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		By: anonymousflower		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I use this on my fourth graders too!  While the math, science, etc. are much simpler concepts, it is still &quot;new to them.&quot;  My phrase is, &quot;Are you sure?&quot; (with &quot;sure&quot; drawn out in a slightly southern drawl.  It always gets them thinking and rethinking.  And usually by the end of the year, they just say, &quot;Yep.&quot;  But for a good part of the year, it works well for me (and them) (Side note, it WAS more difficult the one year I looped, but new topics helped keep it working).  I find it builds not only confidence, but an easier path to discourse and discussion.  People can side for or against the answer, but it is more related back to me than the original student.  I have heard them use it on each other too (in science experiments :)) and in working math together.  It makes it more of a &quot;It&#039;s okay to be a risk - taker environment&quot; - because she will question my answer anyway!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this on my fourth graders too!  While the math, science, etc. are much simpler concepts, it is still &#8220;new to them.&#8221;  My phrase is, &#8220;Are you sure?&#8221; (with &#8220;sure&#8221; drawn out in a slightly southern drawl.  It always gets them thinking and rethinking.  And usually by the end of the year, they just say, &#8220;Yep.&#8221;  But for a good part of the year, it works well for me (and them) (Side note, it WAS more difficult the one year I looped, but new topics helped keep it working).  I find it builds not only confidence, but an easier path to discourse and discussion.  People can side for or against the answer, but it is more related back to me than the original student.  I have heard them use it on each other too (in science experiments :)) and in working math together.  It makes it more of a &#8220;It&#8217;s okay to be a risk &#8211; taker environment&#8221; &#8211; because she will question my answer anyway!!!!</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Christian&lt;/strong&gt;, I realize that the idea of a teacher&#039;s look sets your sage-on-the-stage siren a-blaring but I think you misunderstand.  Though a teacher issues the look, the look is designed to disentangle student response from teacher approval.  Issued well, it promotes autonomy not dependence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Christian</strong>, I realize that the idea of a teacher&#8217;s look sets your sage-on-the-stage siren a-blaring but I think you misunderstand.  Though a teacher issues the look, the look is designed to disentangle student response from teacher approval.  Issued well, it promotes autonomy not dependence.</p>
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		By: Christian Long		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over time I&#039;ve learned to let go of the teacher&#039;s &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; in order to embrace a decidedly more martial arts approach to managing student energy.  It&#039;s my simplistic effort to live up to Buckminster Fuller&#039;s engineering &lt;i&gt;&quot;Do not fight force.  Use force.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; mantra. 

As a 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teacher, I occasionally carried a beat-up tennis ball in my right hand during class conversations early in the year as we were getting to know one another.  You can picture it, I&#039;m sure:  

&lt;blockquote&gt;New hair-cut that is quite wet-behind-the-ears, one of 3 ties on and bulky pseudo dress shoes, sleeves rolled up in that &#039;working man&#039; teacher look, trying to &lt;i&gt;act&lt;/i&gt; like a real teacher in terms of position in the room and clever retorts, occasionally going for the &lt;i&gt;dancing monkey&lt;/i&gt; approach when all else failed instead. 

Just add a bouncing tennis ball in the dude&#039;s hand, and you&#039;ve got the picture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Admittedly, it was a &lt;i&gt;silly&lt;/i&gt; distraction at first.  Nothing more elegant than wanting something in my hand to futz around with as an early-year career trying to keep nerves/passion at bay, keeping an eye on the clock at the same time. 

Over time, however, it became something unexpectedly effective as I one day &lt;i&gt;randomly&lt;/i&gt; tossed it to a few  students I wanted to answer key discussion questions, especially the kids who were being too quiet (while not throwing it to the students who were talking too much).  The point was not about my students &lt;i&gt;catching it&lt;/i&gt; (although that helped keep things moving), but about they&#039;re being &lt;i&gt;prepared&lt;/i&gt; for the potential of my toss.  

Over time, students began &lt;i&gt;leaning forward&lt;/i&gt; (literally and figuratively), not only to catch the ball...

...but also to be always ready to &#039;respond&#039; with something coherent and meaningful coming off their tongue/brain.  

They figured out pretty licketty-split that being &#039;ready&#039; was key and anything that distracted them from showcasing that preparation would result in looking foolish (literally and figuratively) in front of everyone else.

Funny what a tennis ball can do.

Where the &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; once served a purpose in allowing me to presumably &lt;i&gt;hold&lt;/i&gt; firm my teacher&#039;s ground while reinforcing that I was fully &lt;i&gt;in control&lt;/i&gt;, the ball (and dozens of decidedly non-physical martial arts-like trickery in the years since) allowed the kids to re-direct their own energy in ways that were far more useful over time.  

