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		By: Kevin Hall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve Ritter has written an interesting reply to Justin Reich&#039;s post.  See it here:

http://bit.ly/19UgSfW]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Ritter has written an interesting reply to Justin Reich&#8217;s post.  See it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/19UgSfW" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bit.ly/19UgSfW</a></p>
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		By: Kevin Hall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2013 00:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding this: &quot;But it also isn&#039;t clear to me who in the system is incentivized to provide disinterested, broadly-accessible, readable summaries of important studies that help educators make careful decisions with scarce resources based on careful interpretation of existing evidence,&quot; I would say the What Works Clearinghouse is what you&#039;re looking for.  Some would also say RAND.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding this: &#8220;But it also isn&#8217;t clear to me who in the system is incentivized to provide disinterested, broadly-accessible, readable summaries of important studies that help educators make careful decisions with scarce resources based on careful interpretation of existing evidence,&#8221; I would say the What Works Clearinghouse is what you&#8217;re looking for.  Some would also say RAND.</p>
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		By: Jason Dyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to mention:

I&#039;m using the Carnegie books this year (my entire district bought new books for Common Core). Reviews have been pretty mixed; a good amount of it is a more heavily scripted Boaler-esque curriculum but the students are currently used to lecture-and-take-notes so I have some Algebra 2 students who are melting down. The freshmen have been less indoctrinated so appear to be having a better time with Algebra 1.

The Cognitive Tutor questions look exactly like the PARCC questions (same user interface, even down to the color scheme). The same company owns both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to mention:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using the Carnegie books this year (my entire district bought new books for Common Core). Reviews have been pretty mixed; a good amount of it is a more heavily scripted Boaler-esque curriculum but the students are currently used to lecture-and-take-notes so I have some Algebra 2 students who are melting down. The freshmen have been less indoctrinated so appear to be having a better time with Algebra 1.</p>
<p>The Cognitive Tutor questions look exactly like the PARCC questions (same user interface, even down to the color scheme). The same company owns both.</p>
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		By: Mary Dooms		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Dooms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in June I wrote two posts regarding Carnegie Learning asking if it was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://teacherleaders.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/carnegie-learnings-algebra-i-cognitive-tutor-a-game-changer/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Game Changer&lt;/a&gt;. One of the founders of Cognitive Tutor responded. I was also interested in learning what John Hattie had to say on the topic so I posed the question to him in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://teacherleaders.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/hattie-ritter-offer-help-interpreting-carnegie-learnings-cognitive-tutor-research/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow up&lt;/a&gt;post. 

Hattie’s response was, “… It is tough out there making changes and even changes of d&#062; .20 can be worth striving for.”

I&#039;m just a middle school teacher mind you, not a statistician. But I was interested in Carnegie&#039;s claims because the effect size wasn&#039;t &quot;significant&quot;--in my mind. Again I&#039;m not a statistician, nor am I knowledgeable about what is technically deemed significant. 

And this is precisely the point Justin Reich makes.

I welcome more conversation on this topic. Over the summer I read a comment on Diane Ravitch&#039;s blog of how one teacher was directed to implement the program merely as a proctor in her 8th grade class (She did not use the word “proctor”, but that&#039;s how I think she wanted it to be interpreted.) The high school department chair thought the program was all that.

I’m looking forward to the comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in June I wrote two posts regarding Carnegie Learning asking if it was a <a href="http://teacherleaders.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/carnegie-learnings-algebra-i-cognitive-tutor-a-game-changer/" rel="nofollow">Game Changer</a>. One of the founders of Cognitive Tutor responded. I was also interested in learning what John Hattie had to say on the topic so I posed the question to him in a <a href="http://teacherleaders.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/hattie-ritter-offer-help-interpreting-carnegie-learnings-cognitive-tutor-research/" rel="nofollow">follow up</a>post. </p>
<p>Hattie’s response was, “… It is tough out there making changes and even changes of d&gt; .20 can be worth striving for.”</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a middle school teacher mind you, not a statistician. But I was interested in Carnegie&#8217;s claims because the effect size wasn&#8217;t &#8220;significant&#8221;&#8211;in my mind. Again I&#8217;m not a statistician, nor am I knowledgeable about what is technically deemed significant. </p>
<p>And this is precisely the point Justin Reich makes.</p>
<p>I welcome more conversation on this topic. Over the summer I read a comment on Diane Ravitch&#8217;s blog of how one teacher was directed to implement the program merely as a proctor in her 8th grade class (She did not use the word “proctor”, but that&#8217;s how I think she wanted it to be interpreted.) The high school department chair thought the program was all that.</p>
<p>I’m looking forward to the comments.</p>
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		By: Tom Hoffman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just can&#039;t believe any existing program could be a revolution hiding in plain sight given the current testing regime.  If there was one middle school in Rhode Island that doubled their math proficiency in a year after adopting a piece of software, OTHER SCHOOLS WOULD BUY THE SOFTWARE.  It would all be perfectly clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t believe any existing program could be a revolution hiding in plain sight given the current testing regime.  If there was one middle school in Rhode Island that doubled their math proficiency in a year after adopting a piece of software, OTHER SCHOOLS WOULD BUY THE SOFTWARE.  It would all be perfectly clear.</p>
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