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		By: You Are Your Own Laser Blender at Bionic Teaching		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You Are Your Own Laser Blender at Bionic Teaching]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] take Dan&#8217;s video which says what he means much better than his later post3. dy/av : 009 : don&#8217;t be prez from Dan Meyer on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] take Dan&#8217;s video which says what he means much better than his later post3. dy/av : 009 : don&#8217;t be prez from Dan Meyer on [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Scott McLeod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott McLeod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, you know I love you but...   =)

1. Don&#039;t snark? Aren&#039;t you often the king (or at least the prince) of snark?

&quot;I find myself gut-checking myself before I post anything or even sit down to write, wondering who will come out of the woodwork interested only in pushing me off balance. Speaking creatively and intellectually, comments here are an unhealthy diet. I think if I can’t reconcile their value, I need to a) ignore them entirely or b) shut them off.&quot;

2. Hey, the Social Web&#039;s a rough and tumble place. Hearing folks say that your post is &#039;ho hum,&#039; that you&#039;re &#039;dangerously innumerate,&#039; or worse is no fun sometimes but also can be good for one&#039;s ego. When did you get such a thin skin? Marriage isn&#039;t turning you soft, is it?

P.S. My tags suck. Don&#039;t even bother looking for them...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you know I love you but&#8230;   =)</p>
<p>1. Don&#8217;t snark? Aren&#8217;t you often the king (or at least the prince) of snark?</p>
<p>&#8220;I find myself gut-checking myself before I post anything or even sit down to write, wondering who will come out of the woodwork interested only in pushing me off balance. Speaking creatively and intellectually, comments here are an unhealthy diet. I think if I can’t reconcile their value, I need to a) ignore them entirely or b) shut them off.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. Hey, the Social Web&#8217;s a rough and tumble place. Hearing folks say that your post is &#8216;ho hum,&#8217; that you&#8217;re &#8216;dangerously innumerate,&#8217; or worse is no fun sometimes but also can be good for one&#8217;s ego. When did you get such a thin skin? Marriage isn&#8217;t turning you soft, is it?</p>
<p>P.S. My tags suck. Don&#8217;t even bother looking for them&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ian H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I figured if I came back, the comments would be worth it... I wasn&#039;t sure what you were getting at either.  Maybe it was the anal retentiveness of tagging 37 websites with over 1500 tags, which I found amusing more than anything else.  As for me, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/fall-apart&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my tags&lt;/a&gt; do reflect my interests, top among them being education, design and photography.  However, there is, as Morgante pointed out, a long tail to tags, so I have more items not tagged &quot;Education&quot; than I have with that tag...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured if I came back, the comments would be worth it&#8230; I wasn&#8217;t sure what you were getting at either.  Maybe it was the anal retentiveness of tagging 37 websites with over 1500 tags, which I found amusing more than anything else.  As for me, <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/fall-apart" rel="nofollow">my tags</a> do reflect my interests, top among them being education, design and photography.  However, there is, as Morgante pointed out, a long tail to tags, so I have more items not tagged &#8220;Education&#8221; than I have with that tag&#8230;</p>
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		By: A. Mercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Mercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I think this is getting WAY to intense. Look this post doesn&#039;t &quot;sing&quot; to me, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;re out in left field either.  Please don&#039;t take this personally. 

I think your general point, teachers need to read more than just stuff related to their profession is a good point. I&#039;ve been in two fields, business and education. There were a lot of business majors at my undergrad college similar to the folks I ended up working with in banking. They were a pretty incurious bunch. There were a few of us with Liberal Arts type degrees (I had one boss who had majored in Geography and another that did French before she got her MBA). I did not have tons of intellectual discussions in the break room. Fast forward to teaching. Some of my colleagues do read novels, but I&#039;ve run across a some like my old college friend&#039;s former in-laws. Dad was an elementary principal, they had NO books in the house except the Bible, and no other reading material besides Christian Life magazine. That&#039;s sad. Even an interest in crafts and knitting (I like the later) would show some creativity. I don&#039;t want to be that principal, and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good if most educators are like that. 

