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		By: Meta-Reflection; Standard-T &#171; Mpemb1&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Philip Cooke		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-271134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Cooke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great conversation - some of the comments echo my own desire as a teacher to have a free, searchable library to choose from the greatest classroom activities, not lessons, shared by teachers around the world. 

We built a website from scratch (www.edufy.org) that does everything we need (no ads). It looks like we addressed the following hopes from this post:
-ratings by the community, best activities rise to the top of search
-modular/flexible so they can be added to existing lessons, instead of replacing them or pulling out the parts that are needed.
-see the activity/overview in list view without the need to open it
-insert images into the activity
-comments on activities, which could include alternatives/ suggestions are seen at the top)
-creative commons licensing 
-I originally wanted the wiki model, but we&#039;re starting off with giving the option to duplicate activity and add to it, or distill multiple similar activities into one super-activity. The search is designed to be more sensitive to the latest versions.

Here&#039;s some other functions we have that are really useful:
-search by/filter on relevant educational criteria (grade, stage of the lesson (engage, explore, extension, etc) learning style, ability level, duration, etc)
-click to hide any parts of the learning activity that you don&#039;t want

Functions that are top on our list to add:
1-Print student or teacher versions
2-from the activity, have a menu of attachments that can be downloaded
3-My Favorites tabs
4-comments are also rated, so the most useful, highest rated alternates/ suggestions are seen at the top

Future functions:
-videos as previews, shared by people who have tried it
-samples of student work, to know what to expect
-if you like an author&#039;s work, see what else they&#039;ve worked on
-question banks that can be shared and uploaded into LMS like Blackboard, Moodle, etc.

Since introducing this at the Baltimore NSTA conference on Nov 11th, 130+ teachers joined in. There is no &quot;real&quot; line between Math and Chemistry and History, so we don&#039;t offer a &quot;subject&quot; filter. I teach Earth Science and Physics, so we focused on science to start. There isn&#039;t much Math there now. However, if 100,000 teachers start sharing best ideas… it shouldn&#039;t take long before there&#039;s something for everyone on every topic, right?

Best wishes,
Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great conversation &#8211; some of the comments echo my own desire as a teacher to have a free, searchable library to choose from the greatest classroom activities, not lessons, shared by teachers around the world. </p>
<p>We built a website from scratch (www.edufy.org) that does everything we need (no ads). It looks like we addressed the following hopes from this post:<br />
-ratings by the community, best activities rise to the top of search<br />
-modular/flexible so they can be added to existing lessons, instead of replacing them or pulling out the parts that are needed.<br />
-see the activity/overview in list view without the need to open it<br />
-insert images into the activity<br />
-comments on activities, which could include alternatives/ suggestions are seen at the top)<br />
-creative commons licensing<br />
-I originally wanted the wiki model, but we&#8217;re starting off with giving the option to duplicate activity and add to it, or distill multiple similar activities into one super-activity. The search is designed to be more sensitive to the latest versions.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some other functions we have that are really useful:<br />
-search by/filter on relevant educational criteria (grade, stage of the lesson (engage, explore, extension, etc) learning style, ability level, duration, etc)<br />
-click to hide any parts of the learning activity that you don&#8217;t want</p>
<p>Functions that are top on our list to add:<br />
1-Print student or teacher versions<br />
2-from the activity, have a menu of attachments that can be downloaded<br />
3-My Favorites tabs<br />
4-comments are also rated, so the most useful, highest rated alternates/ suggestions are seen at the top</p>
<p>Future functions:<br />
-videos as previews, shared by people who have tried it<br />
-samples of student work, to know what to expect<br />
-if you like an author&#8217;s work, see what else they&#8217;ve worked on<br />
-question banks that can be shared and uploaded into LMS like Blackboard, Moodle, etc.</p>
<p>Since introducing this at the Baltimore NSTA conference on Nov 11th, 130+ teachers joined in. There is no &#8220;real&#8221; line between Math and Chemistry and History, so we don&#8217;t offer a &#8220;subject&#8221; filter. I teach Earth Science and Physics, so we focused on science to start. There isn&#8217;t much Math there now. However, if 100,000 teachers start sharing best ideas… it shouldn&#8217;t take long before there&#8217;s something for everyone on every topic, right?</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Phil</p>
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		By: Weekly Reflection 12 &#171; Mpemb1&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-270934</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekly Reflection 12 &#171; Mpemb1&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: EDTC Week 9 Reflections &#171; Mpemb1&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-270927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EDTC Week 9 Reflections &#171; Mpemb1&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-265243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Alex&lt;/strong&gt;: Is the problem solved or are we still looking?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No to the first. Definitely, yes, to the second. It&#039;s on my mind, like, 24/7.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Alex&lt;/strong&gt;: I still come down on the side of having more of the lesson available rather than less.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You could very well be right. I&#039;ll say this, though, that while there are many competitors in the &quot;everything but the kitchen sink&quot; category (including BetterLesson, the best-funded of the bunch) there are none that trade on inspiration. Just a bunch of scattered blogs like this one. All that&#039;s to say, I&#039;d like to see someone give the latter a try since the former has been tried so much and been found (by me, if no one else) to be pretty well wanting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Alex</strong>: Is the problem solved or are we still looking?</p></blockquote>
<p>No to the first. Definitely, yes, to the second. It&#8217;s on my mind, like, 24/7.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Alex</strong>: I still come down on the side of having more of the lesson available rather than less.</p></blockquote>
<p>You could very well be right. I&#8217;ll say this, though, that while there are many competitors in the &#8220;everything but the kitchen sink&#8221; category (including BetterLesson, the best-funded of the bunch) there are none that trade on inspiration. Just a bunch of scattered blogs like this one. All that&#8217;s to say, I&#8217;d like to see someone give the latter a try since the former has been tried so much and been found (by me, if no one else) to be pretty well wanting.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-265079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off, it&#039;s nice to see the conversation still alive :)  Has anything turned up in the past year that people are using?  I haven&#039;t checked on BetterLesson (the apparent front-runner) in a long time.

