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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well ... uh ... so long as I don&#039;t have to answer anything, I guess ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230; uh &#8230; so long as I don&#8217;t have to answer anything, I guess &#8230;</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan: As I was going to sleep last night, your comment &quot;what you imagine of my teaching is probably more valuable to you than how I actually teach&quot; started floating through you mind.

I think that may be dead-on. 

I&#039;m psyched to see whatever video Stephan and team come up with. I haven&#039;t gotten to observe other teachers since I started teaching. The training that I value most is the extended observations my methods of teaching math course required. Seeing how two different teachers worked, not just in a snippet but over the course of the semester, was invaluable. I miss getting that sense of different ways to approach teaching. The sense of possibility those observations provided.

But what you have going here is slightly different. Better than the pedagogy discussions between pre-service teachers in my theory classes, it offers, &quot;This is what works for me.&quot; It reminds me that I need to be aware of EVERY little detail that goes into my classes. I read what works for other people and my imagination plays it out. There&#039;s no way you, or anyone, could live up to the ideal teacher that I envision.

There&#039;s something to be said for the idea, &quot;You know what good teaching looks like; go and do likewise.&quot; How you convey the idea of what good teaching looks like seems like half the issue. (Differentiate instruction for the audio/visual learners? I think I just talked myself in a circle to answer my own unstated question.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: As I was going to sleep last night, your comment &#8220;what you imagine of my teaching is probably more valuable to you than how I actually teach&#8221; started floating through you mind.</p>
<p>I think that may be dead-on. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m psyched to see whatever video Stephan and team come up with. I haven&#8217;t gotten to observe other teachers since I started teaching. The training that I value most is the extended observations my methods of teaching math course required. Seeing how two different teachers worked, not just in a snippet but over the course of the semester, was invaluable. I miss getting that sense of different ways to approach teaching. The sense of possibility those observations provided.</p>
<p>But what you have going here is slightly different. Better than the pedagogy discussions between pre-service teachers in my theory classes, it offers, &#8220;This is what works for me.&#8221; It reminds me that I need to be aware of EVERY little detail that goes into my classes. I read what works for other people and my imagination plays it out. There&#8217;s no way you, or anyone, could live up to the ideal teacher that I envision.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something to be said for the idea, &#8220;You know what good teaching looks like; go and do likewise.&#8221; How you convey the idea of what good teaching looks like seems like half the issue. (Differentiate instruction for the audio/visual learners? I think I just talked myself in a circle to answer my own unstated question.)</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Stephen&lt;/strong&gt;, yes, please. Get this going.  I&#039;ll participate.  I&#039;d rather not lead.

To &lt;strong&gt;the girls&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the well-wishes.  I&#039;m excited.  It&#039;s nothing melodramatic to say that my life is going to look vastly different in seven months than it does now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stephen</strong>, yes, please. Get this going.  I&#8217;ll participate.  I&#8217;d rather not lead.</p>
<p>To <strong>the girls</strong>, thanks for the well-wishes.  I&#8217;m excited.  It&#8217;s nothing melodramatic to say that my life is going to look vastly different in seven months than it does now.</p>
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		By: JackieB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Congratulations! I can&#039;t wait to see what you do with the wedding video.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations! I can&#8217;t wait to see what you do with the wedding video.</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On second thought, it may not be your lead. But it does seem significant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, it may not be your lead. But it does seem significant.</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Way to bury the lead, Dan. I second the congratulations!

(And don&#039;t most people get engaged, then married, and then go to Hawaii? It was the best story I&#039;d made up. Not that I entertain myself by making up stories about online personalities,  say you or anyone who comments here...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to bury the lead, Dan. I second the congratulations!</p>
<p>(And don&#8217;t most people get engaged, then married, and then go to Hawaii? It was the best story I&#8217;d made up. Not that I entertain myself by making up stories about online personalities,  say you or anyone who comments here&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Stephen Humphrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention: I really like the multi-teacher coop idea. Gimme a week or two and I&#039;ll put a draft plan together, then invite all of you to tell me my plan sucks and how I &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be doing it. Then we&#039;ll do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention: I really like the multi-teacher coop idea. Gimme a week or two and I&#8217;ll put a draft plan together, then invite all of you to tell me my plan sucks and how I <i>should</i> be doing it. Then we&#8217;ll do that.</p>
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		By: Stephen Humphrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, CONGRATULATIONS!

Offer&#039;s off though.

I was an undergrad (21 years ago) when I got married. The week before, I locked my keys in my car while on campus. The traffic enforcement guy from campus security came over and slim-jimmed the door open.

Two day&#039;s later, I did it again. I call security, and the same guy shows up. He pops the lock, and with his hand still on the door handle, turns to me and says, &quot;You gettin&#039; married?&quot; I kid you not. This was in Los Angeles, not Utah; kids my age just didn&#039;t get married there.

So there is NO WAY I&#039;m working with you until after the honeymoon.

[...]

Okay, nevermind. Offer&#039;s back on. I want this too badly.

Hey, I don&#039;t know about chops; I&#039;m no professional. But I went to USC (great film school), worked at Sorenson (the video compression guys), and Apple (the ... well, you know). I&#039;ve picked up a few tricks along the way. Happy to use them any way you would like.

