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		By: Joel Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I teach in a very cash-strapped school in the Watts district of Los Angeles. If I had 15 ipads I would probably cry tears of joy. Also, all of the airserver stuff is garbage. Apple TV airplay has improved to the point that I can use it everyday. I use my ipad as an overhead projector on penultimate, as a portable document camera, as an interactive unit circle, and as an acces point to my Logger pro suite. All of my presentations are run from my ipad or iphone 4s. When students share solutions or graphs with the class, I either hand them one of my devices or they log in to apple tv and use the doc cam or a graphing program. Apple has eliminated a lot of the connectivity issues. Having more than one ipad for every 4 students probably represents some point of diminishing returns. If I had one for every four kids that would be great, but generally the abundance of other ios airplay devices makes the system work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach in a very cash-strapped school in the Watts district of Los Angeles. If I had 15 ipads I would probably cry tears of joy. Also, all of the airserver stuff is garbage. Apple TV airplay has improved to the point that I can use it everyday. I use my ipad as an overhead projector on penultimate, as a portable document camera, as an interactive unit circle, and as an acces point to my Logger pro suite. All of my presentations are run from my ipad or iphone 4s. When students share solutions or graphs with the class, I either hand them one of my devices or they log in to apple tv and use the doc cam or a graphing program. Apple has eliminated a lot of the connectivity issues. Having more than one ipad for every 4 students probably represents some point of diminishing returns. If I had one for every four kids that would be great, but generally the abundance of other ios airplay devices makes the system work.</p>
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		By: a different Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a different Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chromebooks that are normally $430 can be obtained through $99 of DonorsChoose funding right now:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/chromebooks-for-classrooms-99-for_10.html

Definitely relevant to the problem of how long it takes for everyone to get their computers out and ready: these Chromebooks have a start-up time of about 6 seconds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chromebooks that are normally $430 can be obtained through $99 of DonorsChoose funding right now:</p>
<p><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/chromebooks-for-classrooms-99-for_10.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/chromebooks-for-classrooms-99-for_10.html</a></p>
<p>Definitely relevant to the problem of how long it takes for everyone to get their computers out and ready: these Chromebooks have a start-up time of about 6 seconds.</p>
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		By: Common Core Teacher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Common Core Teacher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can definitely relate to Kate&#039;s gut instinct to avoid using tech tools whenever possible -- the time-suck that usually occurs directly affects the amount of time I can put into quality literacy instruction. When my kids are dealing with a downed server or lagging video or whatever else the issue is, they are not reading or writing--they are just muddling through computer issues.

Because of this, I try to keep usage of our classroom netbooks to times when they are absolutely necessary. As a result of this approach, my students tend to show greater gains in reading and writing by trimester&#039;s end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can definitely relate to Kate&#8217;s gut instinct to avoid using tech tools whenever possible &#8212; the time-suck that usually occurs directly affects the amount of time I can put into quality literacy instruction. When my kids are dealing with a downed server or lagging video or whatever else the issue is, they are not reading or writing&#8211;they are just muddling through computer issues.</p>
<p>Because of this, I try to keep usage of our classroom netbooks to times when they are absolutely necessary. As a result of this approach, my students tend to show greater gains in reading and writing by trimester&#8217;s end.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The featured comments from &lt;strong&gt;David Wees&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Garth&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong&gt;Tom&lt;/strong&gt; eclipsed the length of the post. Thanks, team.

Also, my hat is off to &lt;strong&gt;Jonathan&#039;s&lt;/strong&gt; persistence in the face of technology that is doing its best to destroy him. Cobbling a technology solution together out of shoe polish, braided twigs, and WebDAV connections might work on a hyper-local level but this post is interested specifically in national calls for more technology integration when, in fact, it&#039;s much harder than they think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The featured comments from <strong>David Wees</strong>, <strong>Garth</strong>, and <strong>Tom</strong> eclipsed the length of the post. Thanks, team.</p>
<p>Also, my hat is off to <strong>Jonathan&#8217;s</strong> persistence in the face of technology that is doing its best to destroy him. Cobbling a technology solution together out of shoe polish, braided twigs, and WebDAV connections might work on a hyper-local level but this post is interested specifically in national calls for more technology integration when, in fact, it&#8217;s much harder than they think.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
		<link>/2012/harder-than-you-think/#comment-607434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Brian

