<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: Waiting For Superman Trailer	</title>
	<atom:link href="/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/</link>
	<description>less helpful</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:16:57 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Ryan Bodine		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-267602</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Bodine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-267602</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Involving the community has been brought up briefly in the previous replies, but the level of importance in community involvement is undersold. Communities and our schools need to be interconnected where our parents and teachers form a partnership for the betterment of the child. Aside from creating a sense of community in our school systems, many families are underprivileged and the lack of education becomes a generational pattern, making it difficult for students to reach the standardized bench marks. Standardized &quot;knowledge&quot; is another problem that I won&#039;t get in to, but the key to efficient and effective learning is to adopt the curriculum to every child&#039;s cognitive state. Example- If a kid gets in a fight at recess, his brain is not going to be prepared to learn long division. Schools need to focus on the ENTIRE individual. New curriculum technology is coming out where curriculum can be personalized from day 1, adapting to the child&#039;s learning ability. There aren&#039;t many schools implementing this philosophy, but there is one school out in Phoenix that has been doing this for quite sometime, and have proven that even the most difficult students can transform their own lives into being happy, productive, aspiring adults. 

The school I&#039;m referring to is StarShine Academy in Phoenix (www.starshineacademy.org) who uses individualized learning plans and other innovative techniques to create a happy productive student through the development of every childs mind, body, spirit, health, wealth, and happiness. Holding the child&#039;s fate in a lottery is so symbolic of the state of our school system. Only the wealthy, and lucky get the chance for a good education. Spreading quality charter schools through franchise opportunities is the only way to reach every child from coast to coast. 

StarShine&#039;s curriculum works, which is why StarShine works closely with the United Nations and their Millennium Development Goals. As individual schools around the country work tirelessly to change our broken educational system, they also need support from our government. Hopefully this movie will wake them up, put their individual interests aside and work to make a difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Involving the community has been brought up briefly in the previous replies, but the level of importance in community involvement is undersold. Communities and our schools need to be interconnected where our parents and teachers form a partnership for the betterment of the child. Aside from creating a sense of community in our school systems, many families are underprivileged and the lack of education becomes a generational pattern, making it difficult for students to reach the standardized bench marks. Standardized &#8220;knowledge&#8221; is another problem that I won&#8217;t get in to, but the key to efficient and effective learning is to adopt the curriculum to every child&#8217;s cognitive state. Example- If a kid gets in a fight at recess, his brain is not going to be prepared to learn long division. Schools need to focus on the ENTIRE individual. New curriculum technology is coming out where curriculum can be personalized from day 1, adapting to the child&#8217;s learning ability. There aren&#8217;t many schools implementing this philosophy, but there is one school out in Phoenix that has been doing this for quite sometime, and have proven that even the most difficult students can transform their own lives into being happy, productive, aspiring adults. </p>
<p>The school I&#8217;m referring to is StarShine Academy in Phoenix (www.starshineacademy.org) who uses individualized learning plans and other innovative techniques to create a happy productive student through the development of every childs mind, body, spirit, health, wealth, and happiness. Holding the child&#8217;s fate in a lottery is so symbolic of the state of our school system. Only the wealthy, and lucky get the chance for a good education. Spreading quality charter schools through franchise opportunities is the only way to reach every child from coast to coast. </p>
<p>StarShine&#8217;s curriculum works, which is why StarShine works closely with the United Nations and their Millennium Development Goals. As individual schools around the country work tirelessly to change our broken educational system, they also need support from our government. Hopefully this movie will wake them up, put their individual interests aside and work to make a difference.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: LAR		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-267249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LAR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-267249</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[As an educator, I am tired of hearing about &quot;school reform&quot; because I think it is a thinly veiled excuse to pay teachers less money. Government has created achievement standards that are unrealistic, AND unfunded. They then blame schools for poor scores so they can fire teachers and create charter schools that do not cost as much to run. School Reform is NOT about educating children, it IS about finding a way to educate children in a way that it will not cost as much. 

One problem I have with this theory is that it will not change the fact that 87% of my students are on free/reduced lunch. It will not change the fact that many students are unable/unwilling to speak English. It will not change the fact that schools have turned into psychological centers for disturbed kids. It will not change the fact that schools have to take responsibility for students getting proper medical attention, which frequently includes proper hygiene. 

