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		By: Why My Blog (Probably) Will Get Me Booted Out &#171; On the Tenure Track		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-115134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why My Blog (Probably) Will Get Me Booted Out &#171; On the Tenure Track]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] mean like most of the top 50 education bloggers who, as teacher blogger Dan Meyer noted, write using their real names? The first thing we told you was that Facebook and MySpace will get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] mean like most of the top 50 education bloggers who, as teacher blogger Dan Meyer noted, write using their real names? The first thing we told you was that Facebook and MySpace will get [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Terry Freedman		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry Freedman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, I&#039;ve re-read your post and you were not unclear -- the fault is entirely mine, for which I apologise. I am now reinstating my golden rule: never write emails or respond to blog posts at 3 in the morning!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I&#8217;ve re-read your post and you were not unclear &#8212; the fault is entirely mine, for which I apologise. I am now reinstating my golden rule: never write emails or respond to blog posts at 3 in the morning!</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114320</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Terry&lt;/strong&gt;, I&#039;ve been unclear.  There is a crowd, a member of which I have quoted, that would chalk (eg) Warlick&#039;s readership and reach to the free time offered by his job as a consultant.  I&#039;m saying: this is unfairly dismissive.  I&#039;m saying: consultant, tech specialist, classroom teacher, whatever. The only currency around here is interesting ideas clearly written by a compelling personality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Terry</strong>, I&#8217;ve been unclear.  There is a crowd, a member of which I have quoted, that would chalk (eg) Warlick&#8217;s readership and reach to the free time offered by his job as a consultant.  I&#8217;m saying: this is unfairly dismissive.  I&#8217;m saying: consultant, tech specialist, classroom teacher, whatever. The only currency around here is interesting ideas clearly written by a compelling personality.</p>
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		By: That uncomfortable place &#124; Sustainably Digital		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[That uncomfortable place &#124; Sustainably Digital]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] on a well-read blog, Dan Meyer and Darren Draper have expressed differing opinions on (perceived) motivations for blogging, what constitutes quality in a blog, and even &#8220;proper&#8221; Twitter use. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on a well-read blog, Dan Meyer and Darren Draper have expressed differing opinions on (perceived) motivations for blogging, what constitutes quality in a blog, and even &#8220;proper&#8221; Twitter use. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Terry Freedman		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry Freedman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I broadly agree, but you do yourself and your argument no favours by disparaging consultants, even if only by implication.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I broadly agree, but you do yourself and your argument no favours by disparaging consultants, even if only by implication.</p>
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		By: Alfred Thompson		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alfred Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that Technorati is an absolute measure of quality. There are many quality blogs with few links. Other is is a factor of the audience they are trying to reach. What matters to many is not how many (in raw numbers) they reach but how many (as a percentage) of their target audience they reach. Technorati is not a good tool for that.

It is not going to pick up the subject matter expert - the math teacher, the AP English teacher, the physics teacher or the teacher who is just using their blog to communicate in a personal way with their student&#039;s parents. For big picture policy or big picture ed/tech bloggers perhaps it has some more value. The audience is larger and the number of people in the space is larger.

Scott&#039;s list is interesting but may not really be important. Sure he gets more links when he posts such a list but I think the real value, if not to him but to the education blogosphere in general is the discussions these lists generate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that Technorati is an absolute measure of quality. There are many quality blogs with few links. Other is is a factor of the audience they are trying to reach. What matters to many is not how many (in raw numbers) they reach but how many (as a percentage) of their target audience they reach. Technorati is not a good tool for that.</p>
<p>It is not going to pick up the subject matter expert &#8211; the math teacher, the AP English teacher, the physics teacher or the teacher who is just using their blog to communicate in a personal way with their student&#8217;s parents. For big picture policy or big picture ed/tech bloggers perhaps it has some more value. The audience is larger and the number of people in the space is larger.</p>
<p>Scott&#8217;s list is interesting but may not really be important. Sure he gets more links when he posts such a list but I think the real value, if not to him but to the education blogosphere in general is the discussions these lists generate.</p>
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		By: H.		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-114109</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... and you link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://educatorblog.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Educatorblog&lt;/a&gt; just as I&#039;m trying had to cut DOWN on the number of blog subscriptions...

I mean, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and you link to <a href="http://educatorblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Educatorblog</a> just as I&#8217;m trying had to cut DOWN on the number of blog subscriptions&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean, thanks.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-113615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for crushing my already damaged sense of self.  Apparently, this blogging thing has been just as effective as therapy.

Tick, tock.  Tick, tock.

