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		By: Gina Marie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gina Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had to stop watching. I have the same issues with this as I do with the Did You Know 2.0 video AND Marc Prensky (http://www.marcprensky.com/), a proponent of gaming as a teaching method: Our children are watching 16 hours of T.V. a week but only reading 3 hours?! Why is this a statistic we are celebrating? (Well, maybe that&#039;s a poor word choice, but I think condoning fits.)

Nesbitt points out these statistics about China leading the world in English speakers -- that&#039;s because they read books and study language. It (probably) has very little to do with how many laptop carts they have in their schools and their ability to make WoW educational. 

I know we have to reach our &quot;digital native&quot; students, but not at the expense of paper and pencil. If I have a student that turns in a paper using TXTing slang, I shouldn&#039;t allow it because that&#039;s &quot;how they do it nowadays.&quot; (I realize this is an exaggeration of what the Edu 2.0 peeps are proposing, but I am trying to make a point.)

My other issue is (Boy oh boy I just spend 10 weeks and many discussion posts on this for an online grad course on 21st Century Teaching) students/teenagers AREN&#039;T (all) blogging -- at least blogging the way we know blogging (the whole edublog sphere, for instance). They are writing shallow and superficial diary entries about their day at school and what the current gossip is concerning Jenny and Johnny. I am sorry to be such a cynic here, but it&#039;s true. I surveyed a few of my students with a  range of ability levels for my grad course, and even the most advanced ones were not blogging about pressing matters of the world. My lower level students didn&#039;t even game or get on the computer at home. When asked what they did in their free time they listed OUTDOOR activities. Imagine that. Natural light. 

Whew! Thanks for getting me all fired up -- I hadn&#039;t seen this video. It&#039;s been a while since I ranted about Did You Know - http://poeticallychallanged.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/web-20-has-ruined-the-next-generation/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to stop watching. I have the same issues with this as I do with the Did You Know 2.0 video AND Marc Prensky (<a href="http://www.marcprensky.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.marcprensky.com/</a>), a proponent of gaming as a teaching method: Our children are watching 16 hours of T.V. a week but only reading 3 hours?! Why is this a statistic we are celebrating? (Well, maybe that&#8217;s a poor word choice, but I think condoning fits.)</p>
<p>Nesbitt points out these statistics about China leading the world in English speakers &#8212; that&#8217;s because they read books and study language. It (probably) has very little to do with how many laptop carts they have in their schools and their ability to make WoW educational. </p>
<p>I know we have to reach our &#8220;digital native&#8221; students, but not at the expense of paper and pencil. If I have a student that turns in a paper using TXTing slang, I shouldn&#8217;t allow it because that&#8217;s &#8220;how they do it nowadays.&#8221; (I realize this is an exaggeration of what the Edu 2.0 peeps are proposing, but I am trying to make a point.)</p>
<p>My other issue is (Boy oh boy I just spend 10 weeks and many discussion posts on this for an online grad course on 21st Century Teaching) students/teenagers AREN&#8217;T (all) blogging &#8212; at least blogging the way we know blogging (the whole edublog sphere, for instance). They are writing shallow and superficial diary entries about their day at school and what the current gossip is concerning Jenny and Johnny. I am sorry to be such a cynic here, but it&#8217;s true. I surveyed a few of my students with a  range of ability levels for my grad course, and even the most advanced ones were not blogging about pressing matters of the world. My lower level students didn&#8217;t even game or get on the computer at home. When asked what they did in their free time they listed OUTDOOR activities. Imagine that. Natural light. </p>
<p>Whew! Thanks for getting me all fired up &#8212; I hadn&#8217;t seen this video. It&#8217;s been a while since I ranted about Did You Know &#8211; <a href="http://poeticallychallanged.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/web-20-has-ruined-the-next-generation/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://poeticallychallanged.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/web-20-has-ruined-the-next-generation/</a></p>
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		By: Conversation And Circumstance &#124; Teaching Generation Z		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] no, not everyone is out to change the face of education. Some are even openly skeptical about this movement characterised as Classroom 2.0. They just appreciate the opportunity to look [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] no, not everyone is out to change the face of education. Some are even openly skeptical about this movement characterised as Classroom 2.0. They just appreciate the opportunity to look [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: John Larkin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Larkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, impressed with your thoughts on this. Last October I crtiticised Mike Wesch&#039;s video and in response I was labelled &quot;too harsh&quot;. I was quite happy to read that. But I did get support as well. In fact i was glad people were reading my blog. Hooray!

Essentially I wrote that I grow tired of these &#039;inspirational&#039; videos. Perhaps it is the nauseatingly sentimental background music, or the kitsch use of slogans and messages. They seem to state the same thing…. “The world is changing, students are changing, we need to change, we are rich, they are poor, and so on.”

But, there is one thing for sure. This video and others like it will all be dished out by presenters to fill out their sixty minute gig at the next conference. That really pisses me off. Hell no! I swore on the Internet!

I gotta go. My cat wants me.

