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		By: Scott S. Floyd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott S. Floyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

The best two sessions you described sound like they were teaching in a Harkness Method environment. We could all go a LONG way in teaching our students how to learn if we adopted some Socratic and Harkness teaching styles. Too bad we cannot do that in a conference preso. Or can we?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>The best two sessions you described sound like they were teaching in a Harkness Method environment. We could all go a LONG way in teaching our students how to learn if we adopted some Socratic and Harkness teaching styles. Too bad we cannot do that in a conference preso. Or can we?</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly, &lt;strong&gt;Nadine&lt;/strong&gt;, I&#039;m close to feeling bad about all this if only I could answer two questions: a) how high are expectations that are just high enough? and b) is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quickanded.com/2008/10/standards.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is any time for lowered expectations?

I think the real issue here is how we issue criticism. I don&#039;t have any problem with anyone&#039;s criticism of my work so long as the criticism is a) clear and b) actionable.  Under those two conditions, it doesn&#039;t matter to me how high someone&#039;s expectations are.  I may regret not having more hours in the day to assimilate that criticism but I&#039;d rather have more to work on not less.

For example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuttlesvc.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tom Hoffman&lt;/a&gt; disagrees with my writing 90% of the time. His only appeal to me is that he (usually) outlines his criticism with clear writing and actionable follow-up, criticism that is in unfortunately short supply. cf. Darren Draper who, at one point, called my writing &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://drapestakes.blogspot.com/2008/06/in-search-of-motives-more-pure.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pointless blather&lt;/a&gt;&quot; without qualifying that with any specific disagreement or follow-up. I hope that my criticism falls into the first category more often than the second.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, <strong>Nadine</strong>, I&#8217;m close to feeling bad about all this if only I could answer two questions: a) how high are expectations that are just high enough? and b) is <a href="http://www.quickanded.com/2008/10/standards.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> is any time for lowered expectations?</p>
<p>I think the real issue here is how we issue criticism. I don&#8217;t have any problem with anyone&#8217;s criticism of my work so long as the criticism is a) clear and b) actionable.  Under those two conditions, it doesn&#8217;t matter to me how high someone&#8217;s expectations are.  I may regret not having more hours in the day to assimilate that criticism but I&#8217;d rather have more to work on not less.</p>
<p>For example, <a href="http://www.tuttlesvc.org/" rel="nofollow">Tom Hoffman</a> disagrees with my writing 90% of the time. His only appeal to me is that he (usually) outlines his criticism with clear writing and actionable follow-up, criticism that is in unfortunately short supply. cf. Darren Draper who, at one point, called my writing &#8220;<a href="http://drapestakes.blogspot.com/2008/06/in-search-of-motives-more-pure.html" rel="nofollow">pointless blather</a>&#8221; without qualifying that with any specific disagreement or follow-up. I hope that my criticism falls into the first category more often than the second.</p>
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		By: Nadine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, thanks for this post. Your original about ILC, well....frankly...it bummed me out. As someone who is preparing presentations for local and state conferences, I felt your expectations were a little too high. I&#039;m not a professional, and the fact that I can engage a room full of middle school students does not necessarily make me engaging enough to entertain a bunch of really smart educators. This post makes me a little more hopeful. I&#039;ll be sure to include lots of examples in my presentations, and stay away from the &quot;googleable&quot; stuff. Luckily, you won&#039;t be at the conferences that I&#039;m presenting at, and even if you were, I&#039;m sure I have nothing for you, so my fragile self-esteem wouldn&#039;t have to be repaired from your snarky tweets. Keep up the good work....you help us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, thanks for this post. Your original about ILC, well&#8230;.frankly&#8230;it bummed me out. As someone who is preparing presentations for local and state conferences, I felt your expectations were a little too high. I&#8217;m not a professional, and the fact that I can engage a room full of middle school students does not necessarily make me engaging enough to entertain a bunch of really smart educators. This post makes me a little more hopeful. I&#8217;ll be sure to include lots of examples in my presentations, and stay away from the &#8220;googleable&#8221; stuff. Luckily, you won&#8217;t be at the conferences that I&#8217;m presenting at, and even if you were, I&#8217;m sure I have nothing for you, so my fragile self-esteem wouldn&#8217;t have to be repaired from your snarky tweets. Keep up the good work&#8230;.you help us all.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>/2008/my-shortest-ever-post-on-presentation/#comment-182711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Dan - Thanks for the link!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan &#8211; Thanks for the link!</p>
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		By: Ken Pendergrass		</title>
		<link>/2008/my-shortest-ever-post-on-presentation/#comment-182381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Pendergrass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ditto-

Go out RIGHT NOW and get Nancy Duarte&#039;s book
&lt;a href=&quot;http://slideology.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slide:ology&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto-</p>
<p>Go out RIGHT NOW and get Nancy Duarte&#8217;s book<br />
<a href="http://slideology.com/" rel="nofollow">Slide:ology</a></p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HAHAHA, ROFLOLPIMP &quot;seasoned&quot; presenter, good lord, I only did my first conference preso in January, and that was a local one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHA, ROFLOLPIMP &#8220;seasoned&#8221; presenter, good lord, I only did my first conference preso in January, and that was a local one.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To &lt;strong&gt;Alice, Joe, and the other seasoned presenters&lt;/strong&gt;, speaking hypothetically, if your session synopsis clearly outlined your goals and if you gave a quick preview at the start of your talk &lt;em&gt;specifying&lt;/em&gt; that it would be a poor use of your experience to talk about things you could learn from the manual or from a Google search (and by the way, here&#039;s a delicious tag featuring links to &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; of those tutorials) could you &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; get down to the business of 1) here&#039;s what I wanted to do, 2) here were the challenges I faced, 3) here&#039;s how I got past them, 4) here&#039;s some neat stuff I&#039;ll try next time?

