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		By: vlorbik		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;awesome, and feels like a close cousin to What Can You Do With This?&quot;

he said modestly.  (great post.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;awesome, and feels like a close cousin to What Can You Do With This?&#8221;</p>
<p>he said modestly.  (great post.)</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Peter&lt;/strong&gt; &amp; &lt;strong&gt;TheInfamousJ&lt;/strong&gt;, it&#039;s true that I have certain software preferences and while GIMP might be able to reproduce a lot of Photoshop&#039;s capability I haven&#039;t seen much in the open source community to rival Final Cut Pro or Keynote. I suppose I&#039;m just not ideological enough to make the sacrifice.

True story, though: more than a few people were pissed at all the presenters using Mac OS / Keynote at an open source conference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Peter</strong> &#038; <strong>TheInfamousJ</strong>, it&#8217;s true that I have certain software preferences and while GIMP might be able to reproduce a lot of Photoshop&#8217;s capability I haven&#8217;t seen much in the open source community to rival Final Cut Pro or Keynote. I suppose I&#8217;m just not ideological enough to make the sacrifice.</p>
<p>True story, though: more than a few people were pissed at all the presenters using Mac OS / Keynote at an open source conference.</p>
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		By: The Winsome Scholar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Right-Click Synonym Trick Problem is One of Miscommunication, Not Stupidity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Winsome Scholar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Right-Click Synonym Trick Problem is One of Miscommunication, Not Stupidity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] link to dy/dan (one of my favorite teacher blogs) linked to Revealing Errors, which had a post on a similar [...]]]></description>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Understandable awe. His work is sharp.

Regarding &quot;beautiful presentations&quot; though, at what point do we accept some sacrifice of beauty/functionality in order to promote social solidarity? As Dan says, he teaches citizens not workers. If I understand what Dan means by juxtaposing those terms, then Free Software licensing is for citizens while proprietary licensing is for workers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understandable awe. His work is sharp.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;beautiful presentations&#8221; though, at what point do we accept some sacrifice of beauty/functionality in order to promote social solidarity? As Dan says, he teaches citizens not workers. If I understand what Dan means by juxtaposing those terms, then Free Software licensing is for citizens while proprietary licensing is for workers.</p>
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		By: TheInfamousJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Peter - I&#039;m an educator who uses Linux and am constantly in awe of Dan&#039;s graphic design abilities. I think the day that OpenOffice(dot org) can produce as beautiful presentations as Keynote will be the day that Dan switches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter &#8211; I&#8217;m an educator who uses Linux and am constantly in awe of Dan&#8217;s graphic design abilities. I think the day that OpenOffice(dot org) can produce as beautiful presentations as Keynote will be the day that Dan switches.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&lt;i&gt;But even when proprietary software works perfectly, exactly the way proprietary software engineers want them to, they don&#039;t work perfectly the way the users want them to.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

That pretty much nails though it should be understood that even if proprietary software does what users want at a given point in time, should that change in the future (which is pretty much inevitable) then users are helpless and divided.

Maybe one day we&#039;ll read on your blog of a transition from the proprietary Mac OS to something like GNU/Linux? I&#039;ve never really asked you about this as I&#039;m aware you&#039;re big into video creation/editing - which has been a very weak area for free software. Though, I&#039;m hearing it has gotten much better over the past few years.

Glad to hear you valued Hill&#039;s talk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>But even when proprietary software works perfectly, exactly the way proprietary software engineers want them to, they don&#8217;t work perfectly the way the users want them to.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>That pretty much nails though it should be understood that even if proprietary software does what users want at a given point in time, should that change in the future (which is pretty much inevitable) then users are helpless and divided.</p>
<p>Maybe one day we&#8217;ll read on your blog of a transition from the proprietary Mac OS to something like GNU/Linux? I&#8217;ve never really asked you about this as I&#8217;m aware you&#8217;re big into video creation/editing &#8211; which has been a very weak area for free software. Though, I&#8217;m hearing it has gotten much better over the past few years.</p>
<p>Glad to hear you valued Hill&#8217;s talk.</p>
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		By: Dave Pawson (dpawson) 's status on Sunday, 02-Aug-09 04:19:08 UTC - Identi.ca		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: JasonP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If there is a student version of this, it might be what one of my 11th grade writing teaching colleagues and I call &quot;unteaching.&quot;  We unteach some practices in students that were learned in lower grades as writing crutches to help them organize their thoughts (stock sentences and writing structures or essays with this &quot;must look like this mentality&quot;) but now inhibit creative student thought as they grow older and more mature.  

This post just made me think of those student &quot;anitfeatures&quot;.  We as educators have to be forward-thinking enough to see what out teaching culture could do to a student&#039;s mind 2-3 years a road when out practices might be outdated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a student version of this, it might be what one of my 11th grade writing teaching colleagues and I call &#8220;unteaching.&#8221;  We unteach some practices in students that were learned in lower grades as writing crutches to help them organize their thoughts (stock sentences and writing structures or essays with this &#8220;must look like this mentality&#8221;) but now inhibit creative student thought as they grow older and more mature.  </p>
<p>This post just made me think of those student &#8220;anitfeatures&#8221;.  We as educators have to be forward-thinking enough to see what out teaching culture could do to a student&#8217;s mind 2-3 years a road when out practices might be outdated.</p>
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		By: Mr. K.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In education, it may be more worth looking at &lt;a href=&quot;http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AntiPattern&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;anti patterms&lt;/a&gt;.. All of the examples above actually do what they are supposed to. It&#039;s just that what it&#039;s supposed to do is not actually helping the customer.

In education, it really seems that people have the best of intentions. The problem is that there is little validation of whatever gets done, aside from a positive feeing about it on the part of the implementers.

It is also worth noting that 15 years ago, when the pattern thing was just getting its wings, the very concept of anti patterns were frowned upon, since patterns were supposed to identify and collect best practices, and collecting bad examples seemed counter to that cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In education, it may be more worth looking at <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AntiPattern" rel="nofollow">anti patterms</a>.. All of the examples above actually do what they are supposed to. It&#8217;s just that what it&#8217;s supposed to do is not actually helping the customer.</p>
<p>In education, it really seems that people have the best of intentions. The problem is that there is little validation of whatever gets done, aside from a positive feeing about it on the part of the implementers.</p>
<p>It is also worth noting that 15 years ago, when the pattern thing was just getting its wings, the very concept of anti patterns were frowned upon, since patterns were supposed to identify and collect best practices, and collecting bad examples seemed counter to that cause.</p>
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