Cheers, John]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, impressed with your thoughts on this. Last October I crtiticised Mike Wesch&#8217;s video and in response I was labelled &#8220;too harsh&#8221;. I was quite happy to read that. But I did get support as well. In fact i was glad people were reading my blog. Hooray!</p>
<p>Essentially I wrote that I grow tired of these &#8216;inspirational&#8217; videos. Perhaps it is the nauseatingly sentimental background music, or the kitsch use of slogans and messages. They seem to state the same thing…. “The world is changing, students are changing, we need to change, we are rich, they are poor, and so on.”</p>
<p>But, there is one thing for sure. This video and others like it will all be dished out by presenters to fill out their sixty minute gig at the next conference. That really pisses me off. Hell no! I swore on the Internet!</p>
<p>I gotta go. My cat wants me.</p>
<p>Cheers, John</p>
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		By: The Tech Savvy Educator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Forum Friday - Time to Think!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Blog to get you Thinking about HOW WE EDUCATE Dy/Dan For those that follow the edublogosphere closely, you may already be aware of Mr. Meyer&#8217;s completely irreverent, yet highly accurate reflections of teaching efficacy. While he occasionally pretends to blog about teaching secondary mathematics, reading just a few posts will quickly reveal that he&#8217;s an up and coming educator that I fully except to see as a headlining keynote at large educational conferences; once he figures out a way to support both the teachers who are emotionally connected to education AN.... [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Blog to get you Thinking about HOW WE EDUCATE Dy/Dan For those that follow the edublogosphere closely, you may already be aware of Mr. Meyer&#8217;s completely irreverent, yet highly accurate reflections of teaching efficacy. While he occasionally pretends to blog about teaching secondary mathematics, reading just a few posts will quickly reveal that he&#8217;s an up and coming educator that I fully except to see as a headlining keynote at large educational conferences; once he figures out a way to support both the teachers who are emotionally connected to education AN&#8230;. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: rdsc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah - lame.  Wesch and Fisch aren&#039;t lame -  (ok - I just wanted to say that... vesh and fish aren&#039;t lame).  Wesch is a good teacher I think, you can see what he&#039;s doing:
http://www.netvibes.com/wesch#Digital_Ethnography]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; lame.  Wesch and Fisch aren&#8217;t lame &#8211;  (ok &#8211; I just wanted to say that&#8230; vesh and fish aren&#8217;t lame).  Wesch is a good teacher I think, you can see what he&#8217;s doing:<br />
<a href="http://www.netvibes.com/wesch#Digital_Ethnography" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.netvibes.com/wesch#Digital_Ethnography</a></p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, great post.  I blogged about similar issues a while back:

http://www.getrealscience.com/jhenderson/?p=72

I&#039;m with you on this one.  It just seems like another &quot;false god&quot; in education to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, great post.  I blogged about similar issues a while back:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getrealscience.com/jhenderson/?p=72" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.getrealscience.com/jhenderson/?p=72</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on this one.  It just seems like another &#8220;false god&#8221; in education to me.</p>
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		By: Benjamin Baxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Baxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where have I heard that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-english-proverbs&quot;&gt;purity of intent&lt;/a&gt;, before?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have I heard that <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-english-proverbs">purity of intent</a>, before?</p>
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		By: Dina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s BILLIONS, Dan. Honestly, your fact-checking is horrendous.  And I really think you should be more appreciative of the word-for-word appropriation of huge chunks of &quot;Do You Know?&quot; in AVK12T, too. People need to have information presented to them in several different ways. It&#039;s just good pedagogy. 

More seriously, it&#039;s precisely my point that AVK12T does *not* address the human condition in NO (or in the US)-- nor does any tech sectarian. Richest per capita, and still leading the world in child poverty in industrialized nations? Upgrading your district&#039;s connection to T1 cable so your kids can &quot;create something new digitally&quot; just doesn&#039;t seem like it ought to be an overarching priority, does it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s BILLIONS, Dan. Honestly, your fact-checking is horrendous.  And I really think you should be more appreciative of the word-for-word appropriation of huge chunks of &#8220;Do You Know?&#8221; in AVK12T, too. People need to have information presented to them in several different ways. It&#8217;s just good pedagogy. </p>
<p>More seriously, it&#8217;s precisely my point that AVK12T does *not* address the human condition in NO (or in the US)&#8211; nor does any tech sectarian. Richest per capita, and still leading the world in child poverty in industrialized nations? Upgrading your district&#8217;s connection to T1 cable so your kids can &#8220;create something new digitally&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t seem like it ought to be an overarching priority, does it.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Dina: I don&#039;t think &lt;em&gt;AVK12T&lt;/em&gt; addresses the human condition you witnessed in NO, which, I have little doubt, was awful.

&lt;em&gt;AVK12T&lt;/em&gt; advocates for the &lt;em&gt;millions&lt;/em&gt; of students who beg, &quot;Please let me think,&quot; and whose teachers, each one made wholly from straw, reply, &quot;No.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dina: I don&#8217;t think <em>AVK12T</em> addresses the human condition you witnessed in NO, which, I have little doubt, was awful.</p>
<p><em>AVK12T</em> advocates for the <em>millions</em> of students who beg, &#8220;Please let me think,&#8221; and whose teachers, each one made wholly from straw, reply, &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Chris: I&#039;m not.  The difference between &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sectarian&quot;&gt;sectarian&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and &quot;proponent&quot; or &quot;enthusiast&quot; or &quot;principal&quot; isn&#039;t lost on me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: I&#8217;m not.  The difference between &#8220;<a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sectarian">sectarian</a>&#8221; and &#8220;proponent&#8221; or &#8220;enthusiast&#8221; or &#8220;principal&#8221; isn&#8217;t lost on me.</p>
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