<p>So, as you evaluate presentations, be careful not to &#8220;judge a preso by its slides&#8221;  slides just don&#8217;t get it anymore.</p>
<p>Great presentations use video, internet resources, AND a backchannel in my opinion! </p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, I really like the slide you did with the graphics on it of the WEb 2.0 items.</p>
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		By: Dean Shareski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Shareski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A couple of insights as this is a passion of mine as well.

First I like guidelines over rules. Kawasaki&#039;s rules are nice guidelines but would never feel compelled to follow them too strictly. 

Yours of:
    * Use your voice to tell a story.
    * Use your handouts to convey information.
    * Use your slides to draw a picture of the story.

are great guidelines.


Second, slideshare for me is a nice place to find exemplary decks...not presentations. As you suggest without the voice, the deck can&#039;t stand on its own.  Very few, are using the .mp3 option...likely because it&#039;s easy to upload a deck..most are willing to sync an audio file. 

But as Ken laments...tag a few good decks in SlideShare and send kids over there to have look see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of insights as this is a passion of mine as well.</p>
<p>First I like guidelines over rules. Kawasaki&#8217;s rules are nice guidelines but would never feel compelled to follow them too strictly. </p>
<p>Yours of:<br />
    * Use your voice to tell a story.<br />
    * Use your handouts to convey information.<br />
    * Use your slides to draw a picture of the story.</p>
<p>are great guidelines.</p>
<p>Second, slideshare for me is a nice place to find exemplary decks&#8230;not presentations. As you suggest without the voice, the deck can&#8217;t stand on its own.  Very few, are using the .mp3 option&#8230;likely because it&#8217;s easy to upload a deck..most are willing to sync an audio file. </p>
<p>But as Ken laments&#8230;tag a few good decks in SlideShare and send kids over there to have look see.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You &quot;delete the slide on instinct&quot; if you find that you are reading it to keep you on track.

Two things:
1.  If only we could get our students to instinctively do the same!  But how many of them, a) create their slides moments before the presentation? b) have seen models of effective use of PowerPoint (what-have-you) by their teachers?  
2.  Humans do not have &#039;instinct&#039;.  Oh, and we can&#039;t multi-task.  Thank you, O great Psych Dept @ U-HA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You &#8220;delete the slide on instinct&#8221; if you find that you are reading it to keep you on track.</p>
<p>Two things:<br />
1.  If only we could get our students to instinctively do the same!  But how many of them, a) create their slides moments before the presentation? b) have seen models of effective use of PowerPoint (what-have-you) by their teachers?<br />
2.  Humans do not have &#8216;instinct&#8217;.  Oh, and we can&#8217;t multi-task.  Thank you, O great Psych Dept @ U-HA</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good stuff!  Question:  What&#039;s got you so focused on presentations right now?  You planning a U.S. tour?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff!  Question:  What&#8217;s got you so focused on presentations right now?  You planning a U.S. tour?</p>
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