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		By: Nascent Vision of Technology IV: 21st Century Teachers &#171; Quantum Progress		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nascent Vision of Technology IV: 21st Century Teachers &#171; Quantum Progress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] top of the line laptops and giant sized monitors. What can you do? Here again, I think I can pull another lesson from Dan&#8217;s blog. The key is sharing. Sharing with colleagues at your school ins&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] top of the line laptops and giant sized monitors. What can you do? Here again, I think I can pull another lesson from Dan&#8217;s blog. The key is sharing. Sharing with colleagues at your school ins&#8217;t [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Angie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, I get your point.  I&#039;m a problem-solver, so forgive me if you don&#039;t want my ideas on this point.  I would find out who my in-class technology gurus were (hopefully at least a couple) and put them into groups to teach the other kids or to be project manager. Or I&#039;d ask the tech specialist to come in and teach a lesson on that stuff.  Hopefully a technology class is required for all kids, but, if it&#039;s not, maybe we can do a little to introduce them to the things that are out there.  A how-to paper on using a mouse?  

PS. Thanks for the great discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I get your point.  I&#8217;m a problem-solver, so forgive me if you don&#8217;t want my ideas on this point.  I would find out who my in-class technology gurus were (hopefully at least a couple) and put them into groups to teach the other kids or to be project manager. Or I&#8217;d ask the tech specialist to come in and teach a lesson on that stuff.  Hopefully a technology class is required for all kids, but, if it&#8217;s not, maybe we can do a little to introduce them to the things that are out there.  A how-to paper on using a mouse?  </p>
<p>PS. Thanks for the great discussion.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes you know a message won&#039;t go over well, but here we go.

Tech coordinators need to help us (teachers), to give us what we need, not what you tell us we need. 

The kids need to learn tech? Then give them classes designed for that. But...then the tech coordinators need to be tech teachers.

Honestly, the last thing a regular teacher needs is one more self-important non-teacher telling him what to do. And, in way too many cases... I&#039;ve said enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes you know a message won&#8217;t go over well, but here we go.</p>
<p>Tech coordinators need to help us (teachers), to give us what we need, not what you tell us we need. </p>
<p>The kids need to learn tech? Then give them classes designed for that. But&#8230;then the tech coordinators need to be tech teachers.</p>
<p>Honestly, the last thing a regular teacher needs is one more self-important non-teacher telling him what to do. And, in way too many cases&#8230; I&#8217;ve said enough.</p>
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		By: TMAO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMAO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my point: They don&#039;t know how to use technology. 

At the beginning of the year roughly half my kids were unable to turn on a computer. They hit the monitor button and waited. And waited. And waited. &quot;It doesn&#039;t want to turn on!&quot; they moaned. &quot;Try another strategy,&quot; I suggested, allowing the kids to teach me. There were no other strategies in their toolboxes. 

I&#039;m not kidding. It was carnage. 

They can&#039;t hit alt-ctrl-del to log-in. They can&#039;t double-click. They are such poor typers and spellers, they are unable to log-in to the online grade program, because they misspell their names, the shool&#039;s name, and screw-up the cap sensitivity of the log-in. 

Blogging? Powerpoint? Pod-casting? 

Um... 

So I go back. Can the time necessary to teach these skills be justified in the face of all else they need to learn? I chip away where I can, because I believe this is important, but the mountain is tall and time is ever short.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my point: They don&#8217;t know how to use technology. </p>
<p>At the beginning of the year roughly half my kids were unable to turn on a computer. They hit the monitor button and waited. And waited. And waited. &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t want to turn on!&#8221; they moaned. &#8220;Try another strategy,&#8221; I suggested, allowing the kids to teach me. There were no other strategies in their toolboxes. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not kidding. It was carnage. </p>
<p>They can&#8217;t hit alt-ctrl-del to log-in. They can&#8217;t double-click. They are such poor typers and spellers, they are unable to log-in to the online grade program, because they misspell their names, the shool&#8217;s name, and screw-up the cap sensitivity of the log-in. </p>
<p>Blogging? Powerpoint? Pod-casting? </p>
<p>Um&#8230; </p>
<p>So I go back. Can the time necessary to teach these skills be justified in the face of all else they need to learn? I chip away where I can, because I believe this is important, but the mountain is tall and time is ever short.</p>
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		By: Angie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By let the kids use it, I mean let it be an option, but not the only one.  Lessons I designed that required PowerPoint or required someother &quot;technology&quot; typically produced less-than-stellar results.  On the other hand, if I left it open and let the kids decide what to use (maybe giving technology suggestions), it&#039;s much more successful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By let the kids use it, I mean let it be an option, but not the only one.  Lessons I designed that required PowerPoint or required someother &#8220;technology&#8221; typically produced less-than-stellar results.  On the other hand, if I left it open and let the kids decide what to use (maybe giving technology suggestions), it&#8217;s much more successful.</p>
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		By: TMAO		</title>
		<link>/2008/your-20th-century-sales-pitch-of-a-21st-century-product/#comment-45625</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMAO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not for nothing, Angie, but that&#039;s the kind of approach that tends to have the opposite of its desired effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for nothing, Angie, but that&#8217;s the kind of approach that tends to have the opposite of its desired effect.</p>
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		By: Angie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TMAO,