I think that was your general point, if I&#039;m mistaken, I apologize. I think the delicious tag metaphor was a bit limiting, but hey you can bowl a strike every time or for every reader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think this is getting WAY to intense. Look this post doesn&#8217;t &#8220;sing&#8221; to me, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re out in left field either.  Please don&#8217;t take this personally. </p>
<p>I think your general point, teachers need to read more than just stuff related to their profession is a good point. I&#8217;ve been in two fields, business and education. There were a lot of business majors at my undergrad college similar to the folks I ended up working with in banking. They were a pretty incurious bunch. There were a few of us with Liberal Arts type degrees (I had one boss who had majored in Geography and another that did French before she got her MBA). I did not have tons of intellectual discussions in the break room. Fast forward to teaching. Some of my colleagues do read novels, but I&#8217;ve run across a some like my old college friend&#8217;s former in-laws. Dad was an elementary principal, they had NO books in the house except the Bible, and no other reading material besides Christian Life magazine. That&#8217;s sad. Even an interest in crafts and knitting (I like the later) would show some creativity. I don&#8217;t want to be that principal, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s good if most educators are like that. </p>
<p>I think that was your general point, if I&#8217;m mistaken, I apologize. I think the delicious tag metaphor was a bit limiting, but hey you can bowl a strike every time or for every reader.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;d probably be prudent to let this whole thing pass by but the deal with comments is this:

I prefer dissent to agreement. But preferable to both of these is &lt;em&gt;expansive&lt;/em&gt; dissent and &lt;em&gt;expansive&lt;/em&gt; agreement, the opposites of which are, respectively, snarky nitpicking and mindless backpatting, neither of which do anything, intellectually, to get me off.

What&#039;s killing my buzz lately is the subsection of dissenting commenters who &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; come by to dissent, though even this isn&#039;t so bad. Tom Hoffman&#039;s unique purpose around these parts is to stop by and tell me I&#039;m full of shit but Tom does me some service here by:

a) disagreeing with the thesis I &lt;em&gt;intended&lt;/em&gt;, not a straw man he imagined;
b) expanding on his own argument with either i) a helpful hyperlink, ii) a few sentences analyzing or expanding on his own counterargument, iii) on occasion, a follow-up post on his blog.

I&#039;m not interested in chasing anybody away here but if ground rules like 1) don&#039;t snark; 2) don&#039;t nitpick; 3) don&#039;t set straw men ablaze; 4) be useful; are too stringent, please, by all means, invest your time and comments somewhere else. And I know that a great many people and bloggers value Ken&#039;s constructive commentary, commentary which I have found he chooses to withhold in this forum more often than not.

Time was, comments pushed me forward, inspired my follow-up posts. Lately, though, it&#039;s the opposite; they &lt;em&gt;impede&lt;/em&gt; my writing. I find myself gut-checking myself before I post anything or even sit down to write, wondering who will come out of the woodwork interested only in pushing me off balance. Speaking creatively and intellectually, comments here are an unhealthy diet. I think if I can&#039;t reconcile their value, I need to a) ignore them entirely or b) shut them off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d probably be prudent to let this whole thing pass by but the deal with comments is this:</p>
<p>I prefer dissent to agreement. But preferable to both of these is <em>expansive</em> dissent and <em>expansive</em> agreement, the opposites of which are, respectively, snarky nitpicking and mindless backpatting, neither of which do anything, intellectually, to get me off.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s killing my buzz lately is the subsection of dissenting commenters who <em>only</em> come by to dissent, though even this isn&#8217;t so bad. Tom Hoffman&#8217;s unique purpose around these parts is to stop by and tell me I&#8217;m full of shit but Tom does me some service here by:</p>
<p>a) disagreeing with the thesis I <em>intended</em>, not a straw man he imagined;<br />
b) expanding on his own argument with either i) a helpful hyperlink, ii) a few sentences analyzing or expanding on his own counterargument, iii) on occasion, a follow-up post on his blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in chasing anybody away here but if ground rules like 1) don&#8217;t snark; 2) don&#8217;t nitpick; 3) don&#8217;t set straw men ablaze; 4) be useful; are too stringent, please, by all means, invest your time and comments somewhere else. And I know that a great many people and bloggers value Ken&#8217;s constructive commentary, commentary which I have found he chooses to withhold in this forum more often than not.</p>
<p>Time was, comments pushed me forward, inspired my follow-up posts. Lately, though, it&#8217;s the opposite; they <em>impede</em> my writing. I find myself gut-checking myself before I post anything or even sit down to write, wondering who will come out of the woodwork interested only in pushing me off balance. Speaking creatively and intellectually, comments here are an unhealthy diet. I think if I can&#8217;t reconcile their value, I need to a) ignore them entirely or b) shut them off.</p>
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		By: jeffreygene		</title>
		<link>/2009/how-to-be-a-boring-teacher/#comment-212953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeffreygene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[my hypothesis is that there&#039;s a bit of history here, a pattern in ken&#039;s comments, which dan is reacting to. because i can&#039;t read what ken wrote in the same light as what dan interpreted.