On a related note: USC&#039;s &quot;24/7 DIY Video Summit&quot; is this weekend. See: http://www.video24-7.org/ .  I&#039;m waitlisting for the program, but I&#039;m gonna at least hang out at the free screenings if I nothing else opens up. Anyone here email me if you&#039;re going too. [my full name squished together @ gmail]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, CONGRATULATIONS!</p>
<p>Offer&#8217;s off though.</p>
<p>I was an undergrad (21 years ago) when I got married. The week before, I locked my keys in my car while on campus. The traffic enforcement guy from campus security came over and slim-jimmed the door open.</p>
<p>Two day&#8217;s later, I did it again. I call security, and the same guy shows up. He pops the lock, and with his hand still on the door handle, turns to me and says, &#8220;You gettin&#8217; married?&#8221; I kid you not. This was in Los Angeles, not Utah; kids my age just didn&#8217;t get married there.</p>
<p>So there is NO WAY I&#8217;m working with you until after the honeymoon.</p>
<p>[&#8230;]</p>
<p>Okay, nevermind. Offer&#8217;s back on. I want this too badly.</p>
<p>Hey, I don&#8217;t know about chops; I&#8217;m no professional. But I went to USC (great film school), worked at Sorenson (the video compression guys), and Apple (the &#8230; well, you know). I&#8217;ve picked up a few tricks along the way. Happy to use them any way you would like.</p>
<p>On a related note: USC&#8217;s &#8220;24/7 DIY Video Summit&#8221; is this weekend. See: <a href="http://www.video24-7.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.video24-7.org/</a> .  I&#8217;m waitlisting for the program, but I&#8217;m gonna at least hang out at the free screenings if I nothing else opens up. Anyone here email me if you&#8217;re going too. [my full name squished together @ gmail]</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/gone-in-a-few-thousand-seconds/#comment-54658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, thanks a mil for the comments and advice and everything.  I&#039;ve been out of the office since the weekend on top of which I got engaged, so things are gonna be, like, twenty times slower around here for a bit.

Which doesn&#039;t automatically preclude &lt;strong&gt;Stephen&#039;s&lt;/strong&gt; idea.

Principally, I know (from going through the exact process &lt;strong&gt;Benjamin&lt;/strong&gt; is cranking through right now) how much work the release forms require.  It&#039;d be possible to angle it just-so but even then, factoring in crappy audio and static video, what you &lt;em&gt;imagine&lt;/em&gt; of my teaching is probably more valuable to you than how I actually teach.

If that all sounds like self-important garbage then, fine, let&#039;s do it.  Most likely, though, I&#039;ll record some individual set-pieces, like, how I open class, how I get into a learning moment, how I get out of it, how I get the class working, how I cajole them, etc.  Stuff like &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=364&quot;&gt;When I Talk You Listen&lt;/a&gt;.

And I&#039;m gonna be downright mean in coaxing other bloggers to do the same.  How sick would it be if I (or &lt;strong&gt;Stephen&lt;/strong&gt;, who seems to have some chops) edited together fifteen top-notch blogger-teachers and how they open a lesson (any lesson).  That&#039;d interest &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt;, anyway.

P.S.  &lt;strong&gt;Mary&lt;/strong&gt;, bragging rights seems strong enough though maybe I&#039;ve tossed out a candy or some points before.  Glad it worked out for you.  Fun, easy, fast way to get some buy-in on a question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks a mil for the comments and advice and everything.  I&#8217;ve been out of the office since the weekend on top of which I got engaged, so things are gonna be, like, twenty times slower around here for a bit.</p>
<p>Which doesn&#8217;t automatically preclude <strong>Stephen&#8217;s</strong> idea.</p>
<p>Principally, I know (from going through the exact process <strong>Benjamin</strong> is cranking through right now) how much work the release forms require.  It&#8217;d be possible to angle it just-so but even then, factoring in crappy audio and static video, what you <em>imagine</em> of my teaching is probably more valuable to you than how I actually teach.</p>
<p>If that all sounds like self-important garbage then, fine, let&#8217;s do it.  Most likely, though, I&#8217;ll record some individual set-pieces, like, how I open class, how I get into a learning moment, how I get out of it, how I get the class working, how I cajole them, etc.  Stuff like <a href="/?p=364">When I Talk You Listen</a>.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m gonna be downright mean in coaxing other bloggers to do the same.  How sick would it be if I (or <strong>Stephen</strong>, who seems to have some chops) edited together fifteen top-notch blogger-teachers and how they open a lesson (any lesson).  That&#8217;d interest <em>me</em>, anyway.</p>
<p>P.S.  <strong>Mary</strong>, bragging rights seems strong enough though maybe I&#8217;ve tossed out a candy or some points before.  Glad it worked out for you.  Fun, easy, fast way to get some buy-in on a question.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, I took bets for 5 bonus points today.  We were talking about the effects changing one or more dimensions have on  the perimeter and area of two-dimensional objects, then to surface area (lateral and total) and volume of three-dimensional figures.  You would have thought I gave them candy (not allowed in our state).  The students got farther and worked harder than I&#039;ve  seen in a while.  There was participation, discussions, light bulbs going off (I could tell by the &quot;AHHHHH! I get its&quot;) and excitement in the room.

Maybe it was the way I scaffolded the lesson (I don&#039;t think so).  Maybe it was the bet -- the challenge (I think so, since after I announced the &quot;bet&quot; - they were  engaged).  Who&#039;d have thought!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I took bets for 5 bonus points today.  We were talking about the effects changing one or more dimensions have on  the perimeter and area of two-dimensional objects, then to surface area (lateral and total) and volume of three-dimensional figures.  You would have thought I gave them candy (not allowed in our state).  The students got farther and worked harder than I&#8217;ve  seen in a while.  There was participation, discussions, light bulbs going off (I could tell by the &#8220;AHHHHH! I get its&#8221;) and excitement in the room.</p>
<p>Maybe it was the way I scaffolded the lesson (I don&#8217;t think so).  Maybe it was the bet &#8212; the challenge (I think so, since after I announced the &#8220;bet&#8221; &#8211; they were  engaged).  Who&#8217;d have thought!</p>
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