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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 101questions: Behind The Scenes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 101questions: Behind The Scenes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] reality, their messages can almost always be clarified, made easier, more fun, and less expensive. I want nothing to do with that culture of punditry. I can be clearer. I can find new metaphors. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] reality, their messages can almost always be clarified, made easier, more fun, and less expensive. I want nothing to do with that culture of punditry. I can be clearer. I can find new metaphors. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Behind The Scenes &#124; The 101questions Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Behind The Scenes &#124; The 101questions Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] reality, their messages can almost always be clarified, made easier, more fun, and less expensive. I want nothing to do with that culture of punditry. I can be clearer. I can find new metaphors. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] reality, their messages can almost always be clarified, made easier, more fun, and less expensive. I want nothing to do with that culture of punditry. I can be clearer. I can find new metaphors. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that either of you are wrong. There isn&#039;t enough precedent for this kind of content-sharing between teachers to prove or disprove my case. I&#039;m attached enough to the idea to have invested time this year developing a community around it but not so attached that I wouldn&#039;t scale back that investment if I determined it was either a) too difficult for your average teacher to adopt (pace &lt;strong&gt;sylvia&lt;/strong&gt;), or b) too specific an idea, in general, for an idiosyncratic profession (&lt;strong&gt;Dina&lt;/strong&gt;).

Two comments:

@&lt;strong&gt;Dina&lt;/strong&gt;, your critique describes the failure of every lesson plan sharing site to date. They ask for lesson plans that too particular to the pacing and style of the author&#039;s class for anyone else to download apart from really desperate new teachers.

I have built &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=3055&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the WCYDWT framework&lt;/a&gt;, instead, around &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=1928&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the rule of least power&lt;/a&gt;, which means the media come pre-packaged with the least possible structure to get a discussion started – a raw video clip or photo or sound file with the mathematical structure waiting somewhere in the wings – specifically so it can be adapted easily to the most classes possible.

@&lt;strong&gt;sylvia&lt;/strong&gt;, I&#039;m not sure you appreciate the range of possible outcomes here. It took me three years using the same tasty/easy picture to go from a simple conversation about which quadrant was the worst quadrant for a fruit to a conversation about how a coordinate graph is so much better than a dot plot of the same information. All of those exercises resulted in better retention and more fun than my textbook&#039;s approach to quadrants, but yeah, the better you are as a teacher the more success you&#039;ll have with these resources. Nothing too controversial about that, I hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that either of you are wrong. There isn&#8217;t enough precedent for this kind of content-sharing between teachers to prove or disprove my case. I&#8217;m attached enough to the idea to have invested time this year developing a community around it but not so attached that I wouldn&#8217;t scale back that investment if I determined it was either a) too difficult for your average teacher to adopt (pace <strong>sylvia</strong>), or b) too specific an idea, in general, for an idiosyncratic profession (<strong>Dina</strong>).</p>
<p>Two comments:</p>
<p>@<strong>Dina</strong>, your critique describes the failure of every lesson plan sharing site to date. They ask for lesson plans that too particular to the pacing and style of the author&#8217;s class for anyone else to download apart from really desperate new teachers.</p>
<p>I have built <a href="/?p=3055" rel="nofollow">the WCYDWT framework</a>, instead, around <a href="/?p=1928" rel="nofollow">the rule of least power</a>, which means the media come pre-packaged with the least possible structure to get a discussion started – a raw video clip or photo or sound file with the mathematical structure waiting somewhere in the wings – specifically so it can be adapted easily to the most classes possible.</p>
<p>@<strong>sylvia</strong>, I&#8217;m not sure you appreciate the range of possible outcomes here. It took me three years using the same tasty/easy picture to go from a simple conversation about which quadrant was the worst quadrant for a fruit to a conversation about how a coordinate graph is so much better than a dot plot of the same information. All of those exercises resulted in better retention and more fun than my textbook&#8217;s approach to quadrants, but yeah, the better you are as a teacher the more success you&#8217;ll have with these resources. Nothing too controversial about that, I hope.</p>
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		By: sylvia martinez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,
I&#039;m also missing the part where you think WCYDWT is easy. You gave a &quot;proof of concept&quot; - for the tasty / easy graph:

1. cover up all the fruit.
2. have an argument about where fruit goes.
3. work mathematical terms into the conversation as they become useful.

