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		By: Tom Kim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow -- this is a great metaphor. It really captures the abundant, careening curiosity of kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; this is a great metaphor. It really captures the abundant, careening curiosity of kids.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16765</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, as you gain confidence, practice taking them off track and bringing them back. Separate skills, mind you. Start them. Stop them and bring them back. Teacher kegels, if you&#039;ll pardon the analogy. In your terms, shake the pail now and then, and try to steady it. The more you do it, the easier it gets. 

That way, when a kid or a cough or a loose paper breaks the flow, you will know how to come back, and they will expect you (be waiting for you) to bring them back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, as you gain confidence, practice taking them off track and bringing them back. Separate skills, mind you. Start them. Stop them and bring them back. Teacher kegels, if you&#8217;ll pardon the analogy. In your terms, shake the pail now and then, and try to steady it. The more you do it, the easier it gets. </p>
<p>That way, when a kid or a cough or a loose paper breaks the flow, you will know how to come back, and they will expect you (be waiting for you) to bring them back.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hm.  And I&#039;ve gotta clarify again that what&#039;s important to &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; here (which ain&#039;t gospel by any stretch) is what happens while the pail is &lt;em&gt;in motion&lt;/em&gt;.

Start, stop, start, stop, whatever.  Controlling those interruptions are merely a matter of will.  What&#039;s really tricky for me (and a lot of teachers) are the &lt;em&gt;small&lt;/em&gt; disruptions to the classroom flow while we&#039;re already &lt;em&gt;inside&lt;/em&gt; a learning moment.

Those are much harder to identify and harder still to control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  And I&#8217;ve gotta clarify again that what&#8217;s important to <em>me</em> here (which ain&#8217;t gospel by any stretch) is what happens while the pail is <em>in motion</em>.</p>
<p>Start, stop, start, stop, whatever.  Controlling those interruptions are merely a matter of will.  What&#8217;s really tricky for me (and a lot of teachers) are the <em>small</em> disruptions to the classroom flow while we&#8217;re already <em>inside</em> a learning moment.</p>
<p>Those are much harder to identify and harder still to control.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16752</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Controlling the situation is the name of the game. By initiating the diversion, it leaves me in control, which makes it not so hard to come back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Controlling the situation is the name of the game. By initiating the diversion, it leaves me in control, which makes it not so hard to come back.</p>
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		By: jeffreygene		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeffreygene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@dan &#038; jonathan...i am also all for sloshing of pails with random interruptions. loved to be able to do things like show commercials or youtube clips when i taught junior history.

but i&#039;ve found in one year of teaching middle school that the effect of things that aren&#039;t directly related to the lesson/task at hand can often have the effect of emptying the bucket.

if the interruption is a good mental break, i would say that&#039;s simply smart teaching - helps you break the lesson down into more segments, which can thus be more easily recalled.

but if the interruption sets their brain going someplace you don&#039;t want it to...that&#039;s definitely some bad sloshing of the pail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dan &amp; jonathan&#8230;i am also all for sloshing of pails with random interruptions. loved to be able to do things like show commercials or youtube clips when i taught junior history.</p>
<p>but i&#8217;ve found in one year of teaching middle school that the effect of things that aren&#8217;t directly related to the lesson/task at hand can often have the effect of emptying the bucket.</p>
<p>if the interruption is a good mental break, i would say that&#8217;s simply smart teaching &#8211; helps you break the lesson down into more segments, which can thus be more easily recalled.</p>
<p>but if the interruption sets their brain going someplace you don&#8217;t want it to&#8230;that&#8217;s definitely some bad sloshing of the pail.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I think I know the difference. At this point I think I keep things running forward, even when I am making a mess. It&#039;s not always this explicit, but I know I&#039;ve said out loud: &quot;I can&#039;t work, I can&#039;t find anything&quot; and then added &quot;but you can work. Keep working!&quot; and let them laugh at my frantic clown routine (necessary break) but without causing the &quot;slosh.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think I know the difference. At this point I think I keep things running forward, even when I am making a mess. It&#8217;s not always this explicit, but I know I&#8217;ve said out loud: &#8220;I can&#8217;t work, I can&#8217;t find anything&#8221; and then added &#8220;but you can work. Keep working!&#8221; and let them laugh at my frantic clown routine (necessary break) but without causing the &#8220;slosh.&#8221;</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re talking to the guy who breaks for five minutes to show &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=284&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commercials&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;m all for stopping the pail entirely on its path.  That&#039;s necessary nonsense.

What I&#039;m trying to lump into one definition here are all the ways we interfere with our own goal of moving our students from one place of understanding to another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re talking to the guy who breaks for five minutes to show <a href="/?p=284" rel="nofollow">commercials</a>.  I&#8217;m all for stopping the pail entirely on its path.  That&#8217;s necessary nonsense.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to lump into one definition here are all the ways we interfere with our own goal of moving our students from one place of understanding to another.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm.
straying off topic, and interrupting students at work - those are bad things?

During one episode (ok, it was a year and a half ago) a student compared me to a brother - a really annoying little brother - and asked if I would let them work.

Of course, if the option is chat with teacher or do math, and they are choosing to do math, it&#039;s something of a set up. I know that 20 minutes focused is too long, so I provide the breaks. On a good day, the work is sufficiently engaging that they don&#039;t mind, after the interruption, going right back to it. On other days they might refuse the distraction altogether (annoying little brother story). 

I guess I&#039;m saying, a steady bucket is good, but you got to give it a swing now and then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.<br />
straying off topic, and interrupting students at work &#8211; those are bad things?</p>
<p>During one episode (ok, it was a year and a half ago) a student compared me to a brother &#8211; a really annoying little brother &#8211; and asked if I would let them work.</p>
<p>Of course, if the option is chat with teacher or do math, and they are choosing to do math, it&#8217;s something of a set up. I know that 20 minutes focused is too long, so I provide the breaks. On a good day, the work is sufficiently engaging that they don&#8217;t mind, after the interruption, going right back to it. On other days they might refuse the distraction altogether (annoying little brother story). </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m saying, a steady bucket is good, but you got to give it a swing now and then.</p>
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		By: David Robb		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16500</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Robb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like your analogy.  I think we could holding on to outdated supplies with stocking outdated supplies.  I often see teachers unwilling to part with outdated textbooks and other materials.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your analogy.  I think we could holding on to outdated supplies with stocking outdated supplies.  I often see teachers unwilling to part with outdated textbooks and other materials.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2007/the-sloshing-pail/#comment-16449</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that&#039;s the week-long, standards-based, fully tech-integrated lesson you pull off in a day.  Good luck with that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s the week-long, standards-based, fully tech-integrated lesson you pull off in a day.  Good luck with that one.</p>
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