again, i figure that there must be more to this because i so rarely find myself disagreeing with you, dan. i know i&#039;m not so active usually in comment threads, but i&#039;ve been lurking here continuously since that four slide contest way back when.  i enjoy your honesty and passion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my hypothesis is that there&#8217;s a bit of history here, a pattern in ken&#8217;s comments, which dan is reacting to. because i can&#8217;t read what ken wrote in the same light as what dan interpreted.</p>
<p>again, i figure that there must be more to this because i so rarely find myself disagreeing with you, dan. i know i&#8217;m not so active usually in comment threads, but i&#8217;ve been lurking here continuously since that four slide contest way back when.  i enjoy your honesty and passion.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You really have a mean streak in you, don&#039;t you Dan?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really have a mean streak in you, don&#8217;t you Dan?</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And I guess this is where we part ways.

Good luck with your book.  You&#039;re a talented writer, and apparently, either too esoteric for me, or I bring meaningless and tangential analysis to all the wrong parties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I guess this is where we part ways.</p>
<p>Good luck with your book.  You&#8217;re a talented writer, and apparently, either too esoteric for me, or I bring meaningless and tangential analysis to all the wrong parties.</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My classes go so much better when I wax a bit about totally random stuff. Like when I tell the kids about the green dog that I saw in Chicago this weekend. Anything that makes me not seem like the loser robot of equations tends to make kids feel happier and more engaged when they get down to 15 - 403 odd for the homework.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My classes go so much better when I wax a bit about totally random stuff. Like when I tell the kids about the green dog that I saw in Chicago this weekend. Anything that makes me not seem like the loser robot of equations tends to make kids feel happier and more engaged when they get down to 15 &#8211; 403 odd for the homework.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What tags do you want to see? Should school districts peruse tags to determine if candidates are interesting, diverse, and dynamic?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s hard not to skim past comments bylined &quot;&lt;strong&gt;ken&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; when you insist, as a matter of policy, on inflating any broad-pointed thesis of mine past the point of absurdity.

The answer to both your questions should be evident to anyone who didn&#039;t come here bent toward the contrary: &quot;I dunno.&quot; Should I apologize also for not considering how this single wordless post should inform national policy on teacher retention and pay?  Is this sort of sniping really fun for you?

On the other hand, I &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; be interested in your soberminded assessment of my &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=3176#comment-212707&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two suppositions&lt;/a&gt; above, which make it pretty obvious I&#039;m not aiming at national policymaking here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What tags do you want to see? Should school districts peruse tags to determine if candidates are interesting, diverse, and dynamic?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s hard not to skim past comments bylined &#8220;<strong>ken</strong>&#8221; when you insist, as a matter of policy, on inflating any broad-pointed thesis of mine past the point of absurdity.</p>
<p>The answer to both your questions should be evident to anyone who didn&#8217;t come here bent toward the contrary: &#8220;I dunno.&#8221; Should I apologize also for not considering how this single wordless post should inform national policy on teacher retention and pay?  Is this sort of sniping really fun for you?</p>
<p>On the other hand, I <em>would</em> be interested in your soberminded assessment of my <a href="/?p=3176#comment-212707" rel="nofollow">two suppositions</a> above, which make it pretty obvious I&#8217;m not aiming at national policymaking here.</p>
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