Initially I shied away from Google Docs because the iPad experience was quite terrible. It seems they&#039;ve done an overall and thrown their weight behind a native Google Drive interface. It&#039;s not as pretty as Numbers but offers simultaneous editing, something iCloud freaks out about. Though I only used a spreadsheet for two activities this year and keeping the records by hand would&#039;ve been just as easy. Promising for the English/Social Studies crowd though.

@eric

Thanks, this is all a work in progress. I was one of many who thought our approach was doomed, and I&#039;m upset that I&#039;ve had to go to such crazy lengths to get it working. I would&#039;ve much preferred two additoanl iPads over the 4 netbooks. The shortcomings of my supplied laptop got to be too much years ago. And unfortunately not everyone has the option to ditch it, so that&#039;s holding people back as well. iCloud isn&#039;t quite as rosy to deal with on Windows. Rumors of 13&quot; MBAs are floating around, but that won&#039;t change anything about the giant hurdles most staff have to overcome. In fact initially it will probably be worse.

Despite how all this tech stuff is going, my happiest days in the classroom are when they work with pencil, paper, and marker to make posters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian</p>
<p>Initially I shied away from Google Docs because the iPad experience was quite terrible. It seems they&#8217;ve done an overall and thrown their weight behind a native Google Drive interface. It&#8217;s not as pretty as Numbers but offers simultaneous editing, something iCloud freaks out about. Though I only used a spreadsheet for two activities this year and keeping the records by hand would&#8217;ve been just as easy. Promising for the English/Social Studies crowd though.</p>
<p>@eric</p>
<p>Thanks, this is all a work in progress. I was one of many who thought our approach was doomed, and I&#8217;m upset that I&#8217;ve had to go to such crazy lengths to get it working. I would&#8217;ve much preferred two additoanl iPads over the 4 netbooks. The shortcomings of my supplied laptop got to be too much years ago. And unfortunately not everyone has the option to ditch it, so that&#8217;s holding people back as well. iCloud isn&#8217;t quite as rosy to deal with on Windows. Rumors of 13&#8243; MBAs are floating around, but that won&#8217;t change anything about the giant hurdles most staff have to overcome. In fact initially it will probably be worse.</p>
<p>Despite how all this tech stuff is going, my happiest days in the classroom are when they work with pencil, paper, and marker to make posters.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is my huge problem.]]></description>
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		By: Sue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Garth
Education is a flame to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled ~ Socrates 

I teach 9 and 10-year old kids, but I find that whatever I let them do using technology gets them motivated, and thinking.  And they are fearless about trying new things.  It&#039;s a matter of time, both for the kids and for me.  But they go home and keep working on what we were doing in school, and often teach me new ways to do things.  Maybe with older kids, there are so many demands on everyone that you don&#039;t have the luxury of time, and I&#039;m not using iPads or specific apps that they might not have access to at home.  

