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		By: Dina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The tragedy of ANY typical classroom. At least in E/LA a process orientation is folded in via revision and editing of writing. (My colleague down the hall has a rubric she has developed totally around how definitively a kid makes changes from one draft to another.) But reading comprehension questions, say, or vocab? It&#039;s all or nothing, baby. 

And here&#039;s the kicker: study after study says authentic learning occurs via what? Hypothesis, experimentation, practice, and revision. 

I&#039;ve never understood that, though. I mean, if I don&#039;t back the car into the garage straight the first time, screw it. No driving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tragedy of ANY typical classroom. At least in E/LA a process orientation is folded in via revision and editing of writing. (My colleague down the hall has a rubric she has developed totally around how definitively a kid makes changes from one draft to another.) But reading comprehension questions, say, or vocab? It&#8217;s all or nothing, baby. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the kicker: study after study says authentic learning occurs via what? Hypothesis, experimentation, practice, and revision. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never understood that, though. I mean, if I don&#8217;t back the car into the garage straight the first time, screw it. No driving.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this the tragedy of the typical math classroom, lousy with summative assessment. You miss it or you get it, whatever, we&#039;re moving on. A single try. A single attempt at success. The needle hovers at 100% or 0% for each question and concept.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this the tragedy of the typical math classroom, lousy with summative assessment. You miss it or you get it, whatever, we&#8217;re moving on. A single try. A single attempt at success. The needle hovers at 100% or 0% for each question and concept.</p>
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		By: Dina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On failure and satisfaction...

I do these little summative quizzes. They&#039;re the bitty procedures or knowledge I want my students to know absolutely cold; the acronym to help them flesh out an extended response, how to set up a formal letter heading, stuff like that. I correct them in front of the kid the second they finish; I get a bead on knowledge and 25 small, but decently reflective grades, in 10 minutes tops.

Usually it results in a swift 100, which the kids love-- but often, it does not. (A period is out of place. Spelling is off. Something is reversed. Absolutely everything counts.)  

Sometimes it will take a kid two or three tries (over the course of as many days-- the rule is a 24 hour lapse between tries) to get it absolutely, perfectly, correct. And then they run out into the hall and scream in joy. 

No kidding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On failure and satisfaction&#8230;</p>
<p>I do these little summative quizzes. They&#8217;re the bitty procedures or knowledge I want my students to know absolutely cold; the acronym to help them flesh out an extended response, how to set up a formal letter heading, stuff like that. I correct them in front of the kid the second they finish; I get a bead on knowledge and 25 small, but decently reflective grades, in 10 minutes tops.</p>
<p>Usually it results in a swift 100, which the kids love&#8211; but often, it does not. (A period is out of place. Spelling is off. Something is reversed. Absolutely everything counts.)  </p>
<p>Sometimes it will take a kid two or three tries (over the course of as many days&#8211; the rule is a 24 hour lapse between tries) to get it absolutely, perfectly, correct. And then they run out into the hall and scream in joy. </p>
<p>No kidding.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200728</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, obviously. We&#039;re teachers. This is the only profession in the world to which definitions of &quot;success&quot; or &quot;merit&quot; do not apply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously. We&#8217;re teachers. This is the only profession in the world to which definitions of &#8220;success&#8221; or &#8220;merit&#8221; do not apply.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200719</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hopefully no one will ask you to clarify the term &#039;successful&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully no one will ask you to clarify the term &#8216;successful&#8217;.</p>
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		By: dan		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Tom&lt;/strong&gt;, students don&#039;t select teachers, specifically, but they select from a certain platter of electives, some of which go underenrolled for reasons of lousy P.R. and are cut or re-staffed. I don&#039;t know if &lt;strong&gt;Ben&lt;/strong&gt; is being totally literal there, but if a kid signs up for computer programming, she knows she is taking it from &lt;strong&gt;Ben&lt;/strong&gt;, whereas enrolling in Algebra 1 could mean Paul, Dan, Rob – anybody&#039;s guess.

@&lt;strong&gt;Darren&lt;/strong&gt;, the gender thing is a force of habit. Happy New Years likewise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Tom</strong>, students don&#8217;t select teachers, specifically, but they select from a certain platter of electives, some of which go underenrolled for reasons of lousy P.R. and are cut or re-staffed. I don&#8217;t know if <strong>Ben</strong> is being totally literal there, but if a kid signs up for computer programming, she knows she is taking it from <strong>Ben</strong>, whereas enrolling in Algebra 1 could mean Paul, Dan, Rob – anybody&#8217;s guess.</p>
<p>@<strong>Darren</strong>, the gender thing is a force of habit. Happy New Years likewise.</p>
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		By: Darren Draper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren Draper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, I thought you did good on the driver analogy. Or at least you got the sex of the bad drivers correct. ;) 

And as for driving diligently? My hat goes off to any teacher that can make it 30 years in this business with all of their nerves still intact. This job is as emotionally draining as anything out there - pot holes and all.

Happy New Year, Dan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I thought you did good on the driver analogy. Or at least you got the sex of the bad drivers correct. ;) </p>
<p>And as for driving diligently? My hat goes off to any teacher that can make it 30 years in this business with all of their nerves still intact. This job is as emotionally draining as anything out there &#8211; pot holes and all.</p>
<p>Happy New Year, Dan.</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200649</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good thing you&#039;re a math teacher and not a writing teacher---the left-lane driver analogy is terrible.  Slow drivers in the left lane are a minor nuisance, especially when compared to those who drive faster than they can control their cars, tailgate aggressively, and smash their cars into the Jersey barrier in the middle of Highway 17.

Try again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing you&#8217;re a math teacher and not a writing teacher&#8212;the left-lane driver analogy is terrible.  Slow drivers in the left lane are a minor nuisance, especially when compared to those who drive faster than they can control their cars, tailgate aggressively, and smash their cars into the Jersey barrier in the middle of Highway 17.</p>
<p>Try again.</p>
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		By: Ben Chun		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Chun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you teach an elective (like, say, computer programming) then kids are definitely picking the teacher as often as they are picking the course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you teach an elective (like, say, computer programming) then kids are definitely picking the teacher as often as they are picking the course.</p>
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		By: Tom Hoffman		</title>
		<link>/2009/two-notes-from-vacation/#comment-200638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kids get to pick which teacher&#039;s classes they enroll in?  Is that a California thing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids get to pick which teacher&#8217;s classes they enroll in?  Is that a California thing?</p>
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