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		By: Cigotie's Mom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No problem.  You do sound like a great teacher that is really striving to teach our children.  That being said...Cigotie won&#039;t be going to SLVHS.  He has been in the Private school sector and will continue with that path.  I would love to place him in public school, but I don&#039;t see enough teachers like you who really, really have a passion to teach.  We have a Principle and teacher in our family and debated many a family dinner the pros and cons of senority vs. merit.  There&#039;s another topic for your blog.  Oh and yes, I do think quality teachers are underpaid.

The other interesting thing I got from the Cigotie blog is &quot;assumptions.&quot;  When you put yourself out on the public domain, you&#039;re fair game.  Cigotie&#039;s downfall hasn&#039;t been bad English teachers, we didn&#039;t pay 1k for his software and teachers at his school are well aware of his talents.  In fact, the Principle created a web design and HTML class with him in mind.  Cigotie even taught some classes in his Photo Shop class last year.
Besides his techno side, he&#039;s a fablous piano player, just won &quot;longest drive&quot; at the Middle School golf tourney and &quot;Player of the Year&quot; for his team.  He gets great grades and is really looking forward to High School.  Maybe you can invite him to SLVHS some time and share some technique with your students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem.  You do sound like a great teacher that is really striving to teach our children.  That being said&#8230;Cigotie won&#8217;t be going to SLVHS.  He has been in the Private school sector and will continue with that path.  I would love to place him in public school, but I don&#8217;t see enough teachers like you who really, really have a passion to teach.  We have a Principle and teacher in our family and debated many a family dinner the pros and cons of senority vs. merit.  There&#8217;s another topic for your blog.  Oh and yes, I do think quality teachers are underpaid.</p>
<p>The other interesting thing I got from the Cigotie blog is &#8220;assumptions.&#8221;  When you put yourself out on the public domain, you&#8217;re fair game.  Cigotie&#8217;s downfall hasn&#8217;t been bad English teachers, we didn&#8217;t pay 1k for his software and teachers at his school are well aware of his talents.  In fact, the Principle created a web design and HTML class with him in mind.  Cigotie even taught some classes in his Photo Shop class last year.<br />
Besides his techno side, he&#8217;s a fablous piano player, just won &#8220;longest drive&#8221; at the Middle School golf tourney and &#8220;Player of the Year&#8221; for his team.  He gets great grades and is really looking forward to High School.  Maybe you can invite him to SLVHS some time and share some technique with your students.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi &lt;strong&gt;Matthew, Matthew&#039;s mom&lt;/strong&gt;,

Thanks, first of all, for being cool with a bunch of strangers analyzing your work. As you can see from the comments, everyone agrees you have a strong technical baseline, good instincts, etc., and as Mom mentions, Matthew is only fourteen. I don&#039;t know if &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; could claim the kind of focus at age fourteen that I&#039;m looking for in Matthew&#039;s work.

That said, to Matthew, if I were your video production teacher (and, by the time you hit your sophomore year at SLVHS, it&#039;s possible I will be) I&#039;d love to see your strong SFX work integrated into a story. It&#039;s one thing to shoot a lightsaber fight and post it to YouTube. It&#039;s another thing to see that fight in the context of some Jedi fanfiction with interesting characters and a driving storyline. Have you tried any of that? Can you link something up?

Also, if I were your video production teacher, I&#039;d ask you every month (1) what was the last movie you saw, (2) did you like it or dislike it, and (3) specifically, &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt;.

Thanks, again, for adding to the commentary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <strong>Matthew, Matthew&#8217;s mom</strong>,</p>
<p>Thanks, first of all, for being cool with a bunch of strangers analyzing your work. As you can see from the comments, everyone agrees you have a strong technical baseline, good instincts, etc., and as Mom mentions, Matthew is only fourteen. I don&#8217;t know if <em>I</em> could claim the kind of focus at age fourteen that I&#8217;m looking for in Matthew&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>That said, to Matthew, if I were your video production teacher (and, by the time you hit your sophomore year at SLVHS, it&#8217;s possible I will be) I&#8217;d love to see your strong SFX work integrated into a story. It&#8217;s one thing to shoot a lightsaber fight and post it to YouTube. It&#8217;s another thing to see that fight in the context of some Jedi fanfiction with interesting characters and a driving storyline. Have you tried any of that? Can you link something up?</p>
<p>Also, if I were your video production teacher, I&#8217;d ask you every month (1) what was the last movie you saw, (2) did you like it or dislike it, and (3) specifically, <em>why</em>.</p>
<p>Thanks, again, for adding to the commentary.</p>
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		By: Matthew Helms (Cigotie)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Helms (Cigotie)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Dan Meyer!

