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		By: Day 121- Meatballs &#124; Crazy Math Teacher Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Day 121- Meatballs &#124; Crazy Math Teacher Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] today was the first day back after spring break, I thought I&#8217;d remind them of volume in an effective and engaging way while incorporating PrBL and the SMP&#8217;s. It was a great [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] today was the first day back after spring break, I thought I&#8217;d remind them of volume in an effective and engaging way while incorporating PrBL and the SMP&#8217;s. It was a great [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Meatballs &#124; Five Twelve Thirteen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meatballs &#124; Five Twelve Thirteen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] taught Dan Meyer&#8217;s Meatballs 3-act taskÂ this week. It was the first time I&#8217;ve spent an entire class on a 3-act, rather than [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] taught Dan Meyer&#8217;s Meatballs 3-act taskÂ this week. It was the first time I&#8217;ve spent an entire class on a 3-act, rather than [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Math Instruction Philosophies: Instructivist and Constructivist &#124; educationrealist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Math Instruction Philosophies: Instructivist and Constructivist &#124; educationrealist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Meyer: Dan Meyer&#8217;s 3-Act Meatballs Fawn Nguyen: Barbie Bungee Fawn Nguyen  Vroom Vroom Michael Pershan: Triangles and Angles (he calls [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Meyer: Dan Meyer&#8217;s 3-Act Meatballs Fawn Nguyen: Barbie Bungee Fawn Nguyen  Vroom Vroom Michael Pershan: Triangles and Angles (he calls [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: l hodge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l hodge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a an article with a surprising application for&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20131220-nudging-spheres-closer-little-by-little/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sphere packing&lt;/a&gt; .  Turns out you can pack with about 74% efficiency (about half way down in the article).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a an article with a surprising application for<a href="https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20131220-nudging-spheres-closer-little-by-little/" rel="nofollow">sphere packing</a> .  Turns out you can pack with about 74% efficiency (about half way down in the article).</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 02:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, love it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, love it.</p>
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		By: James Cleveland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Cleveland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We just talked about this problem and your makeover at Math for America. One idea was to up the stakes: I&#039;m putting this jar of water on top of a student&#039;s phone. How many balls can I put it before it spills over? If you are sure you are right, put your phone under the jar....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just talked about this problem and your makeover at Math for America. One idea was to up the stakes: I&#8217;m putting this jar of water on top of a student&#8217;s phone. How many balls can I put it before it spills over? If you are sure you are right, put your phone under the jar&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Matt Leiss		</title>
		<link>/2013/makeover-meatballs/#comment-1007724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Leiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just watched part of the orbeez video .. has anyone piped up that it would be great in the &quot;show the answer&quot; and &quot;prove the math&quot; kind of contexts to do this activity or create these videos in a glass measuring cup where you can see the measurements and students can REALLY see the water raise bit by bit. This could be a second video in a set - perhaps it already is; I&#039;m in a coffee shop and am not going to watch through all the videos on mute at the moment. Looks great though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched part of the orbeez video .. has anyone piped up that it would be great in the &#8220;show the answer&#8221; and &#8220;prove the math&#8221; kind of contexts to do this activity or create these videos in a glass measuring cup where you can see the measurements and students can REALLY see the water raise bit by bit. This could be a second video in a set &#8211; perhaps it already is; I&#8217;m in a coffee shop and am not going to watch through all the videos on mute at the moment. Looks great though!</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [Mailbag] Teaching Geometry Inductively V. Deductively		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [Mailbag] Teaching Geometry Inductively V. Deductively]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Franklin Mason: [...]]]></description>
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		By: James Cleveland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Cleveland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, I just encountered a real-world application of this problem (or a similar one).

If my toilet fills up to the brim because it is clogged, how long do I have to wait/how far down does the water have to go before I can put the plunger in without making it overflow?

(The results of a miscalculation are much more disastrous in this instance.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I just encountered a real-world application of this problem (or a similar one).</p>
<p>If my toilet fills up to the brim because it is clogged, how long do I have to wait/how far down does the water have to go before I can put the plunger in without making it overflow?</p>
<p>(The results of a miscalculation are much more disastrous in this instance.)</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Franklin Mason&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;That&#039;s why I&#039;m also a little suspicious when someone continually demands context or application. That makes it seem as if students can&#039;t really enjoy the mathematics for its own sake. Now, I&#039;m fine with context and application. I don&#039;t mean to say that we shouldn&#039;t seek them out. Instead I mean to say that for the most part they&#039;re not necessary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We talked over &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=17227&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about &quot;organizing principles&quot; for a math class. I&#039;d say &quot;make math real world&quot; is as self-defeating an organizing principle as one can find. &quot;Prioritize perplexity,&quot; on the other hand, lets us chase down curious mathematics wherever it lives, either in the world outside the classroom or in the world of numbers and shapes.

While it&#039;s clear to me you prize pure mathematics, it&#039;s less clear to me how you create the experiences around it. Humans like good puzzles, as you say. No disagreement there. But creating those puzzles isn&#039;t a trivial matter.

In the example you chose of deducing congruent opposite angles and sides from a parallelogram&#039;s parallel sides, how do you turn that proof into the sort of satisfying puzzle Lockhart writes about, rather than an exercise assigned by a teacher?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Franklin Mason</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m also a little suspicious when someone continually demands context or application. That makes it seem as if students can&#8217;t really enjoy the mathematics for its own sake. Now, I&#8217;m fine with context and application. I don&#8217;t mean to say that we shouldn&#8217;t seek them out. Instead I mean to say that for the most part they&#8217;re not necessary.</p></blockquote>
<p>We talked over <a href="/?p=17227" rel="nofollow">here</a> about &#8220;organizing principles&#8221; for a math class. I&#8217;d say &#8220;make math real world&#8221; is as self-defeating an organizing principle as one can find. &#8220;Prioritize perplexity,&#8221; on the other hand, lets us chase down curious mathematics wherever it lives, either in the world outside the classroom or in the world of numbers and shapes.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s clear to me you prize pure mathematics, it&#8217;s less clear to me how you create the experiences around it. Humans like good puzzles, as you say. No disagreement there. But creating those puzzles isn&#8217;t a trivial matter.</p>
<p>In the example you chose of deducing congruent opposite angles and sides from a parallelogram&#8217;s parallel sides, how do you turn that proof into the sort of satisfying puzzle Lockhart writes about, rather than an exercise assigned by a teacher?</p>
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