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		By: Making Midpoint Intuitive &#124; Prime Factors		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 21:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Furthermore, this low-tech method will all have been done without going into faux &#8220;real world&#8221; midpoint applications. As Michael Serra commented at dy/dan: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Furthermore, this low-tech method will all have been done without going into faux &#8220;real world&#8221; midpoint applications. As Michael Serra commented at dy/dan: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Michael Serra		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-626867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Serra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[THANK YOU DAN. FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE COURAGE TO SAY WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID: 

You wrote: Students ask &quot;Why am I learning this?&quot; because they feel stupid and small, not because they want you to force a context onto the mathematics. 

Yes, my experience as well. This constant call to give them content in a &quot;real&quot; context so that we think we satisfy their question of &quot;Why do I need to learn this&quot; is to be challenged. Middle school students working on percentages aren&#039;t going to become more excited or engaged if we give then problems about mortgages on their homes.

Curiosity and engagement will always trump &quot;real world&quot; applications. Games, puzzles, being surprised or caught off guard with something new and trying to find out why, these are big tools in our teacher toolbox. 
Good seeing you the other day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU DAN. FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE COURAGE TO SAY WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID: </p>
<p>You wrote: Students ask &#8220;Why am I learning this?&#8221; because they feel stupid and small, not because they want you to force a context onto the mathematics. </p>
<p>Yes, my experience as well. This constant call to give them content in a &#8220;real&#8221; context so that we think we satisfy their question of &#8220;Why do I need to learn this&#8221; is to be challenged. Middle school students working on percentages aren&#8217;t going to become more excited or engaged if we give then problems about mortgages on their homes.</p>
<p>Curiosity and engagement will always trump &#8220;real world&#8221; applications. Games, puzzles, being surprised or caught off guard with something new and trying to find out why, these are big tools in our teacher toolbox.<br />
Good seeing you the other day.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-603349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;David&lt;/strong&gt;, provocative. Thanks for putting it together. There were a couple of different options here:

- video plays through, no questions.
- video plays through, narrator asks questions, no input mechanism
- video plays through, software asks questions, input mechanism.

The second troubled me because there wasn&#039;t any kind of accountability or press. Students would come to disregard teacher questions or take them unseriously.

I was worried about the third (yours) because I figured students would become irretrievably stuck at different moments. But you may have fixed us all up here with the option that lets students continue past an incorrect submission onto the rest of the video. So long as the teacher sees those submissions, I think we&#039;re all in good shape.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>David</strong>, provocative. Thanks for putting it together. There were a couple of different options here:</p>
<p>&#8211; video plays through, no questions.<br />
&#8211; video plays through, narrator asks questions, no input mechanism<br />
&#8211; video plays through, software asks questions, input mechanism.</p>
<p>The second troubled me because there wasn&#8217;t any kind of accountability or press. Students would come to disregard teacher questions or take them unseriously.</p>
<p>I was worried about the third (yours) because I figured students would become irretrievably stuck at different moments. But you may have fixed us all up here with the option that lets students continue past an incorrect submission onto the rest of the video. So long as the teacher sees those submissions, I think we&#8217;re all in good shape.</p>
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		By: The Flipped Classroom: Traps and Before the Lecture &#171; Learner-Shaped Technology		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-599336</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] After authoring this post, I caught up with my feed reading and realized Dan Meyer had also emphasized putting something BEFORE the online lecture to activate students&#038;#8217....Â  I&#8217;m happy to be on the same page as Dan Meyer and others (see comments), even if it means [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] After authoring this post, I caught up with my feed reading and realized Dan Meyer had also emphasized putting something BEFORE the online lecture to activate students&amp;#8217&#8230;.Â  I&#8217;m happy to be on the same page as Dan Meyer and others (see comments), even if it means [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: David Lippman		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-599037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Lippman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I took a stab at adding interactivity to the video in the example, automatically pausing and popping up questions during playback.  Would love feedback.  http://drlippman.blogspot.com/2012/12/building-on-better-online-math.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a stab at adding interactivity to the video in the example, automatically pausing and popping up questions during playback.  Would love feedback.  <a href="http://drlippman.blogspot.com/2012/12/building-on-better-online-math.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://drlippman.blogspot.com/2012/12/building-on-better-online-math.html</a></p>
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		By: Two Guys Walk Into a Bar&#8230; &#171; wwndtd		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-589703</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] says that for online math (a.k.a., the Kahn Academy approach) to be more effective, you first need an in-class hook. The lecture will be that much more palatable if you know you&#8217;re going to get something out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] says that for online math (a.k.a., the Kahn Academy approach) to be more effective, you first need an in-class hook. The lecture will be that much more palatable if you know you&#8217;re going to get something out [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Unemployed Math Teachers Fighting For Bread In The Streets &#124; Stanford EDF 403X		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-573639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Unemployed Math Teachers Fighting For Bread In The Streets &#124; Stanford EDF 403X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] for the self-promotion, but here&#8217;s an example (and write-up) I prototyped today in which I&#8217;m trying to marry Dan Schwartz&#8217;s cog psych research with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] for the self-promotion, but here&#8217;s an example (and write-up) I prototyped today in which I&#8217;m trying to marry Dan Schwartz&#8217;s cog psych research with [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Roberto		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-572619</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ddmeyer I mainly back your approach. 
Now a few notes (hope this helps improving the discussion here):
 
