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		By: TI-Inspire &#171; Andrew&#039;s Math Site		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TI-Inspire &#171; Andrew&#039;s Math Site]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8211; Dan Mayer writing on Asilomar #5: What Can We Do With This? [...]]]></description>
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		By: Three creative ways to use TI-Navigator &#171; The Number Warrior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three creative ways to use TI-Navigator &#171; The Number Warrior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8211; Dan Mayer writing on Asilomar #5: What Can We Do With This? [...]]]></description>
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		By: Jim D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Can anyone explain to me how graphing calculators are going to avoid getting crushed in the tightening vise between cell phones and netbooks?&lt;/i&gt;

I love my graphing calculator, and my TI-85 has been with me since Junior year of high school (a little over 17 years), BUT the crushing vice for me will eventually include a netbook with Mathematica, Matlab, PowerToy Calculator, SAGE, and/or Maxima installed on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can anyone explain to me how graphing calculators are going to avoid getting crushed in the tightening vise between cell phones and netbooks?</i></p>
<p>I love my graphing calculator, and my TI-85 has been with me since Junior year of high school (a little over 17 years), BUT the crushing vice for me will eventually include a netbook with Mathematica, Matlab, PowerToy Calculator, SAGE, and/or Maxima installed on it.</p>
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		By: Touzel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Touzel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[About the TI-calculators, I just can&#039;t believe that:
1. the technology is so dated
2. the cost is so high

I mean, the technology in a TI-84 Plus Silver Mega Titanium (I&#039;m half-joking with the name) is like 1% more advanced than the TIs I used in high school 16 years ago. And yet the price is still $100+. That&#039;s ridiculous. 

I teach IMP, so we do a lot with the calculators, and when I show stuff to the kids, you&#039;d think they were using an abacus. &quot;Why isn&#039;t the line straight?&quot; is a common question. Additionally, the kids want to know where the equal sign is and why when tracing a line on a graph the coordinates  displayed represent the points of the pixel and not the points on the line. They dig the capabilities of what the calculators can do, but are frustrated with using them.

I feel bad making them mandatory because I feel like I&#039;m upholding the TI monopoly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the TI-calculators, I just can&#8217;t believe that:<br />
1. the technology is so dated<br />
2. the cost is so high</p>
<p>I mean, the technology in a TI-84 Plus Silver Mega Titanium (I&#8217;m half-joking with the name) is like 1% more advanced than the TIs I used in high school 16 years ago. And yet the price is still $100+. That&#8217;s ridiculous. </p>
<p>I teach IMP, so we do a lot with the calculators, and when I show stuff to the kids, you&#8217;d think they were using an abacus. &#8220;Why isn&#8217;t the line straight?&#8221; is a common question. Additionally, the kids want to know where the equal sign is and why when tracing a line on a graph the coordinates  displayed represent the points of the pixel and not the points on the line. They dig the capabilities of what the calculators can do, but are frustrated with using them.</p>
<p>I feel bad making them mandatory because I feel like I&#8217;m upholding the TI monopoly.</p>
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		By: josh g.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am all in favor of the netbook / cell phone / iPod revolution wiping away the overpriced calculators, but I don&#039;t see anyone here coming up with a solution to the standardized tests problem.

My students aren&#039;t allowed to use any device capable of networking during a provincial exam.  The unfortunate truth is that unless the nature of those exams is turned on its head, I *need* to teach them how to solve things using the overpriced calculators because they&#039;re the only things left that are archaic enough to be offline.

(Which is not to say I won&#039;t teach them to use other technology as well, but it means they&#039;re stuck paying for it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all in favor of the netbook / cell phone / iPod revolution wiping away the overpriced calculators, but I don&#8217;t see anyone here coming up with a solution to the standardized tests problem.</p>
<p>My students aren&#8217;t allowed to use any device capable of networking during a provincial exam.  The unfortunate truth is that unless the nature of those exams is turned on its head, I *need* to teach them how to solve things using the overpriced calculators because they&#8217;re the only things left that are archaic enough to be offline.</p>
<p>(Which is not to say I won&#8217;t teach them to use other technology as well, but it means they&#8217;re stuck paying for it.)</p>
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		By: curmudgeon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I second the caveat about the St. Louis Arch.  I have a science and math supply catalog with some smart-alex &quot;Dr. Science&quot; guy on the cover with the Arch in the background.  The piece of paper he&#039;s holding has &quot;Ax^2 + Bx + C = 0&quot;.

Pathetic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the caveat about the St. Louis Arch.  I have a science and math supply catalog with some smart-alex &#8220;Dr. Science&#8221; guy on the cover with the Arch in the background.  The piece of paper he&#8217;s holding has &#8220;Ax^2 + Bx + C = 0&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		By: Bill Bradley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loev my netbook (got an Asus Eee about 2 years ago) and have been trying to talk our Technology people into getting some.  Since we are a low-income district I&#039;m trying to get a set as &quot;loaners&quot; that the students can check out from the library since many don&#039;t have computers at home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loev my netbook (got an Asus Eee about 2 years ago) and have been trying to talk our Technology people into getting some.  Since we are a low-income district I&#8217;m trying to get a set as &#8220;loaners&#8221; that the students can check out from the library since many don&#8217;t have computers at home.</p>
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		By: Steve Phelps		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Phelps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once netbooks take hold in schools, with the availability of free software such as GeoGebra, I do not see how calculators can hang on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once netbooks take hold in schools, with the availability of free software such as GeoGebra, I do not see how calculators can hang on.</p>
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		By: Mr. H		</title>
		<link>/2009/asilomar-5-what-can-we-do-with-this/#comment-252935</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Be careful with the St. Louis Arch example. There&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/65729.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;difference between a catenary and a parabola&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/England%20Photos/Gloucestershire,%20Bristol,%20Clifton%20Suspension%20Bridge%202.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suspension bridges&#039;&lt;/a&gt; cables follow a parabola whereas &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahtrap/1697953630/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hanging bridges&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wlym.com/~animations/part3/gap/chain.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hanging chains&lt;/a&gt; follow a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;catenary&lt;/a&gt;. Students probably won&#039;t appreciate the difference until 2nd or 3rd semester Calculus. For future civil engineers the distinction is important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful with the St. Louis Arch example. There&#8217;s a <a href="http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/65729.html" rel="nofollow">difference between a catenary and a parabola</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/England%20Photos/Gloucestershire,%20Bristol,%20Clifton%20Suspension%20Bridge%202.jpg" rel="nofollow">Suspension bridges&#8217;</a> cables follow a parabola whereas <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahtrap/1697953630/" rel="nofollow">hanging bridges</a> and <a href="http://www.wlym.com/~animations/part3/gap/chain.jpg" rel="nofollow">hanging chains</a> follow a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary" rel="nofollow">catenary</a>. Students probably won&#8217;t appreciate the difference until 2nd or 3rd semester Calculus. For future civil engineers the distinction is important.</p>
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		By: MrTeach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrTeach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have to agree about the use of the golf course in that situation.  Why not show a ground level view and duplicate the basketball shot with the golf shot?  In the end, this is the kind of thing that gets teachers moving towards your side but only because they are using pictures instead of textbook problems.  I can already picture the golf problem on a textbook page in my head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree about the use of the golf course in that situation.  Why not show a ground level view and duplicate the basketball shot with the golf shot?  In the end, this is the kind of thing that gets teachers moving towards your side but only because they are using pictures instead of textbook problems.  I can already picture the golf problem on a textbook page in my head.</p>
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