But at least I&#039;m a gas at parties (here&#039;s hoping you didn&#039;t mean ether).

I&#039;ve never been one to equate blogging with some sort of pseudo-fantasy baseball statistical orgy.

I&#039;m just gonna go teach.

Rock on, you high-ranking writers.  You&#039;re in my emotional blogroll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for crushing my already damaged sense of self.  Apparently, this blogging thing has been just as effective as therapy.</p>
<p>Tick, tock.  Tick, tock.</p>
<p>But at least I&#8217;m a gas at parties (here&#8217;s hoping you didn&#8217;t mean ether).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been one to equate blogging with some sort of pseudo-fantasy baseball statistical orgy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just gonna go teach.</p>
<p>Rock on, you high-ranking writers.  You&#8217;re in my emotional blogroll.</p>
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		By: Arthus Erea		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-113589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthus Erea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@jethro: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Consultants&lt;/a&gt; are professionals who give advice in a specific area of expertise:
1) we don&#039;t purport to be experts in any way
2) we&#039;re certainly not professionals
3) who are we &quot;pitching&quot; to: we&#039;re students, writing so our dissatisfaction isn&#039;t bottled up and so we can possibly affect change

You are partially right about us being first-movers. Almost all of the student bloggers at Students 2.0 are some of the first edubloggers out there. But none of our individual blogs enjoy anywhere near the same level of popularity Students 2.0 has, despite having been around almost 2 years before Students 2.0 was founded. And we certainly aren&#039;t the first teens to blog. :P

I would say we have some degree of free time. However, I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s any more than anyone else on the list (the edublogesphere for that matter). We have almost exactly the same &quot;work&quot; hours as other edubloggers, except we&#039;ve got 3 hours of homework, sports, extra-curriculars, and part-time jobs which cut into that free time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jethro: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant" rel="nofollow">Consultants</a> are professionals who give advice in a specific area of expertise:<br />
1) we don&#8217;t purport to be experts in any way<br />
2) we&#8217;re certainly not professionals<br />
3) who are we &#8220;pitching&#8221; to: we&#8217;re students, writing so our dissatisfaction isn&#8217;t bottled up and so we can possibly affect change</p>
<p>You are partially right about us being first-movers. Almost all of the student bloggers at Students 2.0 are some of the first edubloggers out there. But none of our individual blogs enjoy anywhere near the same level of popularity Students 2.0 has, despite having been around almost 2 years before Students 2.0 was founded. And we certainly aren&#8217;t the first teens to blog. :P</p>
<p>I would say we have some degree of free time. However, I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s any more than anyone else on the list (the edublogesphere for that matter). We have almost exactly the same &#8220;work&#8221; hours as other edubloggers, except we&#8217;ve got 3 hours of homework, sports, extra-curriculars, and part-time jobs which cut into that free time.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/substantive-superficial-libelous/#comment-113578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Darren&lt;/strong&gt;, here&#039;s hoping the echo chamber can deal with some dissonance.

@&lt;strong&gt;Bill&lt;/strong&gt;, just so I haven&#039;t misrepresented myself, yeah, there are a lot of ways that list-making is trivial and irrelevant to the actual aims of blogging, but the idea that those at the top of these lists aren&#039;t worth emulating to some extent (whether their writing or depth of thought or community leadership) that they&#039;ve merely gamed some system is an blithely irresponsible stance for educators to take.

@&lt;strong&gt;Jethro&lt;/strong&gt;, your definition of &quot;consultant&quot; needs work, but you&#039;re probably right about &quot;first-movers&quot; and right, to an extent, about free time. The exception doesn&#039;t make the rule, though.  How would the cynics explain the presence of garden variety, single-credentialed, workaday teachers on the list?  How have &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; gamed the system?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Darren</strong>, here&#8217;s hoping the echo chamber can deal with some dissonance.</p>
<p>@<strong>Bill</strong>, just so I haven&#8217;t misrepresented myself, yeah, there are a lot of ways that list-making is trivial and irrelevant to the actual aims of blogging, but the idea that those at the top of these lists aren&#8217;t worth emulating to some extent (whether their writing or depth of thought or community leadership) that they&#8217;ve merely gamed some system is an blithely irresponsible stance for educators to take.</p>
<p>@<strong>Jethro</strong>, your definition of &#8220;consultant&#8221; needs work, but you&#8217;re probably right about &#8220;first-movers&#8221; and right, to an extent, about free time. The exception doesn&#8217;t make the rule, though.  How would the cynics explain the presence of garden variety, single-credentialed, workaday teachers on the list?  How have <em>they</em> gamed the system?</p>
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