I agree in everything you said. And I also see many kids online doing the same exact thing, as inspirations like Video CoPilot, Creative Cow, etc. And I also agree on how people are getting too sucked into a world, full of copying and project file manipulation, that they have lost all creativity themselves. 

It&#039;s a hard thing to change but it can be done :) 

Maybe I am not the best example to use. If you check some of the dates of my stuff from 2007, I was the origins of the ideas. Where people like Andrew Kramer make a tutorial about a year or so later. Such as Head Explosion Test, Hit by Car, etc. 

I am not proud of those works haha, but I&#039;m just trying to say, that we have inspired each other. 

I think Andrew Kramer is a marketing genius. By making a user/website interaction that people LIKE to use. And it provides results to show friends and family. But I wouldn&#039;t call yourself a Artist till you take the initiative for original work. 

If you would like to see my original work check out these: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T47bqFDtPOM&#038;fmt=22
http://vimeo.com/2176279
http://vimeo.com/1694962
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6TMGjH88Q&#038;fmt=18

-Matthew Helms

PS: The secret to getting applications, is a student discount. I email every company I purchase one, to make a deal if ones not already available. I got all of my applications for less than $300 each.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dan Meyer!</p>
<p>I agree in everything you said. And I also see many kids online doing the same exact thing, as inspirations like Video CoPilot, Creative Cow, etc. And I also agree on how people are getting too sucked into a world, full of copying and project file manipulation, that they have lost all creativity themselves. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a hard thing to change but it can be done :) </p>
<p>Maybe I am not the best example to use. If you check some of the dates of my stuff from 2007, I was the origins of the ideas. Where people like Andrew Kramer make a tutorial about a year or so later. Such as Head Explosion Test, Hit by Car, etc. </p>
<p>I am not proud of those works haha, but I&#8217;m just trying to say, that we have inspired each other. </p>
<p>I think Andrew Kramer is a marketing genius. By making a user/website interaction that people LIKE to use. And it provides results to show friends and family. But I wouldn&#8217;t call yourself a Artist till you take the initiative for original work. </p>
<p>If you would like to see my original work check out these: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T47bqFDtPOM&#038;fmt=22" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T47bqFDtPOM&#038;fmt=22</a></p>
<div class="embed-vimeo" style="text-align: center;"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/2176279" width="680" height="383" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div>
<div class="embed-vimeo" style="text-align: center;"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1694962" width="680" height="383" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6TMGjH88Q&#038;fmt=18" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6TMGjH88Q&#038;fmt=18</a></p>
<p>-Matthew Helms</p>
<p>PS: The secret to getting applications, is a student discount. I email every company I purchase one, to make a deal if ones not already available. I got all of my applications for less than $300 each.</p>
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		By: Cigotie's Mom		</title>
		<link>/2009/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-cigotie/#comment-228729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cigotie's Mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Cigotie&#039;s mom.  Interesting article I ran across about my son.  

I think most artists need to learn the basics before they can move on to free expression.  As I listen to him creating songs on the piano or self-teaching himself the guitar, I know that the artistic side of him is there.  Whether he ends up applying it to his visual effects, who knows?  He&#039;s only 14 and he may be on to something else by the end of the week.  I think he&#039;s into website development now and teaching himself programming languages.  What were you doing when you were 14?

I&#039;m not worried about Cigotie.  Sometimes he&#039;s a problem though :).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Cigotie&#8217;s mom.  Interesting article I ran across about my son.  </p>
<p>I think most artists need to learn the basics before they can move on to free expression.  As I listen to him creating songs on the piano or self-teaching himself the guitar, I know that the artistic side of him is there.  Whether he ends up applying it to his visual effects, who knows?  He&#8217;s only 14 and he may be on to something else by the end of the week.  I think he&#8217;s into website development now and teaching himself programming languages.  What were you doing when you were 14?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried about Cigotie.  Sometimes he&#8217;s a problem though :).</p>
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		By: Video Resources Including how to Download UTube Videos &#124; Eaton Educational Insights		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Video Resources Including how to Download UTube Videos &#124; Eaton Educational Insights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Â    Dan Meyer wonders if teaching How to make movies is enough to teach one to make art? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Â    Dan Meyer wonders if teaching How to make movies is enough to teach one to make art? [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Michelle TG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle TG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly, Dan, speaking as an elem ed person, I think the problem goes WAY back to the kid&#039;s first writing experiences in the lower grades. 

