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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-88103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Dan, I just can&#039;t resist. I&#039;m a BAAAAAD girl! I have a response to your new post coming up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Dan, I just can&#8217;t resist. I&#8217;m a BAAAAAD girl! I have a response to your new post coming up.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-88062</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I leave for the weekend and you people lose control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I leave for the weekend and you people lose control.</p>
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		<title>
		By: Benjamin Baxter		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-88017</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Baxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cringe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cringe.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-87923</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[or can you do it &quot;virtually&quot; anywhere?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or can you do it &#8220;virtually&#8221; anywhere?</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-87905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Baxter,
Do you have the professional qualifications to do that in your state, hmmm?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Baxter,<br />
Do you have the professional qualifications to do that in your state, hmmm?</p>
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		<title>
		By: Benjamin Baxter		</title>
		<link>/2008/wait-i-cant-just-teach-them-anything/#comment-87674</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Baxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what I&#039;m here for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m here for.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey! Benjamin Baxter gave me a sex-change, and I didn&#039;t even have to go to Europe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Benjamin Baxter gave me a sex-change, and I didn&#8217;t even have to go to Europe!</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For my part, I can&#039;t view that excerpt outside of my broader experience as an &lt;em&gt;NEA Today&lt;/em&gt; subscriber.  They are not getting the benefit of the doubt on this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part, I can&#8217;t view that excerpt outside of my broader experience as an <em>NEA Today</em> subscriber.  They are not getting the benefit of the doubt on this one.</p>
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		By: Jason Dyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Dyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;There will never be a meeting of the minds on this&lt;/em&gt;

It seems like the only major disagreement here is &quot;what&#039;s the message between the lines in this article?&quot; Since this is inherently based on subjective experience with similar situations (slippery slope no-standards cheerleading, or buzzword exhaustion?), I see why there&#039;s conflicting signals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>There will never be a meeting of the minds on this</em></p>
<p>It seems like the only major disagreement here is &#8220;what&#8217;s the message between the lines in this article?&#8221; Since this is inherently based on subjective experience with similar situations (slippery slope no-standards cheerleading, or buzzword exhaustion?), I see why there&#8217;s conflicting signals.</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This thread is really pissing me off, which means I&#039;m not at all objective about this, which is making me laugh (at myself). 

Look, you all are saying that the this is a statement against standards, and teaching standards. I think you are reading too much into the ambivalence of the teacher character in this story to &quot;power standards&quot; I think it&#039;s a statement against Orwellian edu-speak (power standards, scientifically proven effective instructional practices, etc.)

Folks like me fill in the blanks and see all the cruddy teaching practices we have to contort ourselves into because of testing demands. 

Maybe the lazy get to see what they want (stupid standards!), while the rest of us who are and do ground their practice in standards see standards based instruction abused (and being used to abuse us, and students).

As to the reasons for accountability, you see lazy colleagues who didn&#039;t bother teaching, which led to this. I see the class in Oakland that the principal deliberately placed with a series of short-term subs EVERY year they were in his elementary school (over the objections of the union rep) and did not separate them, and refused to entertain the idea of alternatively credentialing any of the subs who were willing to work the class.

There will never be a meeting of the minds on this, but I hope that folks see that just because someone twitches at the term &quot;power standard&quot; that doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;ve abandonned the idea teaching standards at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is really pissing me off, which means I&#8217;m not at all objective about this, which is making me laugh (at myself). </p>
<p>Look, you all are saying that the this is a statement against standards, and teaching standards. I think you are reading too much into the ambivalence of the teacher character in this story to &#8220;power standards&#8221; I think it&#8217;s a statement against Orwellian edu-speak (power standards, scientifically proven effective instructional practices, etc.)</p>
<p>Folks like me fill in the blanks and see all the cruddy teaching practices we have to contort ourselves into because of testing demands. </p>
<p>Maybe the lazy get to see what they want (stupid standards!), while the rest of us who are and do ground their practice in standards see standards based instruction abused (and being used to abuse us, and students).</p>
<p>As to the reasons for accountability, you see lazy colleagues who didn&#8217;t bother teaching, which led to this. I see the class in Oakland that the principal deliberately placed with a series of short-term subs EVERY year they were in his elementary school (over the objections of the union rep) and did not separate them, and refused to entertain the idea of alternatively credentialing any of the subs who were willing to work the class.</p>
<p>There will never be a meeting of the minds on this, but I hope that folks see that just because someone twitches at the term &#8220;power standard&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;ve abandonned the idea teaching standards at all.</p>
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