I think 2 &#038; 3 require quite a bit of mathematical imagination on the teacher&#039;s part plus skills in steering group conversation. Neither of these are easy. This kind of conversation will veer from the &quot;right answer&quot; if you really do allow student to discuss their theories. It takes understanding more than the mechanics of how to solve problems as the textbook suggests to a greater and wider understanding of how to see student conceptions, misconceptions, and perhaps new ideas as viable paths to  possible solutions. That kind of mathematical imagination is not &quot;easy&quot; to develop.

I also agree with Dina&#039;s line of questioning. I think the creation of these WCYDWT problems helps you anticipate student reactions. Finding them, tuning them, and testing them out hones your skills. Plus, over time, you&#039;ve become more adept at steering the resulting conversations towards the math you are trying to teach.

I&#039;m just not seeing how handing these artifacts off to a different teacher shortcuts the process. And I certainly don&#039;t see this as &quot;easy.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I&#8217;m also missing the part where you think WCYDWT is easy. You gave a &#8220;proof of concept&#8221; &#8211; for the tasty / easy graph:</p>
<p>1. cover up all the fruit.<br />
2. have an argument about where fruit goes.<br />
3. work mathematical terms into the conversation as they become useful.</p>
<p>I think 2 &amp; 3 require quite a bit of mathematical imagination on the teacher&#8217;s part plus skills in steering group conversation. Neither of these are easy. This kind of conversation will veer from the &#8220;right answer&#8221; if you really do allow student to discuss their theories. It takes understanding more than the mechanics of how to solve problems as the textbook suggests to a greater and wider understanding of how to see student conceptions, misconceptions, and perhaps new ideas as viable paths to  possible solutions. That kind of mathematical imagination is not &#8220;easy&#8221; to develop.</p>
<p>I also agree with Dina&#8217;s line of questioning. I think the creation of these WCYDWT problems helps you anticipate student reactions. Finding them, tuning them, and testing them out hones your skills. Plus, over time, you&#8217;ve become more adept at steering the resulting conversations towards the math you are trying to teach.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not seeing how handing these artifacts off to a different teacher shortcuts the process. And I certainly don&#8217;t see this as &#8220;easy.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, with you so far; but we&#039;re still left with a mythical bevy of tech-proficient, standards-soaked, highly creative, magnanimous teachers who will produce these materials at a ten hour pop-- for free-- for Creative Commons consumption. 

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s impossible, and creating an electronic treasure trove of these items would be extremely useful. That being said, even if you got it together, I am doubtful that the WCYDWT product-- divorced from the process of creating it-- lives up to your lofty claim. Why would it revolutionize teaching practice any more than plunking a Smartboard into a struggling teacher&#039;s classroom does?

Teaching is just too complex a phenomena, and the true benefits of WCYDWT to *practice*, as far as I can see, are tied too tightly to the hands-on creation of the thing. So now tell me why I&#039;m wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, with you so far; but we&#8217;re still left with a mythical bevy of tech-proficient, standards-soaked, highly creative, magnanimous teachers who will produce these materials at a ten hour pop&#8211; for free&#8211; for Creative Commons consumption. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s impossible, and creating an electronic treasure trove of these items would be extremely useful. That being said, even if you got it together, I am doubtful that the WCYDWT product&#8211; divorced from the process of creating it&#8211; lives up to your lofty claim. Why would it revolutionize teaching practice any more than plunking a Smartboard into a struggling teacher&#8217;s classroom does?</p>
<p>Teaching is just too complex a phenomena, and the true benefits of WCYDWT to *practice*, as far as I can see, are tied too tightly to the hands-on creation of the thing. So now tell me why I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dina:&lt;/strong&gt;: ... it seems you are talking about the ease, fun, and financial freedom of teachers downloading and using *your* WCYDWT work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Swap out &quot;your&quot; with &quot;anyone&#039;s&quot; and I&#039;d say that&#039;s about right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Dina:</strong>: &#8230; it seems you are talking about the ease, fun, and financial freedom of teachers downloading and using *your* WCYDWT work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Swap out &#8220;your&#8221; with &#8220;anyone&#8217;s&#8221; and I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s about right.</p>
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		By: Dina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, just a question here. How do you square your answer above to David Cox...