Too many kids are NOT allowed to write for themselves/&quot;tell their own stories&quot; in elementary schools, but instead are taught how to RESPOND to a prompt from the very EARLY ages.  

Seriously, there are BOOKS full of writing &quot;prompts&quot; at the teacher stores. Scary, I know! Teachers buy them because THEY don&#039;t understand how to teach kids to WRITE, so they end up just teaching kids how to RESPOND.

If this kiddo is in middle school, he probably is still looking for the teacher to tell him what he should write about/create next. 

Too many people spend their lives waiting for someone to TELL them what to do next. Think about how many educators just RESPOND instead of create.  

ANYWAY, looks like THIS kiddo will find a way to create his own story.  At least he&#039;s TRYING to create now. He&#039;ll get bored and move on to his OWN imagination next.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Dan, speaking as an elem ed person, I think the problem goes WAY back to the kid&#8217;s first writing experiences in the lower grades. </p>
<p>Too many kids are NOT allowed to write for themselves/&#8221;tell their own stories&#8221; in elementary schools, but instead are taught how to RESPOND to a prompt from the very EARLY ages.  </p>
<p>Seriously, there are BOOKS full of writing &#8220;prompts&#8221; at the teacher stores. Scary, I know! Teachers buy them because THEY don&#8217;t understand how to teach kids to WRITE, so they end up just teaching kids how to RESPOND.</p>
<p>If this kiddo is in middle school, he probably is still looking for the teacher to tell him what he should write about/create next. </p>
<p>Too many people spend their lives waiting for someone to TELL them what to do next. Think about how many educators just RESPOND instead of create.  </p>
<p>ANYWAY, looks like THIS kiddo will find a way to create his own story.  At least he&#8217;s TRYING to create now. He&#8217;ll get bored and move on to his OWN imagination next.</p>
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		By: Crafts and Art Part II &#124; Reflections on Teaching		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crafts and Art Part II &#124; Reflections on Teaching]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] is the second part of post on Arts vs. Craft that came out of recent post from Dan Meyer, dy/dan Â» Blog Archive Â» How Do You Solve A Problem Like Cigotie? The post asks should we be satisfied with students who are great at &#8220;copying&#8221; the work [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is the second part of post on Arts vs. Craft that came out of recent post from Dan Meyer, dy/dan Â» Blog Archive Â» How Do You Solve A Problem Like Cigotie? The post asks should we be satisfied with students who are great at &#8220;copying&#8221; the work [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Reconsidering Crafts &#124; Reflections on Teaching		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reconsidering Crafts &#124; Reflections on Teaching]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] just never got around to posting about have found their compliment in a recent post from Dan Meyer, dy/dan Â» Blog Archive Â» How Do You Solve A Problem Like Cigotie? The post asks should we be satisfied with students who are great at &#8220;copying&#8221; the work [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] just never got around to posting about have found their compliment in a recent post from Dan Meyer, dy/dan Â» Blog Archive Â» How Do You Solve A Problem Like Cigotie? The post asks should we be satisfied with students who are great at &#8220;copying&#8221; the work [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Carl Anderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am reminded of a quote I heard once from a famous film director whose name currently escapes me:  &quot;If you want to make movies don&#039;t major in film in college, major in what you want to make films about.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of a quote I heard once from a famous film director whose name currently escapes me:  &#8220;If you want to make movies don&#8217;t major in film in college, major in what you want to make films about.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Scott McLeod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott McLeod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I concur. Of course I also wonder if his teachers ever had those &#039;older tools&#039; to begin with. Thinking about the vast numbers of educators that I&#039;ve worked with, I&#039;m guessing most teachers never have. Why would they? It&#039;s only in the past few years that these tools really have been available to the masses. Who would have trained them to use these tools professionally, productively, and/or powerfully? School districts? Universities? Nope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur. Of course I also wonder if his teachers ever had those &#8216;older tools&#8217; to begin with. Thinking about the vast numbers of educators that I&#8217;ve worked with, I&#8217;m guessing most teachers never have. Why would they? It&#8217;s only in the past few years that these tools really have been available to the masses. Who would have trained them to use these tools professionally, productively, and/or powerfully? School districts? Universities? Nope.</p>
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