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		By: Robert E. Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert E. Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have me select my check out line, then you go to another one.  You will get out before me.  Or have my wife pick it for you, that will get you out fast.  

Who is checking, and who is in front of you?   White women of upper middle class appearance tend to write checks.  Men and nonwhites do not.  Men usually carry their credit cards and cash in more accessible places than women.  Certain sorts of checkers tend to be slow (political  correctness prevents specification of sex, race, and size.)  Store managers tend to be slow.  In some stores the &quot;10 or less&quot; line is operated by the least experienced checker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have me select my check out line, then you go to another one.  You will get out before me.  Or have my wife pick it for you, that will get you out fast.  </p>
<p>Who is checking, and who is in front of you?   White women of upper middle class appearance tend to write checks.  Men and nonwhites do not.  Men usually carry their credit cards and cash in more accessible places than women.  Certain sorts of checkers tend to be slow (political  correctness prevents specification of sex, race, and size.)  Store managers tend to be slow.  In some stores the &#8220;10 or less&#8221; line is operated by the least experienced checker.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a cashier at a grocery store I can&#039;t resist posting SOMETHING here.  Here it is:

Being the first customer in an empty checkout lane does not ensure the fastest possible checkout time.  It all depends on the customer.  The reason is that the cashier&#039;s scanning speed is limited by the number of items on the belt.  If the customer unloads the cart one item at a time and the cashier begins scanning immediately, then the customer&#039;s unloading speed equals the maximum cashier scanning speed.  The fastest customers, as far as ringing up is concerned, are the ones who have already placed their groceries on the belt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a cashier at a grocery store I can&#8217;t resist posting SOMETHING here.  Here it is:</p>
<p>Being the first customer in an empty checkout lane does not ensure the fastest possible checkout time.  It all depends on the customer.  The reason is that the cashier&#8217;s scanning speed is limited by the number of items on the belt.  If the customer unloads the cart one item at a time and the cashier begins scanning immediately, then the customer&#8217;s unloading speed equals the maximum cashier scanning speed.  The fastest customers, as far as ringing up is concerned, are the ones who have already placed their groceries on the belt.</p>
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		By: Scaling Down: What Can You Do With This: Groceries &#124; Graham Wegner - Open Educator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scaling Down: What Can You Do With This: Groceries &#124; Graham Wegner - Open Educator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] his recent What Can You Do With This: Groceries post was too good to resist. The simple but engaging idea &#8211; surely I could work that in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] his recent What Can You Do With This: Groceries post was too good to resist. The simple but engaging idea &#8211; surely I could work that in [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, silence broken.  Love this one, but I adore it&#039;s LA possibilities.

I stared at these &#039;cough drops&#039; and immediately had visions of graphic organizers dancing around.

The question (what line do you choose?) is a great writing warm-up for persuasive writing and argument support.  Because more often than not, persuasive writing assignments tend to take root in heavy literature once a semester gets rolling.

What people above call &#039;variables&#039;, I&#039;d call &#039;reasons followed by examples&#039;.  Pure paragraph development heaven.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, silence broken.  Love this one, but I adore it&#8217;s LA possibilities.</p>
<p>I stared at these &#8216;cough drops&#8217; and immediately had visions of graphic organizers dancing around.</p>
<p>The question (what line do you choose?) is a great writing warm-up for persuasive writing and argument support.  Because more often than not, persuasive writing assignments tend to take root in heavy literature once a semester gets rolling.</p>
<p>What people above call &#8216;variables&#8217;, I&#8217;d call &#8216;reasons followed by examples&#8217;.  Pure paragraph development heaven.</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What I Would Do With This: Groceries		</title>
		<link>/2009/what-can-you-do-with-this-groceries/#comment-248628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What I Would Do With This: Groceries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] [following up from here] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] [following up from here] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Tyler		</title>
		<link>/2009/what-can-you-do-with-this-groceries/#comment-248554</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Aaron: I had a physics professor who would always go off on tangents from the material we were studying, usually relating to classes that several students would later take (for example, &quot;Here, we&#039;re assuming a perfectly rigid body. Of course, there&#039;s no such thing and so to really describe this accurately, you need to deal with stress and strain. If you&#039;re a mechanical engineer, you&#039;ll learn about that next semester in [whatever course]&quot; and so suddenly you&#039;re not just learning &quot;first semester mechanics&quot; -- you&#039;re getting the first steps toward something that&#039;s ahead of you, and your current class begins to become part of a bigger picture.

On the other hand, teachers going off on tangents annoys some students. I think there&#039;s definitely a right way and a wrong way to do it. But anyway, even if it&#039;s beyond the scope of the particular class, it can&#039;t hurt to mention it, and guide students in the right direction if they&#039;re interested to learn more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron: I had a physics professor who would always go off on tangents from the material we were studying, usually relating to classes that several students would later take (for example, &#8220;Here, we&#8217;re assuming a perfectly rigid body. Of course, there&#8217;s no such thing and so to really describe this accurately, you need to deal with stress and strain. If you&#8217;re a mechanical engineer, you&#8217;ll learn about that next semester in [whatever course]&#8221; and so suddenly you&#8217;re not just learning &#8220;first semester mechanics&#8221; &#8212; you&#8217;re getting the first steps toward something that&#8217;s ahead of you, and your current class begins to become part of a bigger picture.</p>
<p>On the other hand, teachers going off on tangents annoys some students. I think there&#8217;s definitely a right way and a wrong way to do it. But anyway, even if it&#8217;s beyond the scope of the particular class, it can&#8217;t hurt to mention it, and guide students in the right direction if they&#8217;re interested to learn more.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As for a different visual: what about a 3/4 shot of the queues at eyelevel (or perhaps 8 ft.) Something that would simulate how they might arrive at the lines in a real store.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Great, let&#039;s see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for a different visual: what about a 3/4 shot of the queues at eyelevel (or perhaps 8 ft.) Something that would simulate how they might arrive at the lines in a real store.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great, let&#8217;s see it.</p>
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		By: Scott Farrar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Farrar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a cashier for Longs Drugs and Barnes and Noble during high school and college.  We didn&#039;t have any form of rating system, like what is described above for Target.