Obviously you can wedge in a few tips for the first-timers, but that intro-level stuff was the rule and not the exception in the sessions I attended at ILC.

&lt;strong&gt;Mike&lt;/strong&gt;, the best two sessions I attended at the only two conferences I have attended in the last year both proposed sending students home with the textbook or a podcast to learn on their own and then, the following day, class time was spent dealing with the unGoogleables: meaty problems, complicated labs, that sort of thing.

It&#039;s compelling. Here is &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=514&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one session summary&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To <strong>Alice, Joe, and the other seasoned presenters</strong>, speaking hypothetically, if your session synopsis clearly outlined your goals and if you gave a quick preview at the start of your talk <em>specifying</em> that it would be a poor use of your experience to talk about things you could learn from the manual or from a Google search (and by the way, here&#8217;s a delicious tag featuring links to <em>all</em> of those tutorials) could you <em>then</em> get down to the business of 1) here&#8217;s what I wanted to do, 2) here were the challenges I faced, 3) here&#8217;s how I got past them, 4) here&#8217;s some neat stuff I&#8217;ll try next time?</p>
<p>Obviously you can wedge in a few tips for the first-timers, but that intro-level stuff was the rule and not the exception in the sessions I attended at ILC.</p>
<p><strong>Mike</strong>, the best two sessions I attended at the only two conferences I have attended in the last year both proposed sending students home with the textbook or a podcast to learn on their own and then, the following day, class time was spent dealing with the unGoogleables: meaty problems, complicated labs, that sort of thing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s compelling. Here is <a href="/?p=514" rel="nofollow">one session summary</a>.</p>
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		By: Ian H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think a lot of blogging teachers are on the bleeding edge of tech transformation, even though we don&#039;t recognize it.  I grew up surrounded by technology, so it baffles me when the teacher down the hall doesn&#039;t know that Google does more than search.  No one can be an expert on everything, so I help out others where I can and assume that at some point, when I have a question that Google can&#039;t answer, someone will be willing/able to help me out...

As a presenter, I find that if your synopsis is very clear, there won&#039;t be as many false expectations.  I&#039;ve done a couple of sessions on the basics of multimedia production, and I&#039;ve had questions like how to select multiple cells in a table in Dreamweaver... fortunately, everyone in the session was on the same wavelength (or at least if they weren&#039;t, they didn&#039;t say anything - I had pretty positive feedback).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of blogging teachers are on the bleeding edge of tech transformation, even though we don&#8217;t recognize it.  I grew up surrounded by technology, so it baffles me when the teacher down the hall doesn&#8217;t know that Google does more than search.  No one can be an expert on everything, so I help out others where I can and assume that at some point, when I have a question that Google can&#8217;t answer, someone will be willing/able to help me out&#8230;</p>
<p>As a presenter, I find that if your synopsis is very clear, there won&#8217;t be as many false expectations.  I&#8217;ve done a couple of sessions on the basics of multimedia production, and I&#8217;ve had questions like how to select multiple cells in a table in Dreamweaver&#8230; fortunately, everyone in the session was on the same wavelength (or at least if they weren&#8217;t, they didn&#8217;t say anything &#8211; I had pretty positive feedback).</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Along with Matthew and a few other commenters, I find when I present that there is inevitably a few attendees who will flip out (and I mean flip out) if I don&#039;t show them what I would consider obvious or easy to Google.  Its just as annoying to a presenter as I am sure it is to other attendees.  However, much like with my 8th graders my goal is to help everyone be successful.  

Alice, I like the idea of providing your own evaluation for your session.  ILC08 was the first conference at which I have presented where there were no evaluation forms.  I live off feedback and I am disappointed not to have more than the few comments and emails I received over the weekend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along with Matthew and a few other commenters, I find when I present that there is inevitably a few attendees who will flip out (and I mean flip out) if I don&#8217;t show them what I would consider obvious or easy to Google.  Its just as annoying to a presenter as I am sure it is to other attendees.  However, much like with my 8th graders my goal is to help everyone be successful.  </p>
<p>Alice, I like the idea of providing your own evaluation for your session.  ILC08 was the first conference at which I have presented where there were no evaluation forms.  I live off feedback and I am disappointed not to have more than the few comments and emails I received over the weekend.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mathew That AMAZES me, because you made it QUITE clear from the beginning that it was not a how-to use the software preso. 

Another thing amazing me, there were NO eval forms at ILC for concurrent presenters, so I only have ONE person who used my online eval form at my training blog (http://mercertraining.edublogs.org)/

This is JUST WRONG! I have one person, who gave me a very high rating, except for organization which is &quot;okay&quot; I can&#039;t figure this out (which is a comment on my poll, not on the person responding, thank god she did), and an &quot;n&quot; of 1 is way too small. Maybe I should bribe folks with chocolate, I don&#039;t know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mathew That AMAZES me, because you made it QUITE clear from the beginning that it was not a how-to use the software preso. </p>
<p>Another thing amazing me, there were NO eval forms at ILC for concurrent presenters, so I only have ONE person who used my online eval form at my training blog (<a href="http://mercertraining.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mercertraining.edublogs.org/</a>)</p>
<p>This is JUST WRONG! I have one person, who gave me a very high rating, except for organization which is &#8220;okay&#8221; I can&#8217;t figure this out (which is a comment on my poll, not on the person responding, thank god she did), and an &#8220;n&#8221; of 1 is way too small. Maybe I should bribe folks with chocolate, I don&#8217;t know?</p>
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