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		By: Maths 2.0 &#124; The Masterplan		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-202670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maths 2.0 &#124; The Masterplan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] This post has been knocking around my head for a while, I hope it comes out as intended.Â  I think it began to form whilst reading Dan Meyer&#8217;s blog post questioning the use of Web2.0 in instructing Math. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This post has been knocking around my head for a while, I hope it comes out as intended.Â  I think it began to form whilst reading Dan Meyer&#8217;s blog post questioning the use of Web2.0 in instructing Math. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jim Dornberg		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-187151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Dornberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about having your students create mathcasts?
See: http://math247.pbwiki.com/ 
Can be done in voicethread, or with free screen recording software.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about having your students create mathcasts?<br />
See: <a href="http://math247.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://math247.pbwiki.com/</a><br />
Can be done in voicethread, or with free screen recording software.</p>
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		By: Vicki Davis		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-187124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, BTW, the only way I found this was searching my name, if you&#039;ll link my name to my blog, I&#039;ll be faster in responding as I often don&#039;t take the time to search my name (about once a month) to respond to edublogospherians!!! ;-)

Thanks for a great blog!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW, the only way I found this was searching my name, if you&#8217;ll link my name to my blog, I&#8217;ll be faster in responding as I often don&#8217;t take the time to search my name (about once a month) to respond to edublogospherians!!! ;-)</p>
<p>Thanks for a great blog!</p>
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		By: Vicki Davis		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-187123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you looked at Eric Marcos and Mathtrain.tv -- great work there!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at Eric Marcos and Mathtrain.tv &#8212; great work there!</p>
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		By: Hiatus Over&#8230; &#124; Clarify Me		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-182350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiatus Over&#8230; &#124; Clarify Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] more could you want?!Â  A recent post of his that has caused me to get it into gear was this one where he lamented the lack of Web 2.0 technology that is transforming math instruction.Â  It made [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] more could you want?!Â  A recent post of his that has caused me to get it into gear was this one where he lamented the lack of Web 2.0 technology that is transforming math instruction.Â  It made [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-182021</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ELA standards break down into strands of reading, writing, and speaking, which is a like a 1-to-1 correspondence between blog-reading, blog-writing, and podcasting.  I&#039;m still trying to find the same correspondence in math.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ELA standards break down into strands of reading, writing, and speaking, which is a like a 1-to-1 correspondence between blog-reading, blog-writing, and podcasting.  I&#8217;m still trying to find the same correspondence in math.</p>
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		By: Ian H.		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-181811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, I hear what you&#039;re saying - I teach a wide variety of classes, and while I would love to bring web 2.0 to them in the same way, there are certainly many new media tools that are far more suited to History than Science.  Even Science has a writing and content-area reading component, so I can bluff my way into using wikis, blogs and podcasts for that.  I can&#039;t imagine trying to shoehorn Math/Algebra into what is, let&#039;s face it, a writing exercise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I hear what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; I teach a wide variety of classes, and while I would love to bring web 2.0 to them in the same way, there are certainly many new media tools that are far more suited to History than Science.  Even Science has a writing and content-area reading component, so I can bluff my way into using wikis, blogs and podcasts for that.  I can&#8217;t imagine trying to shoehorn Math/Algebra into what is, let&#8217;s face it, a writing exercise.</p>
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		By: Darren Kuropatwa		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-180109</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren Kuropatwa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Dan: I&#039;m not convinced. How does &lt;a href=&quot;http://pc40sf06.pbwiki.com&quot;/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; meet more of an ELA standard than it does a mathematics standard? Even for struggling learners how can &lt;a href=&quot;http://cm20sf07.pbwiki.com/Assignment%206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; be more of an ELA assessment than a mathematics assessment?

As for the &quot;cost&quot; vis a vis access to computers and the internet at home, I teach in an urban inner city school. Almost all kids have computers at home but there are always those that don&#039;t. So, as a public school, it is our responsibility to provide equal opportunity at school for all students to achieve and get the same quality of education. I&#039;ve often had students use my classroom computer to do their assignments and they use the school computers in the library or computer labs. It&#039;s doable. Very doable. 

