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		By: Timon Piccini		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Dan 

Here is a free and awesome resource that I have yet to fully read.

http://www.innovationunit.org/sites/default/files/Teacher&#039;s%20Guide%20to%20Project-based%20Learning.pdf

Pg. 58 has the tuning protocol.  I would foresee taking our 3-Acts and turning them into projects, rather than lessons. I.E. my pop box dimensions turning that into students creating now pop cans and boxes etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan </p>
<p>Here is a free and awesome resource that I have yet to fully read.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.innovationunit.org/sites/default/files/Teacher&#039;s%20Guide%20to%20Project-based%20Learning.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.innovationunit.org/sites/default/files/Teacher&#039;s%20Guide%20to%20Project-based%20Learning.pdf</a></p>
<p>Pg. 58 has the tuning protocol.  I would foresee taking our 3-Acts and turning them into projects, rather than lessons. I.E. my pop box dimensions turning that into students creating now pop cans and boxes etc.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Timon&lt;/strong&gt;, hook up some details on HTH&#039;s project protocol, okay?

In my PD, FWIW, the first hour is spent &lt;em&gt;doing&lt;/em&gt; a three-act task. The second hour is spent creating a script of teacher moves. Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fF1XdTN4mT4fmKU0Gd3ilt1RpfH_ibrmJPYpUTZFFc0/edit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the current example from El Paso&lt;/a&gt;, where I am this very second. It&#039;s possible to speak generally about good things that happen in act two but it is impossible to script as far as I&#039;m concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Timon</strong>, hook up some details on HTH&#8217;s project protocol, okay?</p>
<p>In my PD, FWIW, the first hour is spent <em>doing</em> a three-act task. The second hour is spent creating a script of teacher moves. Here&#8217;s <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fF1XdTN4mT4fmKU0Gd3ilt1RpfH_ibrmJPYpUTZFFc0/edit" rel="nofollow">the current example from El Paso</a>, where I am this very second. It&#8217;s possible to speak generally about good things that happen in act two but it is impossible to script as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s just keep doing what we&#8217;ve always done&#8230; Wednesday 21st March @ Sydney University &#171; Mark Liddell&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Timon Piccini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timon Piccini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of a script. I am working on my questioning skills, but I struggle with asking in such a way that leads students forward. A script would help with that. How do you pro-stars use questioning techniques? Script them first? Are you just so familiar that you roll through? 

One Pro-D I would love to do is an anyqs tweaking session, especially which focuses on questioning. I don&#039;t know how many people are familiar with High Tech High&#039;s project tweaking protocol but it would be amazing to take some 3-Act lessons and collaboratively tweak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of a script. I am working on my questioning skills, but I struggle with asking in such a way that leads students forward. A script would help with that. How do you pro-stars use questioning techniques? Script them first? Are you just so familiar that you roll through? </p>
<p>One Pro-D I would love to do is an anyqs tweaking session, especially which focuses on questioning. I don&#8217;t know how many people are familiar with High Tech High&#8217;s project tweaking protocol but it would be amazing to take some 3-Act lessons and collaboratively tweak.</p>
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		By: BrianM707		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For me with every step along the way - initial question / what info do we need / actual calculations - it has helped to have a script in hand.  The script is basically how I am going to prompt students who meet the intial problem with a level of confusion that dominates their perplexity.  I think the script is important, because although we can all free style our responses, I think it is important to consider what questions student might have at each step along the way, and taylor our responses to be most effective.

For example, in the Ticket to Ride - for students struggling to ask for the proper dimensions, or struggling to correctly calculate the area of the ticket, I always say &quot;what would happen to the ticket roll if each ticket was very thick? (make hand gesture for how thick you&#039;re talking about)  Ok, now what would happen if each ticket was very very thin?  (make hand jesture about how thin you&#039;re talking about).   So what is going to be an important dimension for how many tickets are in a roll?&quot;

I well defined script helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me with every step along the way &#8211; initial question / what info do we need / actual calculations &#8211; it has helped to have a script in hand.  The script is basically how I am going to prompt students who meet the intial problem with a level of confusion that dominates their perplexity.  I think the script is important, because although we can all free style our responses, I think it is important to consider what questions student might have at each step along the way, and taylor our responses to be most effective.</p>
<p>For example, in the Ticket to Ride &#8211; for students struggling to ask for the proper dimensions, or struggling to correctly calculate the area of the ticket, I always say &#8220;what would happen to the ticket roll if each ticket was very thick? (make hand gesture for how thick you&#8217;re talking about)  Ok, now what would happen if each ticket was very very thin?  (make hand jesture about how thin you&#8217;re talking about).   So what is going to be an important dimension for how many tickets are in a roll?&#8221;</p>
<p>I well defined script helps.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You two seem to have this well in hand. I&#039;ll just jump in to say that the second act is a lot of hard work. Will It Hit The Hoop? would be a total drag if I were having students work with pencil on paper, scaling their own axes, and solving for the equation of the parabola. The math would be inaccessible, the reward not worth the struggle. A perplexing first act, for me, is a prerequisite for students giving a damn about the work we&#039;ll have to do in the second, but structuring that work is its own enormous challenge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You two seem to have this well in hand. I&#8217;ll just jump in to say that the second act is a lot of hard work. Will It Hit The Hoop? would be a total drag if I were having students work with pencil on paper, scaling their own axes, and solving for the equation of the parabola. The math would be inaccessible, the reward not worth the struggle. A perplexing first act, for me, is a prerequisite for students giving a damn about the work we&#8217;ll have to do in the second, but structuring that work is its own enormous challenge.</p>
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		By: Timon Piccini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timon Piccini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 16:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew. I think I am just impatient. I want o have these classes now, but I have to remember that I am going through a process just as my students are. I have a long life as a teacher ahead of me.  I liked your idea of. Graphic organizer and I thought that might be too much direction, but I think Middle Schoolers could learn from that and still have an open activity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew. I think I am just impatient. I want o have these classes now, but I have to remember that I am going through a process just as my students are. I have a long life as a teacher ahead of me.  I liked your idea of. Graphic organizer and I thought that might be too much direction, but I think Middle Schoolers could learn from that and still have an open activity.</p>
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		By: Andrew Stadel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Timon,