&quot;I’m confused. Why do you need to know After Effects, Photoshop, or Premiere Pro to have a conversation with your class about the tasty / easy graph?&quot;

...with your comments in &quot;Who Cares&quot;?

&quot;One, the average WCYDWT activity takes me ten hours to complete. Maybe I flatter myself, but this form of curriculum development involves something more than just a few snapshots.&quot; 

Given the above, seems to me that if you&#039;re talking &quot;easy, fun, and free,&quot; you&#039;re talking about something very different from empowering teachers to create beautiful, class-specific, local standards-based WCYDWT stuff. Rather, it it seems you are talking about the ease, fun, and financial freedom of teachers downloading and using *your* WCYDWT work. 

Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with pimping good curriculum. But let&#039;s be clear-- given the extremely small quantity of tools on your shortlist, of which a whopping 50% is yours-- that this is what you are doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, just a question here. How do you square your answer above to David Cox&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m confused. Why do you need to know After Effects, Photoshop, or Premiere Pro to have a conversation with your class about the tasty / easy graph?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;with your comments in &#8220;Who Cares&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;One, the average WCYDWT activity takes me ten hours to complete. Maybe I flatter myself, but this form of curriculum development involves something more than just a few snapshots.&#8221; </p>
<p>Given the above, seems to me that if you&#8217;re talking &#8220;easy, fun, and free,&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about something very different from empowering teachers to create beautiful, class-specific, local standards-based WCYDWT stuff. Rather, it it seems you are talking about the ease, fun, and financial freedom of teachers downloading and using *your* WCYDWT work. </p>
<p>Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with pimping good curriculum. But let&#8217;s be clear&#8211; given the extremely small quantity of tools on your shortlist, of which a whopping 50% is yours&#8211; that this is what you are doing.</p>
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		By: vlorbik		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[great post.

Many of you have vastly overrated the ease of educational computing.

thanks for this in particular.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post.</p>
<p>Many of you have vastly overrated the ease of educational computing.</p>
<p>thanks for this in particular.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I firmly believe that WCYDWT is so much more powerful than a traditional math textbook. I want it to spread like lice in a kindergarten classroom.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gross. I appreciate the sentiment, however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I firmly believe that WCYDWT is so much more powerful than a traditional math textbook. I want it to spread like lice in a kindergarten classroom.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gross. I appreciate the sentiment, however.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m jumping back nearly a week in the comments (apparently it&#039;s been quite a week, I blame DST).

I think the site you are creating is brilliant. I agree that it will make WCYDWT more accessible to many more teachers. It would thrill me beyond belief if 80% jump on it.

It&#039;s possible that my concerns stem from being an elementary school teacher rather than middle/high. In my experience, many elementary school teachers, even really fabulous ones, are intimidated by math. Many teachers who would never use a textbook for social studies or English rely on a math textbook for everything. It&#039;s hard for me to imagine them being able/willing to open things up in the way WCYDWT does. I hope I&#039;m wrong. 

I firmly believe that WCYDWT is so much more powerful than a traditional math textbook. I want it to spread like lice in a kindergarten classroom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m jumping back nearly a week in the comments (apparently it&#8217;s been quite a week, I blame DST).</p>
<p>I think the site you are creating is brilliant. I agree that it will make WCYDWT more accessible to many more teachers. It would thrill me beyond belief if 80% jump on it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that my concerns stem from being an elementary school teacher rather than middle/high. In my experience, many elementary school teachers, even really fabulous ones, are intimidated by math. Many teachers who would never use a textbook for social studies or English rely on a math textbook for everything. It&#8217;s hard for me to imagine them being able/willing to open things up in the way WCYDWT does. I hope I&#8217;m wrong. </p>
<p>I firmly believe that WCYDWT is so much more powerful than a traditional math textbook. I want it to spread like lice in a kindergarten classroom.</p>
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