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		By: (Hard) Practice makes better &#124; Shifting Phases		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[(Hard) Practice makes better &#124; Shifting Phases]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] with causality is the puzzle from which my desire for explanation emerged; it is the source of the perplexity that makes me unwilling to give up. I hope that pursuing it honestly will help me think better [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] with causality is the puzzle from which my desire for explanation emerged; it is the source of the perplexity that makes me unwilling to give up. I hope that pursuing it honestly will help me think better [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Math Project: Disneyland Parking Structure		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-573161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Math Project: Disneyland Parking Structure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] projects start with perplexing seeds that draw out questions that are answered with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] projects start with perplexing seeds that draw out questions that are answered with [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: James C.		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-363233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a little hard to take a math teacher like Bennett seriously when he simplifies finance to the most basic financial transactions (e.g. leaving a tip on your meal cost), and suggests only math teachers and engineers need &quot;higher&quot; math.  If he&#039;s suggesting that maybe we&#039;re not teaching the right topics in math, he may have a point. But even if the chosen math topics are not to his liking, at least a curriculum means there is progression and we don&#039;t leave it up to teachers to re-invent the math wheel every year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a little hard to take a math teacher like Bennett seriously when he simplifies finance to the most basic financial transactions (e.g. leaving a tip on your meal cost), and suggests only math teachers and engineers need &#8220;higher&#8221; math.  If he&#8217;s suggesting that maybe we&#8217;re not teaching the right topics in math, he may have a point. But even if the chosen math topics are not to his liking, at least a curriculum means there is progression and we don&#8217;t leave it up to teachers to re-invent the math wheel every year.</p>
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		By: Mr. Vaudrey		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-363178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Vaudrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have we arrived here yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyowJZxrtbg

To save you 12 minutes, Bennett contends that upper-level math is really only necessary for a career in math instruction. 

Further, he contends that the type of abstract reasoning taught by Algebra can be taught just as easily with puzzles, logic, and games.

Interesting, but I&#039;m not on board just yet. I think the idea of perplexity runs in this same vein, but tangential to the movement of &quot;Overthrow the Standardized Test!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have we arrived here yet?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyowJZxrtbg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyowJZxrtbg</a></p>
<p>To save you 12 minutes, Bennett contends that upper-level math is really only necessary for a career in math instruction. </p>
<p>Further, he contends that the type of abstract reasoning taught by Algebra can be taught just as easily with puzzles, logic, and games.</p>
<p>Interesting, but I&#8217;m not on board just yet. I think the idea of perplexity runs in this same vein, but tangential to the movement of &#8220;Overthrow the Standardized Test!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jan Nordgreen		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-344629</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alfred North Whitehead said the same in 1929.

More: https://plus.google.com/u/0/108840294486623374565/posts/ayyYJdWLqVd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfred North Whitehead said the same in 1929.</p>
<p>More: <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/108840294486623374565/posts/ayyYJdWLqVd" rel="nofollow ugc">https://plus.google.com/u/0/108840294486623374565/posts/ayyYJdWLqVd</a></p>
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		By: Weekly Picks &#171; Mathblogging.org &#8212; the Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekly Picks &#171; Mathblogging.org &#8212; the Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] of blogging, Angles of Reflection asked if proofs should be taught in school (and followed it up), dan/dy explained why it&#8217;s wrong to pretend that kids will later love the math they hate now (and how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of blogging, Angles of Reflection asked if proofs should be taught in school (and followed it up), dan/dy explained why it&#8217;s wrong to pretend that kids will later love the math they hate now (and how [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Brooke in Math &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Life Math		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-339527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooke in Math &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Life Math]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Public Relations [...]]]></description>
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		By: luke hodge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not so sure how many students really believe that the math they learn today will even be helpful to them in a few days, weeks, or months down the road in that very same math class, let alone in the world outside school.  I think that many students, with justification in some instances, view math as a string of largely unrelated two week units.  

School is very much the “real world” for students - real work to get done, real stress, etc.  I wish I could do a better job of marketing the fact that working for a better understanding today really will make a difference in a student’s “real world” experience in the classroom in future months (more success and less stress) — and make sure that the marketing isn’t false advertising.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure how many students really believe that the math they learn today will even be helpful to them in a few days, weeks, or months down the road in that very same math class, let alone in the world outside school.  I think that many students, with justification in some instances, view math as a string of largely unrelated two week units.  </p>
<p>School is very much the “real world” for students &#8211; real work to get done, real stress, etc.  I wish I could do a better job of marketing the fact that working for a better understanding today really will make a difference in a student’s “real world” experience in the classroom in future months (more success and less stress) — and make sure that the marketing isn’t false advertising.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Louise&lt;/strong&gt;: Looks like the pure vs. applied math debate to me (again).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t this particular post has that character. Rather it addresses the question, &quot;If we&#039;re going to make the claim that math applies to the world, how best do we do that?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Louise</strong>: Looks like the pure vs. applied math debate to me (again).</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t this particular post has that character. Rather it addresses the question, &#8220;If we&#8217;re going to make the claim that math applies to the world, how best do we do that?&#8221;</p>
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		By: louise		</title>
		<link>/2011/public-relations/#comment-337565</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like the pure vs. applied math debate to me (again). Maybe the Math equivalent of writers vs. editors? Artists vs. art critics? (stirring the pot?) I do know that, when I was in grad. school, the math/physics continuum was
pure mathematicians, theoretical physicists, applied mathematicians, experimental physicists. You got to take your pick on which was the &quot;top end&quot; depending on your own interests. I am very happy that people on this discussion understand that the only reason for doing Math is as a minion to help with experimental physics, but I do know some mathematicians who are pretty horrified. Of course they mostly don&#039;t stoop to teaching middle and high school students :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the pure vs. applied math debate to me (again). Maybe the Math equivalent of writers vs. editors? Artists vs. art critics? (stirring the pot?) I do know that, when I was in grad. school, the math/physics continuum was<br />
pure mathematicians, theoretical physicists, applied mathematicians, experimental physicists. You got to take your pick on which was the &#8220;top end&#8221; depending on your own interests. I am very happy that people on this discussion understand that the only reason for doing Math is as a minion to help with experimental physics, but I do know some mathematicians who are pretty horrified. Of course they mostly don&#8217;t stoop to teaching middle and high school students :-)</p>
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