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		By: Kyle Kline		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I received the clickers from Promethean instead of the clickers from the SMART company. I like them better because the students are not limited to only multiple choice questions but can also answer numerical short answer, text short answer, true-false questions. The quick responses and ability to assess the students&#039; understanding is invaluable for my math class.  I recommend the Promethean product over the SMART product to anyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the clickers from Promethean instead of the clickers from the SMART company. I like them better because the students are not limited to only multiple choice questions but can also answer numerical short answer, text short answer, true-false questions. The quick responses and ability to assess the students&#8217; understanding is invaluable for my math class.  I recommend the Promethean product over the SMART product to anyone.</p>
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		By: KYoung		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In response to people who are frustrated that they have a global policy of no phones used in lessons I would be very concerned about a lesson where one could &#039;use you phone if you have one&#039; and here is something else for the poor folks out there!

Part of the reason I never use phones in lessons is that there are some &#039;spoiled&#039; kids who have the latest phone (I have a friend who actually bought her son of 13 the IPhone 4 to replace his Iphone 3GS because he has to have a better phone than his friends) Others have a cheap one that is only to be used in an emergency and I would rather not draw attention to that.

I don&#039;t know how contacts and phone purchasing works in the USA but over here in England it can work out expensive?  Sometimes policy isn&#039;t about people not understanding technology but more about understanding kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to people who are frustrated that they have a global policy of no phones used in lessons I would be very concerned about a lesson where one could &#8216;use you phone if you have one&#8217; and here is something else for the poor folks out there!</p>
<p>Part of the reason I never use phones in lessons is that there are some &#8216;spoiled&#8217; kids who have the latest phone (I have a friend who actually bought her son of 13 the IPhone 4 to replace his Iphone 3GS because he has to have a better phone than his friends) Others have a cheap one that is only to be used in an emergency and I would rather not draw attention to that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how contacts and phone purchasing works in the USA but over here in England it can work out expensive?  Sometimes policy isn&#8217;t about people not understanding technology but more about understanding kids.</p>
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		By: Marina		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275645</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a recent college grad and I had to get a clicker for my freshman physics course.  My first complaint, and this concerns the cost issue, is that I never again used the thing in any other class.  Granted, I only took a couple of classes out of the physics department, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a stretch to say that university departments are disjointed and it does not surprise me that a technique wouldn&#039;t be used across departments.  And at the end of 4 years, I was stuck with a barely used four year old clicker with no market value.

More importantly, the effectiveness of the clicker depends heavily on how they&#039;re used.  During the second semester of physics, the prof used them primarily to get a general idea of how the 300 person lecture was understanding what he was saying. 
However, the first semester was a disaster.  The prof would ask questions that we would actually be graded on.  It was impossible to tell if your response was actually received.  Furthermore, different people learn differently, and it will never be fair to test something that you were just taught without the opportunity for it to sink in.  The clickers simply became another stressor, especially for a freshman class.
At the end of the semester, the prof used the clicker to essentially collect demographic data from the class and supplemented it with his own commentary...and that was just weird, uncomfortable, and borderline racist/sexist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a recent college grad and I had to get a clicker for my freshman physics course.  My first complaint, and this concerns the cost issue, is that I never again used the thing in any other class.  Granted, I only took a couple of classes out of the physics department, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that university departments are disjointed and it does not surprise me that a technique wouldn&#8217;t be used across departments.  And at the end of 4 years, I was stuck with a barely used four year old clicker with no market value.</p>
<p>More importantly, the effectiveness of the clicker depends heavily on how they&#8217;re used.  During the second semester of physics, the prof used them primarily to get a general idea of how the 300 person lecture was understanding what he was saying.<br />
However, the first semester was a disaster.  The prof would ask questions that we would actually be graded on.  It was impossible to tell if your response was actually received.  Furthermore, different people learn differently, and it will never be fair to test something that you were just taught without the opportunity for it to sink in.  The clickers simply became another stressor, especially for a freshman class.<br />
At the end of the semester, the prof used the clicker to essentially collect demographic data from the class and supplemented it with his own commentary&#8230;and that was just weird, uncomfortable, and borderline racist/sexist.</p>
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		By: Jason Dyer		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275582</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I talked to a SMART representative at a conference today and they said the &quot;clicker or smartphone&quot; hybrid system is available now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to a SMART representative at a conference today and they said the &#8220;clicker or smartphone&#8221; hybrid system is available now.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275568</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think in 5+ years clickers will be obsolete as everyone will have a smartphone, and the monitoring will be done in this way. 

