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		By: Deconstructing Skill Based Assessment &#124; Mr. Hamada's Universe		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-124110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deconstructing Skill Based Assessment &#124; Mr. Hamada's Universe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Dan has linked to a bunch of readers who have implemented skills based assessment derived from his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Dan has linked to a bunch of readers who have implemented skills based assessment derived from his [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-122228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;H.&lt;/strong&gt;, I found myself leaving a comment the other day clarifying your gender for another blogger.  Uf.  At least you coulda picked a more feminine initial?

@&lt;strong&gt;Alice&lt;/strong&gt;, criminy.  Can&#039;t believe they posted that one.  If ever I was gonna censor someone&#039;s comment ...

@&lt;strong&gt;Kate&lt;/strong&gt;, I&#039;d rather not. YouTube, as a video repository and social network, kinda bums me out.  You &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; get an unblocked and higher-res experience with the iPod edition, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>H.</strong>, I found myself leaving a comment the other day clarifying your gender for another blogger.  Uf.  At least you coulda picked a more feminine initial?</p>
<p>@<strong>Alice</strong>, criminy.  Can&#8217;t believe they posted that one.  If ever I was gonna censor someone&#8217;s comment &#8230;</p>
<p>@<strong>Kate</strong>, I&#8217;d rather not. YouTube, as a video repository and social network, kinda bums me out.  You <em>can</em> get an unblocked and higher-res experience with the iPod edition, though.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate,

And YouTube doesn&#039;t? Truly the e-rate filter gods are a fickle bunch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate,</p>
<p>And YouTube doesn&#8217;t? Truly the e-rate filter gods are a fickle bunch.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(after a pause for respectful silence)
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Dan any chance you can put your new videos on youtube?  Vimeo has a mysterious &quot;R Rating&quot; block at my school.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(after a pause for respectful silence)<br />
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Dan any chance you can put your new videos on youtube?  Vimeo has a mysterious &#8220;R Rating&#8221; block at my school.</p>
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		By: John Pederson		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Pederson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everybody quiet for a second.

This man just referenced one of my all time favorite moments in cinema.  Obscure.  Damn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody quiet for a second.</p>
<p>This man just referenced one of my all time favorite moments in cinema.  Obscure.  Damn.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, you also have a starring role in this video on the NECC Ning: http://www.necc2008.org/video/video/show?id=1997968%3AVideo%3A16933

Don&#039;t keep that one to yourself, lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you also have a starring role in this video on the NECC Ning: <a href="http://www.necc2008.org/video/video/show?id=1997968%3AVideo%3A16933" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.necc2008.org/video/video/show?id=1997968%3AVideo%3A16933</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t keep that one to yourself, lol.</p>
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		By: Liza Lee Miller		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liza Lee Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, yay!  I&#039;m really, really happy that you are staying in our district!  I&#039;ve shared your thoughts on assessing math with my elementary colleagues and they wanted to know why you were leaving the district.  I&#039;m really glad that you are not.  We are lucky and I&#039;m glad you got somethings you wanted too!  Besides, you don&#039;t want to leave Santa Cruz laid back for the hustle and bustle of The City.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yay!  I&#8217;m really, really happy that you are staying in our district!  I&#8217;ve shared your thoughts on assessing math with my elementary colleagues and they wanted to know why you were leaving the district.  I&#8217;m really glad that you are not.  We are lucky and I&#8217;m glad you got somethings you wanted too!  Besides, you don&#8217;t want to leave Santa Cruz laid back for the hustle and bustle of The City.</p>
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		By: H.		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[H. Aychison. I&#039;m still laughing, but, yeah, the anonymity thing is getting stupid. I&#039;m trying to decide to change that, but, I don&#039;t know, never mind. 