With this in mind, I would like to also mention that I have a double Master&#039;s degree to teach 7th and 8th grade students. In addition to having to do all the work to achieve this level of education, I also had to pay for it myself. When we talk about &quot;school reform&quot; I think part of the conversation needs to include parent education because the only qualification for having a child is a penis and a vagina.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an educator, I am tired of hearing about &#8220;school reform&#8221; because I think it is a thinly veiled excuse to pay teachers less money. Government has created achievement standards that are unrealistic, AND unfunded. They then blame schools for poor scores so they can fire teachers and create charter schools that do not cost as much to run. School Reform is NOT about educating children, it IS about finding a way to educate children in a way that it will not cost as much. </p>
<p>One problem I have with this theory is that it will not change the fact that 87% of my students are on free/reduced lunch. It will not change the fact that many students are unable/unwilling to speak English. It will not change the fact that schools have turned into psychological centers for disturbed kids. It will not change the fact that schools have to take responsibility for students getting proper medical attention, which frequently includes proper hygiene. </p>
<p>With this in mind, I would like to also mention that I have a double Master&#8217;s degree to teach 7th and 8th grade students. In addition to having to do all the work to achieve this level of education, I also had to pay for it myself. When we talk about &#8220;school reform&#8221; I think part of the conversation needs to include parent education because the only qualification for having a child is a penis and a vagina.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Waiting for Superman: A Documentary Film on Educational Reform &#124; The Art of Teaching Science Blog - Humanistic &#38; Experiential Science Education		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-265293</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Waiting for Superman: A Documentary Film on Educational Reform &#124; The Art of Teaching Science Blog - Humanistic &#38; Experiential Science Education]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-265293</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[[...] are other reviews of the film. In this review, I found the comments by readers enlightening about the film, especially questioning the assumption [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are other reviews of the film. In this review, I found the comments by readers enlightening about the film, especially questioning the assumption [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: isabooklady		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-263823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[isabooklady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-263823</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[This movie has all the bells and whistles of being &quot;socially responsible&quot;, however, I beg to differ.  It is a well-packaged, well-financed and well coordinated attack on the public school system. One needs only to check who financed this film to find that there is much more afoot than &quot;social responsibility&quot;. 

It seems to make a compelling argument that teachers are at the root of all of our educational woes in this country, but it fails to dole out the much deserved serving of criticism to the proponents of No Child Left Behind who instituted &quot;unreasonable demands&quot; upon local school entities and promulgated a toxic &quot;culture of testing&quot; that would irrevocable harm special needs students, children whose first language is other than English and students who do not test well for whatever reason according to educational historian, Diane Ravitch.

Read Diane Ravitch&#039;s book, The Death and Life of the Great American School System:How Testing and Choice are Undermining Education&quot; before you enter the theater.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movie has all the bells and whistles of being &#8220;socially responsible&#8221;, however, I beg to differ.  It is a well-packaged, well-financed and well coordinated attack on the public school system. One needs only to check who financed this film to find that there is much more afoot than &#8220;social responsibility&#8221;. </p>
<p>It seems to make a compelling argument that teachers are at the root of all of our educational woes in this country, but it fails to dole out the much deserved serving of criticism to the proponents of No Child Left Behind who instituted &#8220;unreasonable demands&#8221; upon local school entities and promulgated a toxic &#8220;culture of testing&#8221; that would irrevocable harm special needs students, children whose first language is other than English and students who do not test well for whatever reason according to educational historian, Diane Ravitch.</p>
<p>Read Diane Ravitch&#8217;s book, The Death and Life of the Great American School System:How Testing and Choice are Undermining Education&#8221; before you enter the theater.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Elizabeth		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-262696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-262696</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I have to say I feel wary after seeing this trailer and the other promotional materials for the film.

I did my pre-service hours in a remedial algebra classroom at a school like the one in The Wire. As an outsider being suddenly immersed in their desperate, cruel, scary, hungry, and dangerous world, it was pretty obvious that improving their algebra skills were the least of their problems. 

Which is not to say that I will give up. But I will also not just shut up about the necessity of improving their social conditions as well.