Don&#039;t teach tech, let the kids use it.  They teach you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TMAO,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t teach tech, let the kids use it.  They teach you.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yet again, I&#039;m thinking:

&quot;Don&#039;t water the rocks.&quot;

What, perchance, maketh me think this way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet again, I&#8217;m thinking:</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t water the rocks.&#8221;</p>
<p>What, perchance, maketh me think this way?</p>
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		By: TMAO		</title>
		<link>/2008/your-20th-century-sales-pitch-of-a-21st-century-product/#comment-45440</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMAO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m the guy. 

I use my record player more than my i-pod. 

I don&#039;t know what an RSS is (are?)

I&#039;m smart and good at what I do. 

I&#039;m not a knee-jerk-this-won&#039;t-work-with-THESE-kids fellow, but I need to be convinced that the upfront time involved in tech, especially in teaching the usage of tech to my five-years-behind-grade-level, CELDT-2 7th &#038; 8th graders is gonna pay off. Seriously. Show me how and show me where, and then I&#039;ll go spread the good word. But you need to show me, and you better be good. 

You better be good because I&#039;ve sat through enough shit-ass PD time to choke a goat (or any other variety of hooved mammal). Also, I keep getting tech flyers in my box that suffer from awful design, and promise the acquisition of life- and classroom-changing skill sets with titles like &quot;A Picture DOES Say a 1,000 Words!&quot; and &quot;Say it with Thought Bubbles!&quot;

I&#039;m a gilted lover with trust issues. 

This ain&#039;t your fault, but you gotta deal with it. Not up for it? Cool, but then I&#039;m gonna keep on keeping on the way I do. This isn&#039;t laziness; it&#039;s resource allocation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the guy. </p>
<p>I use my record player more than my i-pod. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what an RSS is (are?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m smart and good at what I do. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a knee-jerk-this-won&#8217;t-work-with-THESE-kids fellow, but I need to be convinced that the upfront time involved in tech, especially in teaching the usage of tech to my five-years-behind-grade-level, CELDT-2 7th &amp; 8th graders is gonna pay off. Seriously. Show me how and show me where, and then I&#8217;ll go spread the good word. But you need to show me, and you better be good. </p>
<p>You better be good because I&#8217;ve sat through enough shit-ass PD time to choke a goat (or any other variety of hooved mammal). Also, I keep getting tech flyers in my box that suffer from awful design, and promise the acquisition of life- and classroom-changing skill sets with titles like &#8220;A Picture DOES Say a 1,000 Words!&#8221; and &#8220;Say it with Thought Bubbles!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a gilted lover with trust issues. </p>
<p>This ain&#8217;t your fault, but you gotta deal with it. Not up for it? Cool, but then I&#8217;m gonna keep on keeping on the way I do. This isn&#8217;t laziness; it&#8217;s resource allocation.</p>
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		By: Laelia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laelia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thought provoking post, but then again, since I&#039;ve discovered your blog (in the last month), I&#039;ve found most of your posts to be thought provoking (refreshing to say the least!).  I&#039;ve also pondered this issue and have reached a couple of conclusions:
1.  There is no ONE way to deal with this issue.  Some teachers work best w/ &#039;bottom up&#039;, others with &#039;top down&#039;, and yet others want to meet you on equal ground.
2.  Sometimes we techies need to step back and realize that not EVERYONE is as enthused by the latest and greatest widget as we are -- and guess what?!?  That&#039;s OK.....
3.  My 2008 resolution?  &#039;Reuse, reduce, and recycle&#039; -- in terms of technology and spend less time in front of my computer and more time in personal interactions so that I can discover what makes my &#039;clients&#039; (teachers &#038; students) tick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking post, but then again, since I&#8217;ve discovered your blog (in the last month), I&#8217;ve found most of your posts to be thought provoking (refreshing to say the least!).  I&#8217;ve also pondered this issue and have reached a couple of conclusions:<br />
1.  There is no ONE way to deal with this issue.  Some teachers work best w/ &#8216;bottom up&#8217;, others with &#8216;top down&#8217;, and yet others want to meet you on equal ground.<br />
2.  Sometimes we techies need to step back and realize that not EVERYONE is as enthused by the latest and greatest widget as we are &#8212; and guess what?!?  That&#8217;s OK&#8230;..<br />
3.  My 2008 resolution?  &#8216;Reuse, reduce, and recycle&#8217; &#8212; in terms of technology and spend less time in front of my computer and more time in personal interactions so that I can discover what makes my &#8216;clients&#8217; (teachers &amp; students) tick.</p>
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