I don&#039;t have a solution to all the tech issues that people have, but I would have to say it is so worthwhile to keep trying.  Find people that are making it work in your district, ask for help from your tech support staff, bug your administrators to get you the resources you need, and, probably most importantly, listen to the kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Garth<br />
Education is a flame to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled ~ Socrates </p>
<p>I teach 9 and 10-year old kids, but I find that whatever I let them do using technology gets them motivated, and thinking.  And they are fearless about trying new things.  It&#8217;s a matter of time, both for the kids and for me.  But they go home and keep working on what we were doing in school, and often teach me new ways to do things.  Maybe with older kids, there are so many demands on everyone that you don&#8217;t have the luxury of time, and I&#8217;m not using iPads or specific apps that they might not have access to at home.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a solution to all the tech issues that people have, but I would have to say it is so worthwhile to keep trying.  Find people that are making it work in your district, ask for help from your tech support staff, bug your administrators to get you the resources you need, and, probably most importantly, listen to the kids.</p>
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		By: Garth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it possible that those teachers that are putting the tech on the shelf because it is interrupting their content teaching are going the wrong way?  Is it possible that teaching content with tech more important than teaching content?  Educational heresy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that those teachers that are putting the tech on the shelf because it is interrupting their content teaching are going the wrong way?  Is it possible that teaching content with tech more important than teaching content?  Educational heresy!</p>
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		By: Ian H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Count me in as one of the tech-savvy teachers who looks for alternatives instead of using tech. Our network is slow, the devices need troubleshooting about a third of the time, and even when students are using their own device on the school WiFi, many of the sites I planned on using are blocked, because teachers and students have different access rights.  Bring out the books and the overhead projector :) .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in as one of the tech-savvy teachers who looks for alternatives instead of using tech. Our network is slow, the devices need troubleshooting about a third of the time, and even when students are using their own device on the school WiFi, many of the sites I planned on using are blocked, because teachers and students have different access rights.  Bring out the books and the overhead projector :) .</p>
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		By: Cathy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our school district went one-to-one with iPads, starting last year at the high school level.  This year we have expanded this initiative to include every student from grades 8 through 12.  Perhaps my glasses are rosey, but I can&#039;t say enough positive things about this move.

Don&#039;t get me wrong - I have encountered some difficulties with our network, as well as a HUGE learning curve and shift in thinking/planning, but with nearly a semester under my belt, and experiences with some amazing apps, I&#039;m loving it, and so are my students.

Socrative and Nearpod have helped immensely with formative and summative assessment.  I feel like I know my students in real-time in ways I have not thus far.  Sure, Socrative lacks math symbols, but having to use &quot;^&quot; or &quot;sqrt&quot; is a small inconvenience when compared to the immediate, color-coded data that appears in my inbox instantaneously, and helps direct my teaching... not tomorrow, but today.  

Though my objective has never to be &quot;paperless&quot; in a mathematics classroom, we have used apps like DocAS to annotate PDFs when it made sense to do so.  I&#039;m also using the HMH Fuse Algebra I Common Core app as a textbook - content is nearly identical to the physical books my students already had, but interactive features with immediate feedback have elevated the experience a bit.  And again... when students work a problem using the &quot;scratchpad&quot; feature, or take one of the &quot;Ready to Go On?&quot; quizzes within the app, the data comes to me.  For me, having iPads has impacted formative assessment in a very big way.

If you&#039;d like to see more about how we&#039;re using iPads, check out my blog: mathycathy.com/blog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our school district went one-to-one with iPads, starting last year at the high school level.  This year we have expanded this initiative to include every student from grades 8 through 12.  Perhaps my glasses are rosey, but I can&#8217;t say enough positive things about this move.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I have encountered some difficulties with our network, as well as a HUGE learning curve and shift in thinking/planning, but with nearly a semester under my belt, and experiences with some amazing apps, I&#8217;m loving it, and so are my students.</p>
<p>Socrative and Nearpod have helped immensely with formative and summative assessment.  I feel like I know my students in real-time in ways I have not thus far.  Sure, Socrative lacks math symbols, but having to use &#8220;^&#8221; or &#8220;sqrt&#8221; is a small inconvenience when compared to the immediate, color-coded data that appears in my inbox instantaneously, and helps direct my teaching&#8230; not tomorrow, but today.  </p>
<p>Though my objective has never to be &#8220;paperless&#8221; in a mathematics classroom, we have used apps like DocAS to annotate PDFs when it made sense to do so.  I&#8217;m also using the HMH Fuse Algebra I Common Core app as a textbook &#8211; content is nearly identical to the physical books my students already had, but interactive features with immediate feedback have elevated the experience a bit.  And again&#8230; when students work a problem using the &#8220;scratchpad&#8221; feature, or take one of the &#8220;Ready to Go On?&#8221; quizzes within the app, the data comes to me.  For me, having iPads has impacted formative assessment in a very big way.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to see more about how we&#8217;re using iPads, check out my blog: mathycathy.com/blog</p>
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