Years later, kids would ask if I still threw the ball around class.  Years later, I didn&#039;t need to.   Something else even more subtle and less me-focused had replaced that side show trick as well.

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Oh, yeah. One more thing:

If they didn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;lean forwards&lt;/i&gt; and contribute in meaningful ways during such conversations?

Well, I&#039;d simply resort to giving them &lt;i&gt;the look&lt;/i&gt; and then tossing the tennis ball between the eyes. (&lt;i&gt;smile&lt;/i&gt;)

The Holy Teaching Trinity that never fails to work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over time I&#8217;ve learned to let go of the teacher&#8217;s <i>look</i> in order to embrace a decidedly more martial arts approach to managing student energy.  It&#8217;s my simplistic effort to live up to Buckminster Fuller&#8217;s engineering <i>&#8220;Do not fight force.  Use force.&#8221;</i> mantra. </p>
<p>As a 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teacher, I occasionally carried a beat-up tennis ball in my right hand during class conversations early in the year as we were getting to know one another.  You can picture it, I&#8217;m sure:  </p>
<blockquote><p>New hair-cut that is quite wet-behind-the-ears, one of 3 ties on and bulky pseudo dress shoes, sleeves rolled up in that &#8216;working man&#8217; teacher look, trying to <i>act</i> like a real teacher in terms of position in the room and clever retorts, occasionally going for the <i>dancing monkey</i> approach when all else failed instead. </p>
<p>Just add a bouncing tennis ball in the dude&#8217;s hand, and you&#8217;ve got the picture.</p></blockquote>
<p>Admittedly, it was a <i>silly</i> distraction at first.  Nothing more elegant than wanting something in my hand to futz around with as an early-year career trying to keep nerves/passion at bay, keeping an eye on the clock at the same time. </p>
<p>Over time, however, it became something unexpectedly effective as I one day <i>randomly</i> tossed it to a few  students I wanted to answer key discussion questions, especially the kids who were being too quiet (while not throwing it to the students who were talking too much).  The point was not about my students <i>catching it</i> (although that helped keep things moving), but about they&#8217;re being <i>prepared</i> for the potential of my toss.  </p>
<p>Over time, students began <i>leaning forward</i> (literally and figuratively), not only to catch the ball&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but also to be always ready to &#8216;respond&#8217; with something coherent and meaningful coming off their tongue/brain.  </p>
<p>They figured out pretty licketty-split that being &#8216;ready&#8217; was key and anything that distracted them from showcasing that preparation would result in looking foolish (literally and figuratively) in front of everyone else.</p>
<p>Funny what a tennis ball can do.</p>
<p>Where the <i>look</i> once served a purpose in allowing me to presumably <i>hold</i> firm my teacher&#8217;s ground while reinforcing that I was fully <i>in control</i>, the ball (and dozens of decidedly non-physical martial arts-like trickery in the years since) allowed the kids to re-direct their own energy in ways that were far more useful over time.  </p>
<p>Years later, kids would ask if I still threw the ball around class.  Years later, I didn&#8217;t need to.   Something else even more subtle and less me-focused had replaced that side show trick as well.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Oh, yeah. One more thing:</p>
<p>If they didn&#8217;t <i>lean forwards</i> and contribute in meaningful ways during such conversations?</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;d simply resort to giving them <i>the look</i> and then tossing the tennis ball between the eyes. (<i>smile</i>)</p>
<p>The Holy Teaching Trinity that never fails to work.</p>
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		By: That clueless look &#124; Sustainably Digital		</title>
		<link>/2008/the-first-fortnight/#comment-161988</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] right or wrong because you want them to think with their own brains, not with yours. As inspired by Dan Meyer, who has inspired a whole meme of clueless [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] right or wrong because you want them to think with their own brains, not with yours. As inspired by Dan Meyer, who has inspired a whole meme of clueless [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: John Larkin		</title>
		<link>/2008/the-first-fortnight/#comment-161900</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Per makes a point that is also relevant to the Australian situation. It is not that unusual in a secondary school to teach a number of students for up to four and perhaps six years. They know you and you know them. It works well.

With me it is WYSIWYG. I am too old to get &#039;burnt&#039; by a student these days and besides the students all know I can ever so subtly equalise the situation in a variety of different fashions. Admittedly we have great students at our school.

