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		By: Engaging math classes &#124; Campbell&#039;s Corner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Engaging math classes &#124; Campbell&#039;s Corner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] can you do with this) section of Dan Meyer&#8217;s blog. There were several examples, such as theÂ Toaster Regression, Ctd. or theÂ Grocery Shrink Ray, that the teachers thought would be appropriate for all students. They [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] can you do with this) section of Dan Meyer&#8217;s blog. There were several examples, such as theÂ Toaster Regression, Ctd. or theÂ Grocery Shrink Ray, that the teachers thought would be appropriate for all students. They [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chirs Sears		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chirs Sears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

I just finished doing my own toaster experiment.  I went through each setting three times.  You can check my results &lt;a href=&quot;http://omega-unlimited.blogspot.com/2010/12/toasting-time-is-still-not-linear.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I just finished doing my own toaster experiment.  I went through each setting three times.  You can check my results <a href="http://omega-unlimited.blogspot.com/2010/12/toasting-time-is-still-not-linear.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Average Color Ideas &#171; Bionic Teaching		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-272917</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Average Color Ideas &#171; Bionic Teaching]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I love that potential to look at things in odd ways. Even if it doesn&#8217;t end up making sense (Dan&#8217;s toast brightness values), I think you gain something in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I love that potential to look at things in odd ways. Even if it doesn&#8217;t end up making sense (Dan&#8217;s toast brightness values), I think you gain something in the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-272447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bad news, buds. I just toasted eight slices on the first setting. I threw out the first slice owing to &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=8647#comment-270793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;curmudgeon&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; concerns and averaged up the rest, which came to two seconds less time than I had originally reported. Which doesn&#039;t change the fit appreciably. (The standard deviation was .38 seconds if anybody&#039;s interested.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad news, buds. I just toasted eight slices on the first setting. I threw out the first slice owing to <a href="/?p=8647#comment-270793" rel="nofollow">curmudgeon&#8217;s</a> concerns and averaged up the rest, which came to two seconds less time than I had originally reported. Which doesn&#8217;t change the fit appreciably. (The standard deviation was .38 seconds if anybody&#8217;s interested.)</p>
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		By: Jim Ellis		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-271680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Sam and Numbat

My middle school students had immediate concerns regarding the non-linear nature of the line. Their collective conversation mirrors the conversation here and on a few other blogs. 

Some were not bothered with the flaws, some wanted to draw trend lines (not by name as they don&#039;t know much about them yet) and still others, most others had complaints as to the flawed nature of the work. Ha!

Their complaints started at the beginning where the time that the toast was reported. Some felt it to be inaccurate in respect to their own observations. Finally, their complaints ended with the questions talked about on this blog regarding heat and regularity of practice in the experiment. 

Never the less, they became rather good at working with y=mx+b during the process. The test results from this unit showed that it was the highest tested set of skills among the rest from the same unit. The inquiry, I hope, helped attach this learning in a solid location in their minds. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jim-ellis.blogspot.com&quot;/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my blog&lt;/a&gt; has a little bit of evidence of their work on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam and Numbat</p>
<p>My middle school students had immediate concerns regarding the non-linear nature of the line. Their collective conversation mirrors the conversation here and on a few other blogs. </p>
<p>Some were not bothered with the flaws, some wanted to draw trend lines (not by name as they don&#8217;t know much about them yet) and still others, most others had complaints as to the flawed nature of the work. Ha!</p>
<p>Their complaints started at the beginning where the time that the toast was reported. Some felt it to be inaccurate in respect to their own observations. Finally, their complaints ended with the questions talked about on this blog regarding heat and regularity of practice in the experiment. </p>
<p>Never the less, they became rather good at working with y=mx+b during the process. The test results from this unit showed that it was the highest tested set of skills among the rest from the same unit. The inquiry, I hope, helped attach this learning in a solid location in their minds. <a href="http://www.jim-ellis.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">my blog</a> has a little bit of evidence of their work on it.</p>
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		By: Greg Martin		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-271609</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be so down on the results in the brightness value section. This part shows students an analog to digital process and is sure to bring in visual learners, as well as those students who like using graphics software. (I&#039;m guessing there is plenty of overlap in those groups.)

Thanks for the idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so down on the results in the brightness value section. This part shows students an analog to digital process and is sure to bring in visual learners, as well as those students who like using graphics software. (I&#8217;m guessing there is plenty of overlap in those groups.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the idea.</p>
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		By: Breedeen		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-271258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breedeen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Aaron F.

The only “deep food-chemistry principle” I can think of is the Maillard reaction. This is the reaction that causes meat to sear, and bread to turn into toast. Apparently this is reaction combines the outer layer of carbohydrates and protein, creating the “golden brown and delicious” crusty goodness we know and love. Your question intrigued me enough to hop online and see what I could find about it. I discovered this gem on Wikipedia: 

&quot;The rate of Maillard reactions increases as the water activity increases, reaching a maximum at water activities in the range of 0.6 to 0.7. However, as the Maillard reaction produces water, further increases in water activity may inhibit Maillard reactions.&quot;

Could this be the cause of the change in the graph? I don&#039;t know, but it sounds good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron F.</p>
<p>The only “deep food-chemistry principle” I can think of is the Maillard reaction. This is the reaction that causes meat to sear, and bread to turn into toast. Apparently this is reaction combines the outer layer of carbohydrates and protein, creating the “golden brown and delicious” crusty goodness we know and love. Your question intrigued me enough to hop online and see what I could find about it. I discovered this gem on Wikipedia: </p>
<p>&#8220;The rate of Maillard reactions increases as the water activity increases, reaching a maximum at water activities in the range of 0.6 to 0.7. However, as the Maillard reaction produces water, further increases in water activity may inhibit Maillard reactions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could this be the cause of the change in the graph? I don&#8217;t know, but it sounds good.</p>
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		By: Aaron F.		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-271220</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;You get, well, rather uninteresting results.&quot;

Uninteresting?! I&#039;m shocked at how flawlessly piecewise-linear the setting vs. brightness graph looks! I wouldn&#039;t expect the literal darkness of the toast to be related in such a simple way to the toaster setting. And what&#039;s going on at setting six? Is the slope change an artifact of the processing method? A manifestation of some deep food-chemistry principle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You get, well, rather uninteresting results.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uninteresting?! I&#8217;m shocked at how flawlessly piecewise-linear the setting vs. brightness graph looks! I wouldn&#8217;t expect the literal darkness of the toast to be related in such a simple way to the toaster setting. And what&#8217;s going on at setting six? Is the slope change an artifact of the processing method? A manifestation of some deep food-chemistry principle?</p>
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		By: DavidC		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-270906</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, sure. Thanks. 

This stuff is really neat! Thanks for looking into it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure. Thanks. </p>
<p>This stuff is really neat! Thanks for looking into it.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2010/toaster-regression-ctd/#comment-270900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That linear fit is just a sketch, matter of fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That linear fit is just a sketch, matter of fact.</p>
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