I&#039;d say either 1 or 2 seconds to scan an item.  With a lot of stuff it would be less than a second.  Books were especially quick since the ISBN was in the same place for any book.

There is a lot of variability in the payment method time.  Since we&#039;re only going to care about the time that is additional to &quot;scanning time&quot;, I&#039;ll talk about that: the time spent after a cashier presses [Total].

Check:  customer writes amount (or entire check, which seemed to be the case a lot) and takes out ID for cashier to look at.  10-40 seconds.
Check must be read and endorsed by computer/printer: +15 seconds.

Cash: customer hands bills modestly over the amount: 20 seconds for cashier to make change.
OR customer tries to count exact change: 30-45 seconds
OR customer needs $80+ worth of change (rare) 1-5 minutes for a manager to arrive with key.

Credit: sometimes this can overlap almost entirely with the scanning.  If the customer is ready: 5-10 seconds to accept charge and sign.
OR if the customer hands card to cashier, 10-20 seconds.

Other line-hazards:
1) pricechecks (dealbreaker)
2) people returning items (dealbreaker)

Bagging:
Not a big deal at either Longs or Barnes and Noble.  At grocery stores, sometimes there are people who are there specifically to bag.  If that&#039;s the case, they are pretty much done before the transaction is finished.


As for a different visual: what about a 3/4 shot of the queues at eyelevel (or perhaps 8 ft.)  Something that would simulate how they might arrive at the lines in a real store.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a cashier for Longs Drugs and Barnes and Noble during high school and college.  We didn&#8217;t have any form of rating system, like what is described above for Target.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say either 1 or 2 seconds to scan an item.  With a lot of stuff it would be less than a second.  Books were especially quick since the ISBN was in the same place for any book.</p>
<p>There is a lot of variability in the payment method time.  Since we&#8217;re only going to care about the time that is additional to &#8220;scanning time&#8221;, I&#8217;ll talk about that: the time spent after a cashier presses [Total].</p>
<p>Check:  customer writes amount (or entire check, which seemed to be the case a lot) and takes out ID for cashier to look at.  10-40 seconds.<br />
Check must be read and endorsed by computer/printer: +15 seconds.</p>
<p>Cash: customer hands bills modestly over the amount: 20 seconds for cashier to make change.<br />
OR customer tries to count exact change: 30-45 seconds<br />
OR customer needs $80+ worth of change (rare) 1-5 minutes for a manager to arrive with key.</p>
<p>Credit: sometimes this can overlap almost entirely with the scanning.  If the customer is ready: 5-10 seconds to accept charge and sign.<br />
OR if the customer hands card to cashier, 10-20 seconds.</p>
<p>Other line-hazards:<br />
1) pricechecks (dealbreaker)<br />
2) people returning items (dealbreaker)</p>
<p>Bagging:<br />
Not a big deal at either Longs or Barnes and Noble.  At grocery stores, sometimes there are people who are there specifically to bag.  If that&#8217;s the case, they are pretty much done before the transaction is finished.</p>
<p>As for a different visual: what about a 3/4 shot of the queues at eyelevel (or perhaps 8 ft.)  Something that would simulate how they might arrive at the lines in a real store.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>/2009/what-can-you-do-with-this-groceries/#comment-248542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This really allows a chance for some students to provide some information of their own.  I worked for Target for 6 years before I began teaching, and while I wasn&#039;t primarily a cashier, I occasionally had to help out when there were long lines.  Something Target does (and I assume most major retail outlets do) is rate their cashiers.  Every item gets a certain amount of time to process (divided into &quot;softlines&quot; and &quot;hardlines&quot; -- essentially &quot;clothes&quot; and &quot;non-clothes&quot;), and each type of payment gets a certain amount of time to process (if I remember correctly, checks were twice as long as any other method of payment -- and they usually still went over the allotted time).  Then the cashier is rated with a percentage score, and yada yada yada.  I don&#039;t remember all the times, but I know they were there.

Any student who works in a store with a system like this will either know or will be able to get the information needed (time per item/method of payment).  Of course, we could get that information, too, but it might carry more weight for the class coming from a student.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really allows a chance for some students to provide some information of their own.  I worked for Target for 6 years before I began teaching, and while I wasn&#8217;t primarily a cashier, I occasionally had to help out when there were long lines.  Something Target does (and I assume most major retail outlets do) is rate their cashiers.  Every item gets a certain amount of time to process (divided into &#8220;softlines&#8221; and &#8220;hardlines&#8221; &#8212; essentially &#8220;clothes&#8221; and &#8220;non-clothes&#8221;), and each type of payment gets a certain amount of time to process (if I remember correctly, checks were twice as long as any other method of payment &#8212; and they usually still went over the allotted time).  Then the cashier is rated with a percentage score, and yada yada yada.  I don&#8217;t remember all the times, but I know they were there.</p>
<p>Any student who works in a store with a system like this will either know or will be able to get the information needed (time per item/method of payment).  Of course, we could get that information, too, but it might carry more weight for the class coming from a student.</p>
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		By: CLIMEguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s OK. What was misleading for me (after I knew what it was) was that I&#039;ve never seen more than one person holding a basket on the same line. I guess I just don&#039;t get out enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s OK. What was misleading for me (after I knew what it was) was that I&#8217;ve never seen more than one person holding a basket on the same line. I guess I just don&#8217;t get out enough.</p>
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