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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Tom&lt;/strong&gt;, ripping an Animoto file to embed it in Prezi sounds like a pain. I&#039;d listen to your people.

@&lt;strong&gt;Nancy&lt;/strong&gt;, your kids get bored with Animoto for the same reason I do: automation isn&#039;t fun after the first round. So we&#039;re only a couple degrees removed from each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Tom</strong>, ripping an Animoto file to embed it in Prezi sounds like a pain. I&#8217;d listen to your people.</p>
<p>@<strong>Nancy</strong>, your kids get bored with Animoto for the same reason I do: automation isn&#8217;t fun after the first round. So we&#8217;re only a couple degrees removed from each other.</p>
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		By: Nancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you Dan--but maybe for a different reason.  My kids get bored with tools like these after 1st use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Dan&#8211;but maybe for a different reason.  My kids get bored with tools like these after 1st use.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn it.  I didn&#039;t realize you&#039;d already done this.  

On a positive note, I haven&#039;t memorized everything you&#039;ve ever done- so your fear that I&#039;m stalking you can diminish slightly.

I keep trying to put my animoto in prezi but I end up getting dizzy and falling down.  My coworkers have begged me to stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it.  I didn&#8217;t realize you&#8217;d already done this.  </p>
<p>On a positive note, I haven&#8217;t memorized everything you&#8217;ve ever done- so your fear that I&#8217;m stalking you can diminish slightly.</p>
<p>I keep trying to put my animoto in prezi but I end up getting dizzy and falling down.  My coworkers have begged me to stop.</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordle Done Right		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-180375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordle Done Right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Hackwork [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Hackwork [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ways to use Wordle &#124; SoulCradler		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-177262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ways to use Wordle &#124; SoulCradler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] acknowledge the flipside of my argument and point you to Dy/Dan&#8217;s post on Wordle as nothing more than eye-candy and time-filler.Â  Maybe it is no more than [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] acknowledge the flipside of my argument and point you to Dy/Dan&#8217;s post on Wordle as nothing more than eye-candy and time-filler.Â  Maybe it is no more than [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Unexamined Tool is Not Worth Using &#124; Re-Siever		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-136579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Unexamined Tool is Not Worth Using &#124; Re-Siever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Dan Meyer blogged about Animoto and Wordle, suggesting that beyond the cool factor, which shouldn&#8217;t be a factor, they have little value in education: &#8230;for classroom purposes we need to stop judging these tools on the quality of their output rather on the rigor of their input and the interpretation of their output. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Dan Meyer blogged about Animoto and Wordle, suggesting that beyond the cool factor, which shouldn&#8217;t be a factor, they have little value in education: &#8230;for classroom purposes we need to stop judging these tools on the quality of their output rather on the rigor of their input and the interpretation of their output. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Todd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny, I wrote a post about Wordle a few weeks back and had no idea anyone else had even picked up on it other than the design blog where I found it. I thought you might have found it from me, but I guess others are ranting, too.

While I certainly do enjoy &quot;the quality of their output,&quot; it&#039;s only because of &quot;the interpretation of their output&quot; that I&#039;d even use Wordle in class; that&#039;s where my judgment of this comes from. But the quality of the output cannot be ignored -- you and I both, Dan, have used more than one blog entry to discuss the importance of &lt;a href=&quot;/?cat=21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;design in the classroom&lt;/a&gt;.

Getting ready to teach a complicated text? Start it off with a word cloud of that text and have students find meaning in the frequency of words. In the middle of a unit? Run a sample essay of the writing style you&#039;re teaching and see what comes up. Finished with something? Debrief as a class, getting each student to contribute a word/sentence which sums up their understanding. Run all those words/sentences through Wordle.

With both of these products, it seems that they suffer from trying to condense long works. What if Wordle was used for only the first few paragraphs of a book? Animoto for just a certain 5 minute segment of video? Would the results be more meaningful then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I wrote a post about Wordle a few weeks back and had no idea anyone else had even picked up on it other than the design blog where I found it. I thought you might have found it from me, but I guess others are ranting, too.</p>
<p>While I certainly do enjoy &#8220;the quality of their output,&#8221; it&#8217;s only because of &#8220;the interpretation of their output&#8221; that I&#8217;d even use Wordle in class; that&#8217;s where my judgment of this comes from. But the quality of the output cannot be ignored &#8212; you and I both, Dan, have used more than one blog entry to discuss the importance of <a href="/?cat=21" rel="nofollow">design in the classroom</a>.</p>
<p>Getting ready to teach a complicated text? Start it off with a word cloud of that text and have students find meaning in the frequency of words. In the middle of a unit? Run a sample essay of the writing style you&#8217;re teaching and see what comes up. Finished with something? Debrief as a class, getting each student to contribute a word/sentence which sums up their understanding. Run all those words/sentences through Wordle.</p>
<p>With both of these products, it seems that they suffer from trying to condense long works. What if Wordle was used for only the first few paragraphs of a book? Animoto for just a certain 5 minute segment of video? Would the results be more meaningful then?</p>
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		By: dkzody		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-131810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkzody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wordle--useless for me
Animoto--just a bunch of fun to show a whole lot of pics to a group, but I wouldn&#039;t use it in class except to say, &quot;here is something you might like, use it if you want.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordle&#8211;useless for me<br />
Animoto&#8211;just a bunch of fun to show a whole lot of pics to a group, but I wouldn&#8217;t use it in class except to say, &#8220;here is something you might like, use it if you want.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Nancy		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-131614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Several other sites might be added to the waste of time list--you might take a look at Voki and one of my favorites Blabberize.  I know, I know, everybody wants an avatar but talking llamas---pleezzee.

Here is one you might actually like-- http://zipskinny.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several other sites might be added to the waste of time list&#8211;you might take a look at Voki and one of my favorites Blabberize.  I know, I know, everybody wants an avatar but talking llamas&#8212;pleezzee.</p>
<p>Here is one you might actually like&#8211; <a href="http://zipskinny.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://zipskinny.com/</a></p>
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		By: Jonathan Feinberg		</title>
		<link>/2008/hackwork/#comment-131501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Feinberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wordle was designed to be a toy, in the spirit of Charles Eames&#039;s remark, &quot;Who would say that pleasure is not useful?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordle was designed to be a toy, in the spirit of Charles Eames&#8217;s remark, &#8220;Who would say that pleasure is not useful?&#8221;</p>
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