As for the not learning enough as the years add up, this side note: The past few weeks I&#039;ve been e-mailing a few math ed researchers in connection with finishing up the most improbably useful ed class I&#039;ve taken so far. I&#039;ve been asking questions about math specific learning disabilities, and one researcher writes back, listing some resources that look great and that I&#039;ll check out when I can access a good library after the vacation, and then adds: &lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m sorry not to have more to offer you, but at this point you are noticing things in your students that the research world has not yet gotten around to exploring.  You are very much on the cutting edge!&lt;/blockquote&gt; Now what I was asking about was nothing particularly unusual - definitely stuff my (admittedly above average geeky) math teacher colleagues would also discuss, and certainly nothing more complex than what &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mathsage.com/?p=163&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mr. K&lt;/a&gt; routinely dissects on his blog. It&#039;s just that there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://theline.edublogs.org/2008/04/25/postcards-from-the-ivory-tower/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;so little connection&lt;/a&gt; between those that are hired to know the literature and produce more of it, and those that work in classrooms.

I&#039;m wondering if there aren&#039;t ways of making more teacher-researcher interactions happen, in the interest of more learning across the board. And, your kind of assessment system might be particularly useful not only for helping students learn, but also for generating data of a kind that math ed researchers could use for teaching &lt;i&gt;us&lt;/i&gt; more.

Not sure that investigations in the intersection of cognitive psychology and math ed are what would make teaching more exciting for you in the long run - but maybe it could add interest for a few years - no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H. Aychison. I&#8217;m still laughing, but, yeah, the anonymity thing is getting stupid. I&#8217;m trying to decide to change that, but, I don&#8217;t know, never mind. </p>
<p>As for the not learning enough as the years add up, this side note: The past few weeks I&#8217;ve been e-mailing a few math ed researchers in connection with finishing up the most improbably useful ed class I&#8217;ve taken so far. I&#8217;ve been asking questions about math specific learning disabilities, and one researcher writes back, listing some resources that look great and that I&#8217;ll check out when I can access a good library after the vacation, and then adds: </p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m sorry not to have more to offer you, but at this point you are noticing things in your students that the research world has not yet gotten around to exploring.  You are very much on the cutting edge!</p></blockquote>
<p> Now what I was asking about was nothing particularly unusual &#8211; definitely stuff my (admittedly above average geeky) math teacher colleagues would also discuss, and certainly nothing more complex than what <a href="http://blog.mathsage.com/?p=163" rel="nofollow">Mr. K</a> routinely dissects on his blog. It&#8217;s just that there is <a href="http://theline.edublogs.org/2008/04/25/postcards-from-the-ivory-tower/" rel="nofollow">so little connection</a> between those that are hired to know the literature and produce more of it, and those that work in classrooms.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if there aren&#8217;t ways of making more teacher-researcher interactions happen, in the interest of more learning across the board. And, your kind of assessment system might be particularly useful not only for helping students learn, but also for generating data of a kind that math ed researchers could use for teaching <i>us</i> more.</p>
<p>Not sure that investigations in the intersection of cognitive psychology and math ed are what would make teaching more exciting for you in the long run &#8211; but maybe it could add interest for a few years &#8211; no?</p>
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		By: Jen		</title>
		<link>/2008/tying-loose-ends/#comment-121632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding footnote one:  I&#039;m trying to think of any career, involving skills and thought, for which that isn&#039;t true? 

I mean, for a lawyer, say, there may be a new regulation or law that provokes a lot of new learning (I&#039;m thinking when Sarbanes-Oxley hit and required a lot of retooling for corporate law types), or for a doctor there may be a new technique or a radically different treatment.  

But otherwise, in most professions, there is a basic pile of learning (and the learning to learn it that goes along with the pile) that takes place early in your career and after that, it&#039;s a search for new ideas, new techniques, info from other fields that can inform your teaching, etc.  that informs how much you learn and change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding footnote one:  I&#8217;m trying to think of any career, involving skills and thought, for which that isn&#8217;t true? </p>
<p>I mean, for a lawyer, say, there may be a new regulation or law that provokes a lot of new learning (I&#8217;m thinking when Sarbanes-Oxley hit and required a lot of retooling for corporate law types), or for a doctor there may be a new technique or a radically different treatment.  </p>
<p>But otherwise, in most professions, there is a basic pile of learning (and the learning to learn it that goes along with the pile) that takes place early in your career and after that, it&#8217;s a search for new ideas, new techniques, info from other fields that can inform your teaching, etc.  that informs how much you learn and change.</p>
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