I hear ya man. When I did my first 3 Act lesson, I was expecting all my classes to be engaged like no other (that was naive). It took some adjusting and some reevaluating, but I learned from that first lesson to improve for the second. I learned that delivery, enthusiasm, and my interest are all important ingredients. I could show them a video of the most amazing thing in the world, but if I get too involved, they quickly abandon their excitement or motivation. If I fault them for not having the same interest as me, I&#039;ve lost them. I found leaving little gaps of silence after the video, or playing dumb when asked a question antagonized the students just enough to want to know more and find out. I challenge the students to find an easy way to the solution because I think my solution is too long, laborious, or difficult and they can do it better. I found that getting really enthused about a student&#039;s &quot;first question&quot; can help ignite others to share their question.   

Graphic Organizer: I prepared a graphic organizer to accompany the learning, keeping students on task, and seeing how they structured their work. 

Yes, the dynamic of classes is insane. One section struggled asking questions, but could do the necessary math in Act 2. However, one section asked the best questions all day for Act 1 and listed the necessary information, but sucked at the math solution part. It varies, and I LOVE that. it keeps me on my game. If it was the same reaction every class, or the same level of motivation every class, I&#039;d get bored too. I would lose my motivation to help students learn. 

Not sure I&#039;m offering a simple fix, because I wonder the same questions you do. It&#039;s an ongoing challenge that I welcome. My fix is to continue going in, learning from my students. I ask them as much as possible to explain what made this learning experience good/bad, boring/engaging, easy/difficult, fun/challenging, etc. They see that I am interested in their learning and their best interests. You can&#039;t always win, but that&#039;s not my goal. My goal is that they understand we&#039;re in this together to learn from each other, and we&#039;re always trying to improve (both teacher and student).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timon,</p>
<p>I hear ya man. When I did my first 3 Act lesson, I was expecting all my classes to be engaged like no other (that was naive). It took some adjusting and some reevaluating, but I learned from that first lesson to improve for the second. I learned that delivery, enthusiasm, and my interest are all important ingredients. I could show them a video of the most amazing thing in the world, but if I get too involved, they quickly abandon their excitement or motivation. If I fault them for not having the same interest as me, I&#8217;ve lost them. I found leaving little gaps of silence after the video, or playing dumb when asked a question antagonized the students just enough to want to know more and find out. I challenge the students to find an easy way to the solution because I think my solution is too long, laborious, or difficult and they can do it better. I found that getting really enthused about a student&#8217;s &#8220;first question&#8221; can help ignite others to share their question.   </p>
<p>Graphic Organizer: I prepared a graphic organizer to accompany the learning, keeping students on task, and seeing how they structured their work. </p>
<p>Yes, the dynamic of classes is insane. One section struggled asking questions, but could do the necessary math in Act 2. However, one section asked the best questions all day for Act 1 and listed the necessary information, but sucked at the math solution part. It varies, and I LOVE that. it keeps me on my game. If it was the same reaction every class, or the same level of motivation every class, I&#8217;d get bored too. I would lose my motivation to help students learn. </p>
<p>Not sure I&#8217;m offering a simple fix, because I wonder the same questions you do. It&#8217;s an ongoing challenge that I welcome. My fix is to continue going in, learning from my students. I ask them as much as possible to explain what made this learning experience good/bad, boring/engaging, easy/difficult, fun/challenging, etc. They see that I am interested in their learning and their best interests. You can&#8217;t always win, but that&#8217;s not my goal. My goal is that they understand we&#8217;re in this together to learn from each other, and we&#8217;re always trying to improve (both teacher and student).</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am trying to figure out one glitch. I notice I get students asking an interesting question, wanting to know the answer, but still not motivated to do the math behind it.  I wonder...

Am I not selling it right?

Am I not scaffolding it right?

Or am I not preparing my class to be motivated right?

Or is it all of the above?

How do I fix this?

I have also noticed entire classes can have a totally different mindset.  My homeroom loves this stuff, but the other class I have are not very engaged (they like rote processes and textbook work). I feel I have the prep down, but I still can&#039;t teach this well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to figure out one glitch. I notice I get students asking an interesting question, wanting to know the answer, but still not motivated to do the math behind it.  I wonder&#8230;</p>
<p>Am I not selling it right?</p>
<p>Am I not scaffolding it right?</p>
<p>Or am I not preparing my class to be motivated right?</p>
<p>Or is it all of the above?</p>
<p>How do I fix this?</p>
<p>I have also noticed entire classes can have a totally different mindset.  My homeroom loves this stuff, but the other class I have are not very engaged (they like rote processes and textbook work). I feel I have the prep down, but I still can&#8217;t teach this well.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/#!/thescamdog/status/179227532296589312&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Scammell&lt;/a&gt; on the ceiling fan video:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I had a class of non academic 10th graders absolutely riveted on the answer video to that one. Wish I had filmed them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/thescamdog/status/179227532296589312" rel="nofollow">John Scammell</a> on the ceiling fan video:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had a class of non academic 10th graders absolutely riveted on the answer video to that one. Wish I had filmed them.</p></blockquote>
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