It&#039;s just a matter of time. This technological progress is a shift in the fundamental way we think about teaching. It&#039;s a true revolution in the way we communicate and produce knowledge and develop skills.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in 5+ years clickers will be obsolete as everyone will have a smartphone, and the monitoring will be done in this way. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a matter of time. This technological progress is a shift in the fundamental way we think about teaching. It&#8217;s a true revolution in the way we communicate and produce knowledge and develop skills.</p>
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		By: Nora		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The complaints must be about the cost more than anything.  I teach at the high school level and as the students enter my room one of the first questions they ask is, &quot;Are we using the clickers today?&quot;  
The students are excited to use them.  And I like that EVERY student is involved.  The only downfall of the clickers I have, is that I&#039;m limited to multiple choice questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The complaints must be about the cost more than anything.  I teach at the high school level and as the students enter my room one of the first questions they ask is, &#8220;Are we using the clickers today?&#8221;<br />
The students are excited to use them.  And I like that EVERY student is involved.  The only downfall of the clickers I have, is that I&#8217;m limited to multiple choice questions.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I sympathize with the students on this one. While it&#039;s going on 20 years since I was a full-time student I distinctly remember my irritation with classes where I was told to buy required books which were never referenced.

The clickers are pricey for what they are and the buyback price, at least at our institution, borders on offensive. 

I suspect the students are angered by the clickers not so much because of the price as a concrete number, but as a comparative value. This is a more tech-savvy generation than ever before and they&#039;re well aware that the technology in a clicker is outdated and would result in a $5 product out in the consumer world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathize with the students on this one. While it&#8217;s going on 20 years since I was a full-time student I distinctly remember my irritation with classes where I was told to buy required books which were never referenced.</p>
<p>The clickers are pricey for what they are and the buyback price, at least at our institution, borders on offensive. </p>
<p>I suspect the students are angered by the clickers not so much because of the price as a concrete number, but as a comparative value. This is a more tech-savvy generation than ever before and they&#8217;re well aware that the technology in a clicker is outdated and would result in a $5 product out in the consumer world.</p>
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		By: Derek Bruff		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275422</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link to my post, Dan, and for all the comments from everyone else.  A few thoughts...

1) I think these tweets say more about how some students use Twitter (to complain) than they do about how students at large view clickers.

2) At many colleges and universities, it&#039;s the case that students have to purchase their clickers, either at the local bookstore or through an online vendor.

3) Surveys of students on their thoughts about clickers are consistent: Students don&#039;t like having to pay for a device that&#039;s primarily used to monitor them Big Brother style (by taking attendance) or to make their professor&#039;s life easier (by doing the grading for him or her).  Students want to see the value to their learning in the use of clickers.  If that&#039;s not clear, they grumble.

4) A classroom response system, like any educational technology, isn&#039;t by itself good or bad or effective or ineffective.  How teachers use clickers--that&#039;s what determines the effectiveness.

See my blog on teaching with clickers for some ideas for using clickers effectively!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to my post, Dan, and for all the comments from everyone else.  A few thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>1) I think these tweets say more about how some students use Twitter (to complain) than they do about how students at large view clickers.</p>
<p>2) At many colleges and universities, it&#8217;s the case that students have to purchase their clickers, either at the local bookstore or through an online vendor.</p>
<p>3) Surveys of students on their thoughts about clickers are consistent: Students don&#8217;t like having to pay for a device that&#8217;s primarily used to monitor them Big Brother style (by taking attendance) or to make their professor&#8217;s life easier (by doing the grading for him or her).  Students want to see the value to their learning in the use of clickers.  If that&#8217;s not clear, they grumble.</p>
<p>4) A classroom response system, like any educational technology, isn&#8217;t by itself good or bad or effective or ineffective.  How teachers use clickers&#8211;that&#8217;s what determines the effectiveness.</p>
<p>See my blog on teaching with clickers for some ideas for using clickers effectively!</p>
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		By: barefootmeg		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275414</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our kids&#039; school got a technology grant and clickers is one of the things they bought (along with smart boards and elmos). The kids love them. In fact, just a few days ago my daughter came home and said that they&#039;d taken a quiz using the clickers. At the end of the quiz you knew right away how many people had gotten each question right or wrong (though the info. on who clicked on what was hidden). Then not only were their scores already tabulated, but the teacher could discuss the questions on the quiz right after they&#039;d taken it, so it was all still fresh in their minds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our kids&#8217; school got a technology grant and clickers is one of the things they bought (along with smart boards and elmos). The kids love them. In fact, just a few days ago my daughter came home and said that they&#8217;d taken a quiz using the clickers. At the end of the quiz you knew right away how many people had gotten each question right or wrong (though the info. on who clicked on what was hidden). Then not only were their scores already tabulated, but the teacher could discuss the questions on the quiz right after they&#8217;d taken it, so it was all still fresh in their minds.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>/2011/students-tweeting-about-clickers/#comment-275413</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some students sit as far to the back of a classroom as possible.
Some students will never raise their hand or ask a question.
Some students would prefer to never even attend class.
Finally, some students are critical of clicker systems which require their participation in class.  Are you really surprised?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some students sit as far to the back of a classroom as possible.<br />
Some students will never raise their hand or ask a question.<br />
Some students would prefer to never even attend class.<br />
Finally, some students are critical of clicker systems which require their participation in class.  Are you really surprised?</p>
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