- how many times a student is definitely NOT interested in the challenge of guessing the midpoint ? So he/she is way LESS interested in grids, coordinates, axis, equations etc etc. ! And way^2 less interested in knowing the solution but his/her marks in Math ONLY

- how is it possible to *meaningfully* link your Math challenges to those challenges the students see as *meaningful* ? Not simply *real life* challenges but meaningful challenges !

- my second question leads to what I think is the real bottleneck in today&#039;s education: the constraints of overwhelming CURRICULUMS !

- closing remark: is there any *feasible* way in today&#039;s pressured classrooms to go *deep* instead of going *shallow* ?

Thanks so much for your great work, Dan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ddmeyer I mainly back your approach.<br />
Now a few notes (hope this helps improving the discussion here):</p>
<p>&#8211; how many times a student is definitely NOT interested in the challenge of guessing the midpoint ? So he/she is way LESS interested in grids, coordinates, axis, equations etc etc. ! And way^2 less interested in knowing the solution but his/her marks in Math ONLY</p>
<p>&#8211; how is it possible to *meaningfully* link your Math challenges to those challenges the students see as *meaningful* ? Not simply *real life* challenges but meaningful challenges !</p>
<p>&#8211; my second question leads to what I think is the real bottleneck in today&#8217;s education: the constraints of overwhelming CURRICULUMS !</p>
<p>&#8211; closing remark: is there any *feasible* way in today&#8217;s pressured classrooms to go *deep* instead of going *shallow* ?</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your great work, Dan.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-571918</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to fully disclose that when I recommended http://k12meets.com,/ there&#039;s no financial relationship between them and the Math Forum (where I work). K12Meets was founded by Drexel Law School folks, and the Math Forum is part of Drexel&#039;s School of Ed. But we aren&#039;t financially or personell-wise connected. We do think their technology is cool and we may use it in the future for some online coursework and professional development, and would love to partner with them on future projects, but my recommendation was not intended to promote any interests of the Math Forum or Drexel University.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to fully disclose that when I recommended <a href="http://k12meets.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://k12meets.com/</a>, there&#8217;s no financial relationship between them and the Math Forum (where I work). K12Meets was founded by Drexel Law School folks, and the Math Forum is part of Drexel&#8217;s School of Ed. But we aren&#8217;t financially or personell-wise connected. We do think their technology is cool and we may use it in the future for some online coursework and professional development, and would love to partner with them on future projects, but my recommendation was not intended to promote any interests of the Math Forum or Drexel University.</p>
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		By: Andrew Browning-Couch		</title>
		<link>/2012/better-online-math/#comment-571868</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Browning-Couch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Students ask &quot;Why am I learning this?&quot; because they feel stupid and small, not because they want you to force a context onto the mathematics.&#039;

This is such a profound statement.  Sometimes this frustration turns itself into disruptions and behavior issues (the &quot;If-I&#039;m-in-the-principal&#039;s-office-then-I-don&#039;t have-to-answer-that-question&quot; Syndrome), but for some students it really does surface in the &quot;Why?&quot; question.  Thanks for helping me think deeper about my classroom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Students ask &#8220;Why am I learning this?&#8221; because they feel stupid and small, not because they want you to force a context onto the mathematics.&#8217;</p>
<p>This is such a profound statement.  Sometimes this frustration turns itself into disruptions and behavior issues (the &#8220;If-I&#8217;m-in-the-principal&#8217;s-office-then-I-don&#8217;t have-to-answer-that-question&#8221; Syndrome), but for some students it really does surface in the &#8220;Why?&#8221; question.  Thanks for helping me think deeper about my classroom.</p>
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