You can test him or her all you want, but an exhausted, frightened, hungry child has already been &quot;left behind.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I feel wary after seeing this trailer and the other promotional materials for the film.</p>
<p>I did my pre-service hours in a remedial algebra classroom at a school like the one in The Wire. As an outsider being suddenly immersed in their desperate, cruel, scary, hungry, and dangerous world, it was pretty obvious that improving their algebra skills were the least of their problems. </p>
<p>Which is not to say that I will give up. But I will also not just shut up about the necessity of improving their social conditions as well.</p>
<p>You can test him or her all you want, but an exhausted, frightened, hungry child has already been &#8220;left behind.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Jennifer Schewe		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-261723</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Schewe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-261723</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with Michael&#039;s comment.  Working with families in impoverished areas I have see many factors that effect a child&#039;s ability to receive a diploma.  What about the child who has six younger siblings and no father in the house?  When one of the children gets sick, it falls to the oldest child to care for them if the mother needs to work to make ends meet.  What about that same child who has to come home from school and cook dinner, from whatever she can find, clean the house, get the other children in bed, and then try and do homework, while her mother is out running the streets?  What about the family that is constantly on the move following jobs and the child has to readjust to new situations and teaching styles?  What about the child who has been told from the day that they were born that they were a mistake and/or stupid and that they will never succeed?  What about the teacher who is overwhelmed and works until 2 or 3 in the morning trying to come up with ways to reach children who see education as a luxury compared to survival?  Where are the people in the community who build these children up and tell them that they are worth something?  The neighbor who volunteers to take care of the sick child so the older sibling can go to school and not fall behind?  Instead of addressing the social issues, we are working to isolate our children from them and denying support for those children who do not get encouragement at home.  I remember growing up, we always had several kids, that did not live in our house, over for dinner.  Some of them every night.  Some had situations that they didn&#039;t want to go home to, others didn&#039;t have anything to eat if they did go home.  My mother always made them feel as if they were part of our family.  Technology has given us the opportunity to connect with people around the world, but it has also caused us to disconnect with those around us.  The old adage is true, &quot;It takes a village to raise a child.&quot;  Whose village are you part of and whose children are you helping to raise?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Michael&#8217;s comment.  Working with families in impoverished areas I have see many factors that effect a child&#8217;s ability to receive a diploma.  What about the child who has six younger siblings and no father in the house?  When one of the children gets sick, it falls to the oldest child to care for them if the mother needs to work to make ends meet.  What about that same child who has to come home from school and cook dinner, from whatever she can find, clean the house, get the other children in bed, and then try and do homework, while her mother is out running the streets?  What about the family that is constantly on the move following jobs and the child has to readjust to new situations and teaching styles?  What about the child who has been told from the day that they were born that they were a mistake and/or stupid and that they will never succeed?  What about the teacher who is overwhelmed and works until 2 or 3 in the morning trying to come up with ways to reach children who see education as a luxury compared to survival?  Where are the people in the community who build these children up and tell them that they are worth something?  The neighbor who volunteers to take care of the sick child so the older sibling can go to school and not fall behind?  Instead of addressing the social issues, we are working to isolate our children from them and denying support for those children who do not get encouragement at home.  I remember growing up, we always had several kids, that did not live in our house, over for dinner.  Some of them every night.  Some had situations that they didn&#8217;t want to go home to, others didn&#8217;t have anything to eat if they did go home.  My mother always made them feel as if they were part of our family.  Technology has given us the opportunity to connect with people around the world, but it has also caused us to disconnect with those around us.  The old adage is true, &#8220;It takes a village to raise a child.&#8221;  Whose village are you part of and whose children are you helping to raise?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Rebecca		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-261691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-261691</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Dan, I&#039;ve been reading your blog off and on (mostly on) for the past few months.  I consider myself an accidental blogger, as I began using a blog to communicate about a university course I was &quot;tweaking&quot;...with both supporters and detractors.  Once the course was history, I just kept writing...and reading other blogs...and writing. 

The career change of my dreams is from university teaching to junior high teaching, as the best foundation for what--and how-- I teach has to be laid much earlier than college.

Please keep writing, so that I can keep reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I&#8217;ve been reading your blog off and on (mostly on) for the past few months.  I consider myself an accidental blogger, as I began using a blog to communicate about a university course I was &#8220;tweaking&#8221;&#8230;with both supporters and detractors.  Once the course was history, I just kept writing&#8230;and reading other blogs&#8230;and writing. </p>
<p>The career change of my dreams is from university teaching to junior high teaching, as the best foundation for what&#8211;and how&#8211; I teach has to be laid much earlier than college.</p>
<p>Please keep writing, so that I can keep reading.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: kevin		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-261681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-261681</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[First, I&#039;d like to see how the comparisons with other countries are drawn, otherwise I&#039;m not sold.  There have been a host of invalid comparisons made over the years between countries with vastly different educational systems and vastly different goals with vastly different student demographics.

Second, as a math teacher myself I shudder when I see this as I suspect that this will not mean more art, more cooking, more school gardens or more time learning how to act locally, but rather I fear it will mean more algebra, more trig, more AP classes, more facts, more accceleration, less thinking.

Dan has inspired me to find ways to bring something of value within a content area that generally does not serve students.  But that job becomes harder if the pressure is directed at &#039;more&#039; math, more topics, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;d like to see how the comparisons with other countries are drawn, otherwise I&#8217;m not sold.  There have been a host of invalid comparisons made over the years between countries with vastly different educational systems and vastly different goals with vastly different student demographics.</p>
<p>Second, as a math teacher myself I shudder when I see this as I suspect that this will not mean more art, more cooking, more school gardens or more time learning how to act locally, but rather I fear it will mean more algebra, more trig, more AP classes, more facts, more accceleration, less thinking.</p>
<p>Dan has inspired me to find ways to bring something of value within a content area that generally does not serve students.  But that job becomes harder if the pressure is directed at &#8216;more&#8217; math, more topics, etc.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Ravi		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-261676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-261676</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[A lottery selects by its nature the most motivated children.  Compare their performance at the magic charter school with that of lottery losers.  They are equally motivated and simply not as lucky.  You will find little to no difference in the achievement of those children at their public school because they are highly motivated.