I like the mediawiki idea, enough that I might try throwing it up on teacherforge.net just to see how it feels.  I fear it&#039;d be too free-form and complicated for 90% of math teachers though.  I think we need a more guided interface to keep content addition fast and simple.  It also doesn&#039;t seem to have a built-in reputation system, but it looks like add-ons are available.

Re-reading the conversation from last year, I still come down on the side of having more of the lesson available rather than less.  In particular I believe creating/choosing excellent example/practice problems is much harder than most people think.  The selection of a good sequence of problems can be just as important than a great hook.  I definitely want hooks, but I want more than that too.

What do people think?  Is the problem solved or are we still looking?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, it&#8217;s nice to see the conversation still alive :)  Has anything turned up in the past year that people are using?  I haven&#8217;t checked on BetterLesson (the apparent front-runner) in a long time.</p>
<p>I like the mediawiki idea, enough that I might try throwing it up on teacherforge.net just to see how it feels.  I fear it&#8217;d be too free-form and complicated for 90% of math teachers though.  I think we need a more guided interface to keep content addition fast and simple.  It also doesn&#8217;t seem to have a built-in reputation system, but it looks like add-ons are available.</p>
<p>Re-reading the conversation from last year, I still come down on the side of having more of the lesson available rather than less.  In particular I believe creating/choosing excellent example/practice problems is much harder than most people think.  The selection of a good sequence of problems can be just as important than a great hook.  I definitely want hooks, but I want more than that too.</p>
<p>What do people think?  Is the problem solved or are we still looking?</p>
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		By: Jonas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a thought: how about using mediawiki (the Wikipedia software)?

It does revision control, maked-up text, multimedia, number tables (sorting by all sorts of funky columns), [...].  Forking off lesson versions---maybe that can be done by disambiguation-like pages.

Oh, and people are already comfortable navigating it, and some are already comfortable editing it; others will learn a new skill with fringe benefit applications ;-)

How does that sound?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought: how about using mediawiki (the Wikipedia software)?</p>
<p>It does revision control, maked-up text, multimedia, number tables (sorting by all sorts of funky columns), [&#8230;].  Forking off lesson versions&#8212;maybe that can be done by disambiguation-like pages.</p>
<p>Oh, and people are already comfortable navigating it, and some are already comfortable editing it; others will learn a new skill with fringe benefit applications ;-)</p>
<p>How does that sound?</p>
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		By: The Best Five Minutes of your Day &#124; Thinking In Mind		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-259864</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Best Five Minutes of your Day &#124; Thinking In Mind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] you haven&#8217;t watched this 5 minute video pitch by Dan Meyer &#8211; it&#8217;s more than worth your time. He nails so many elements of what teaching is all [...]]]></description>
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		By: How do we share our best practices? &#124; Thinking In Mind		</title>
		<link>/2009/oscon-2009-my-ignite-presentation/#comment-259863</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How do we share our best practices? &#124; Thinking In Mind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] reflections. But I’m wondering, would this approach be useful to other educators?  There’s a great discussion going on over at Dan Meyer’s Blog about this issue. Dan, like many others, wants to find a way (a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] reflections. But I’m wondering, would this approach be useful to other educators?  There’s a great discussion going on over at Dan Meyer’s Blog about this issue. Dan, like many others, wants to find a way (a [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Touzel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Touzel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Riley, I agree with your premise--and Dan&#039;s clarification--that teachers shouldn&#039;t just grab lessons and use them willy-nilly with no thought of how to apply it in their classrooms. Teachers should be somewhat deliberate about pulling shared lessons, adjusting them to meet the needs of their students.

I do, however, think that the many new teachers might need the help of something with a little more substance than a great graphic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riley, I agree with your premise&#8211;and Dan&#8217;s clarification&#8211;that teachers shouldn&#8217;t just grab lessons and use them willy-nilly with no thought of how to apply it in their classrooms. Teachers should be somewhat deliberate about pulling shared lessons, adjusting them to meet the needs of their students.</p>
<p>I do, however, think that the many new teachers might need the help of something with a little more substance than a great graphic.</p>
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