From what I&#039;ve seen happening in my school, and what I&#039;ve been doing with my students for several years now, the concerns you raise here haven&#039;t materialized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan: I&#8217;m not convinced. How does <a href="http://pc40sf06.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow">this</a> meet more of an ELA standard than it does a mathematics standard? Even for struggling learners how can <a href="http://cm20sf07.pbwiki.com/Assignment%206" rel="nofollow">this</a> be more of an ELA assessment than a mathematics assessment?</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;cost&#8221; vis a vis access to computers and the internet at home, I teach in an urban inner city school. Almost all kids have computers at home but there are always those that don&#8217;t. So, as a public school, it is our responsibility to provide equal opportunity at school for all students to achieve and get the same quality of education. I&#8217;ve often had students use my classroom computer to do their assignments and they use the school computers in the library or computer labs. It&#8217;s doable. Very doable. </p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen happening in my school, and what I&#8217;ve been doing with my students for several years now, the concerns you raise here haven&#8217;t materialized.</p>
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		By: Ms. J (formerly Ms. Libb)		</title>
		<link>/2008/i-cant-do-this/#comment-179914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ms. J (formerly Ms. Libb)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that jeremy in Comment #28 answers your question perfectly Dan!

Frame your talk along the lines of what doesn&#039;t work for you (wikis, twitter, whatever) and then what does work - teacher collaboration.

After all, isn&#039;t the biggest problem TEACHER ignorance of technology?

I spent this summer reading the archives of your blog and about 10 other math ed blogs, and the posts and discussions (especially discussions) helped me so much to prepare for this first year. They made me think about professionalism, ethics, things to try and not to try, comfort that other people have the same problems and fears, ideas for activities and worksheets that I modified, etc.

If you teach these teachers about a couple of web applications, they will go home and AT MOST use those 2 applications in the next year.

If you teach these teachers about the edublogosphere, they can go home and just start reading blogs. Its far less intimidating than trying something new in your class, and slowly they can learn a million new things and incorporate them at their own pace and with their own judgement.

Tell them about your blog and others you respect and find valuable. Show them some of the best things you&#039;ve found on the web. Then show them that you have made a post on your blog with links to your recommendations so that during a spare 10 minutes they can go to that post and start clicking around and talking to other teachers about pedagogy.

You can use this opportunity to connect them to thoughtful education blogs and forums, whereas someone else might use it to teach them about This Cool New Thing Called Wikis. Please reconsider canceling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that jeremy in Comment #28 answers your question perfectly Dan!</p>
<p>Frame your talk along the lines of what doesn&#8217;t work for you (wikis, twitter, whatever) and then what does work &#8211; teacher collaboration.</p>
<p>After all, isn&#8217;t the biggest problem TEACHER ignorance of technology?</p>
<p>I spent this summer reading the archives of your blog and about 10 other math ed blogs, and the posts and discussions (especially discussions) helped me so much to prepare for this first year. They made me think about professionalism, ethics, things to try and not to try, comfort that other people have the same problems and fears, ideas for activities and worksheets that I modified, etc.</p>
<p>If you teach these teachers about a couple of web applications, they will go home and AT MOST use those 2 applications in the next year.</p>
<p>If you teach these teachers about the edublogosphere, they can go home and just start reading blogs. Its far less intimidating than trying something new in your class, and slowly they can learn a million new things and incorporate them at their own pace and with their own judgement.</p>
<p>Tell them about your blog and others you respect and find valuable. Show them some of the best things you&#8217;ve found on the web. Then show them that you have made a post on your blog with links to your recommendations so that during a spare 10 minutes they can go to that post and start clicking around and talking to other teachers about pedagogy.</p>
<p>You can use this opportunity to connect them to thoughtful education blogs and forums, whereas someone else might use it to teach them about This Cool New Thing Called Wikis. Please reconsider canceling.</p>
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		By: Leigh Ann Sudol		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Ann Sudol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone remember the Math Forum?  When I was in college I was one of the Math Doctors - Students would email the service with questions and the collection of Math Doctors would be able to pick and choose the questions to answer.

There is great education research that shows students learn complex thinking skills and challenging topics best by practice and teaching the topics to others.  What about creating a homework help site?  Students asking questions are not allowed to post the exact problem from the homework - must change the numbers around, and helpers are not allowed to give the solution but only next steps in the process.

The rules of interaction here will define this a particularly suited for math.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember the Math Forum?  When I was in college I was one of the Math Doctors &#8211; Students would email the service with questions and the collection of Math Doctors would be able to pick and choose the questions to answer.</p>
<p>There is great education research that shows students learn complex thinking skills and challenging topics best by practice and teaching the topics to others.  What about creating a homework help site?  Students asking questions are not allowed to post the exact problem from the homework &#8211; must change the numbers around, and helpers are not allowed to give the solution but only next steps in the process.</p>
<p>The rules of interaction here will define this a particularly suited for math.</p>
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