Charters serve to concentrate a reasonable number of highly motivated children in a school building.  Then, when they get results, it&#039;s because the invisible hand of the market has unleashed innovation and glory in education.  It&#039;s never because they drain the better students from an area and cause the rest of the kids to be divided up among the neighboring zones.  And when I say better, I mean more motivated.

If the lottery is not enough of a selection mechanism, a principal can require an essay, an interview, a parent interview, orientation sessions, what have you.  If some lazy child did manage to win the lottery, they certainly will not write an essay.  If a child with uninterested parents does manage to win the lottery, their parents will certainly not show up for an interview.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lottery selects by its nature the most motivated children.  Compare their performance at the magic charter school with that of lottery losers.  They are equally motivated and simply not as lucky.  You will find little to no difference in the achievement of those children at their public school because they are highly motivated.</p>
<p>Charters serve to concentrate a reasonable number of highly motivated children in a school building.  Then, when they get results, it&#8217;s because the invisible hand of the market has unleashed innovation and glory in education.  It&#8217;s never because they drain the better students from an area and cause the rest of the kids to be divided up among the neighboring zones.  And when I say better, I mean more motivated.</p>
<p>If the lottery is not enough of a selection mechanism, a principal can require an essay, an interview, a parent interview, orientation sessions, what have you.  If some lazy child did manage to win the lottery, they certainly will not write an essay.  If a child with uninterested parents does manage to win the lottery, their parents will certainly not show up for an interview.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Michael Paul Goldenberg		</title>
		<link>/2010/waiting-for-superman-trailer/#comment-261671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Paul Goldenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">/?p=7248#comment-261671</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Not bad, &quot;e&quot;. The notion that parents and/or have no role in or responsibility for educational/academic, is usually (but not always) an indication that the school critic is out to pin the blame for everything on public (never private) education. And of course it makes no sense to suggest that it&#039;s all the fault of a given school, a given set of teachers, etc., without regard to the other educational stake holders.

The flip side of this approach is to pin the blame entirely on bad parenting and lazy, dumb kids. I hear that one a lot from bad teachers, almost never from good ones (and from some administrators, too). But I also hear it from those who claim that given the &quot;poor raw material&quot; kids from poverty and their families represent, we&#039;re wasting precious resources (particularly of the monetary kind) on schools in these sorts of neighborhoods, communities, districts, etc. I can almost hear the voice of Alistair Sim from the 1951(?) version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL: &quot;Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?&quot;

There&#039;s plenty of blame to go around, of course, but it&#039;s not merely the obvious folks and institutions that need to be targeted. The genius of American classism and racism is its ability to deflect blame on everyone but those with the greatest vested interest in maintaining the status quo, keeping the majority in poverty and ignorance, and ensuring that the have-nots and barely-haves fight amongst themselves for the few crumbs that come their way. US public education gets the blame for every failure, real or imagined, but NEVER gets credit for a single success. That says it all right there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not bad, &#8220;e&#8221;. The notion that parents and/or have no role in or responsibility for educational/academic, is usually (but not always) an indication that the school critic is out to pin the blame for everything on public (never private) education. And of course it makes no sense to suggest that it&#8217;s all the fault of a given school, a given set of teachers, etc., without regard to the other educational stake holders.</p>
<p>The flip side of this approach is to pin the blame entirely on bad parenting and lazy, dumb kids. I hear that one a lot from bad teachers, almost never from good ones (and from some administrators, too). But I also hear it from those who claim that given the &#8220;poor raw material&#8221; kids from poverty and their families represent, we&#8217;re wasting precious resources (particularly of the monetary kind) on schools in these sorts of neighborhoods, communities, districts, etc. I can almost hear the voice of Alistair Sim from the 1951(?) version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL: &#8220;Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of blame to go around, of course, but it&#8217;s not merely the obvious folks and institutions that need to be targeted. The genius of American classism and racism is its ability to deflect blame on everyone but those with the greatest vested interest in maintaining the status quo, keeping the majority in poverty and ignorance, and ensuring that the have-nots and barely-haves fight amongst themselves for the few crumbs that come their way. US public education gets the blame for every failure, real or imagined, but NEVER gets credit for a single success. That says it all right there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