Today I assisted a new teacher with a techie problem as they looked after a replacement lesson for an absent teacher. After I bid farewell to the teacher and the class and left the room I overheard the new teacher say to the class, &quot;Year ten, it&#039;s either my way or the highway. You choose.&quot; I chuckled to myself as I walked away.

Dan, the oblivious approach is wise. Do not allow the attention seeker the pleasure of an audience.

Enjoyed this post, the comments and the photographs immensely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per makes a point that is also relevant to the Australian situation. It is not that unusual in a secondary school to teach a number of students for up to four and perhaps six years. They know you and you know them. It works well.</p>
<p>With me it is WYSIWYG. I am too old to get &#8216;burnt&#8217; by a student these days and besides the students all know I can ever so subtly equalise the situation in a variety of different fashions. Admittedly we have great students at our school.</p>
<p>Today I assisted a new teacher with a techie problem as they looked after a replacement lesson for an absent teacher. After I bid farewell to the teacher and the class and left the room I overheard the new teacher say to the class, &#8220;Year ten, it&#8217;s either my way or the highway. You choose.&#8221; I chuckled to myself as I walked away.</p>
<p>Dan, the oblivious approach is wise. Do not allow the attention seeker the pleasure of an audience.</p>
<p>Enjoyed this post, the comments and the photographs immensely.</p>
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		By: Rich		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;@Chris&lt;/b&gt; - Sadly I use that same &quot;look&quot; when I can no longer read the fine print anymore, and have to peer over my glasses to see what I&#039;m reading!

Believe it or not, this very day I had an 8th grade Algebra student who told me that I&#039;m the hardest teacher to &quot;read&quot; -- he said that he can usually figure out most of our other teachers by their response, but that I&#039;m too tricky.  He and his friends were quite amazed when I told them that I&#039;d had a conversation about exactly that thing yesterday (and even more amazed that it was with a teacher from the other side of the country!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Chris</b> &#8211; Sadly I use that same &#8220;look&#8221; when I can no longer read the fine print anymore, and have to peer over my glasses to see what I&#8217;m reading!</p>
<p>Believe it or not, this very day I had an 8th grade Algebra student who told me that I&#8217;m the hardest teacher to &#8220;read&#8221; &#8212; he said that he can usually figure out most of our other teachers by their response, but that I&#8217;m too tricky.  He and his friends were quite amazed when I told them that I&#8217;d had a conversation about exactly that thing yesterday (and even more amazed that it was with a teacher from the other side of the country!).</p>
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		By: Renee' Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My version for students was hmmmmm...... followed by a long pause. Very ambiguous and even the teachers I teach now can&#039;t read it.  It drives them as nuts as it did kids. It does make them think and try to prove they are correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My version for students was hmmmmm&#8230;&#8230; followed by a long pause. Very ambiguous and even the teachers I teach now can&#8217;t read it.  It drives them as nuts as it did kids. It does make them think and try to prove they are correct.</p>
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		By: Chris Lehmann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This comes in handy as a principal more than I can possibly explain.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherl/2842261586/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Look.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comes in handy as a principal more than I can possibly explain.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherl/2842261586/" rel="nofollow">The Look.</a></p>
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		By: Per		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Swedish system it is normal that you can follow the same group of students as they progress thru high school (3 years). So compared to the US I guess that relationship building with student is more of a long race and less of a sprint. I do intentionally learn my students a few tells on when I am pleased with the answer and when I am not but later on I will start mixing the signals to get the same effect you are talking about (to get the student to argue their point in front of a disbelief from the teacher)

This is my first year teaching in English (instead of my native Swedish) and I feel how much harder it is to get the interaction “just right” when you communication is a bit off. It is also emotionally draining with all new students, I missing having a group of seniors where I can go in to the class and feel at home, where the trust is built up and I know they will not misunderstand, where the rules of the game allready have been decided.

/Per]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Swedish system it is normal that you can follow the same group of students as they progress thru high school (3 years). So compared to the US I guess that relationship building with student is more of a long race and less of a sprint. I do intentionally learn my students a few tells on when I am pleased with the answer and when I am not but later on I will start mixing the signals to get the same effect you are talking about (to get the student to argue their point in front of a disbelief from the teacher)</p>
<p>This is my first year teaching in English (instead of my native Swedish) and I feel how much harder it is to get the interaction “just right” when you communication is a bit off. It is also emotionally draining with all new students, I missing having a group of seniors where I can go in to the class and feel at home, where the trust is built up and I know they will not misunderstand, where the rules of the game allready have been decided.</p>
<p>/Per</p>
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		By: Ian H.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marturia.net/offsite/me_004.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ORLY?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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