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		By: Three Act Science: Skid mark analysis &#124; Chemistry Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three Act Science: Skid mark analysis &#124; Chemistry Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] though it was designed with a maths class in mind, I incorporated his tire marks task in my Year 10 motion unit. I wanted to give my students some exposure to how our study of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] though it was designed with a maths class in mind, I incorporated his tire marks task in my Year 10 motion unit. I wanted to give my students some exposure to how our study of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Changing texts for the better. &#124; mrcfmoore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Changing texts for the better. &#124; mrcfmoore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Alec		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[#8 Jim: it is.  

It&#039;s just that it&#039;s the wrong way round with speed on the dependent axis making it the inverse of the quadratic kinetic energy equation, n&#039;est-ce pas?  That&#039;s the one tiny thing I didn&#039;t like about this as to me skid length should be a function of speed, the independent variable, but that&#039;s me in full-on hair splitting mode...  Great bit of work yet again Dan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 Jim: it is.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s the wrong way round with speed on the dependent axis making it the inverse of the quadratic kinetic energy equation, n&#8217;est-ce pas?  That&#8217;s the one tiny thing I didn&#8217;t like about this as to me skid length should be a function of speed, the independent variable, but that&#8217;s me in full-on hair splitting mode&#8230;  Great bit of work yet again Dan.</p>
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		By: Paul Gormley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Gormley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now THIS is the reason I follow this blog. I am a criminal justice instructor and many students come to my field as fugitives from math and science. Use of these materials is helping me develop criminal justice contextualized math resources for a class proposal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now THIS is the reason I follow this blog. I am a criminal justice instructor and many students come to my field as fugitives from math and science. Use of these materials is helping me develop criminal justice contextualized math resources for a class proposal.</p>
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		By: David Wees		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

I took some time to re-frame this problem in another way. I don&#039;t know how to produce the third act in a way that would interest kids, although maybe I could use the first three speeds as the data, and the final speed to frame the question.

See http://davidwees.com/content/three-acts-stopping-distance-makeover]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I took some time to re-frame this problem in another way. I don&#8217;t know how to produce the third act in a way that would interest kids, although maybe I could use the first three speeds as the data, and the final speed to frame the question.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://davidwees.com/content/three-acts-stopping-distance-makeover" rel="nofollow ugc">http://davidwees.com/content/three-acts-stopping-distance-makeover</a></p>
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		By: Jim cibulka		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim cibulka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can someone explain to me why this is not a kinetic energy equation (Ek=1/2mv^2)? Question

I&#039;d love to work something like this in if possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain to me why this is not a kinetic energy equation (Ek=1/2mv^2)? Question</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to work something like this in if possible.</p>
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		By: l hodge		</title>
		<link>/2013/makeover-tire-marks/#comment-982090</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l hodge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 05:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing I like about the pictures is that you have to slow down and look at them fairly carefully to get the information you need.  I wonder how many students would choose to use skid distance for the x-axis — speed seems more natural to me.  Either way, those three points don’t provide any meaningful evidence of a non-linear model.  Let&#039;s not pretend that they do.

Evaluating the formula to fill out the table is boring, but not a slam dunk for many students.  Solving for a variable under a radical is not easy even if students have seen it before.  And, if they haven’t seen it before, would certainly qualify as “critical thinking”.  The revision is an easier question — recognizing that speed is related to skid length, using sliders to fit a provided form, and solving graphically.  
 
The Trooper Bob stuff is a bit silly.  The purpose of extending the graph is to see what happens.  Does it get flatter, less flat, will it ever be horizontal, will it turn around, will it rise above 100 mph?  Maybe also look at whether it is a better predictor for high speeds or low speeds by plotting the actual data along with the curve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I like about the pictures is that you have to slow down and look at them fairly carefully to get the information you need.  I wonder how many students would choose to use skid distance for the x-axis — speed seems more natural to me.  Either way, those three points don’t provide any meaningful evidence of a non-linear model.  Let&#8217;s not pretend that they do.</p>
<p>Evaluating the formula to fill out the table is boring, but not a slam dunk for many students.  Solving for a variable under a radical is not easy even if students have seen it before.  And, if they haven’t seen it before, would certainly qualify as “critical thinking”.  The revision is an easier question — recognizing that speed is related to skid length, using sliders to fit a provided form, and solving graphically.  </p>
<p>The Trooper Bob stuff is a bit silly.  The purpose of extending the graph is to see what happens.  Does it get flatter, less flat, will it ever be horizontal, will it turn around, will it rise above 100 mph?  Maybe also look at whether it is a better predictor for high speeds or low speeds by plotting the actual data along with the curve.</p>
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		By: Eric Scholz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 01:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of showing it first, though I don&#039;t think it is a big difference.  What I can&#039;t wrap my head around is the accident.  How many more feet would the car need to brake in order to stop AFTER the point of accident?  It can easily be addressed during the lesson or be a stated speed like all cars were traveling at 20 mph at impact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of showing it first, though I don&#8217;t think it is a big difference.  What I can&#8217;t wrap my head around is the accident.  How many more feet would the car need to brake in order to stop AFTER the point of accident?  It can easily be addressed during the lesson or be a stated speed like all cars were traveling at 20 mph at impact.</p>
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		By: Ignacio Mancera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ignacio Mancera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe a sequel/subsequent activity can be planned using this resource:

http://forensicdynamics.com/stopping-distance-calculator

(or maybe help them buid a model using more data besides the three pictures)

Another interesting thing to done would be to recreate the program that runs in that web page using a spreadsheet or basic programming (depending on the programming skills of the kids).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a sequel/subsequent activity can be planned using this resource:</p>
<p><a href="http://forensicdynamics.com/stopping-distance-calculator" rel="nofollow ugc">http://forensicdynamics.com/stopping-distance-calculator</a></p>
<p>(or maybe help them buid a model using more data besides the three pictures)</p>
<p>Another interesting thing to done would be to recreate the program that runs in that web page using a spreadsheet or basic programming (depending on the programming skills of the kids).</p>
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		By: Beth		</title>
		<link>/2013/makeover-tire-marks/#comment-981319</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked on the problem late last night.  I decided to start with the graph.  You can see my work here:  http://algebrasfriend.blogspot.com/2013/07/makeovermonday-put-on-brakes.html


Looking forward to reading comments here since I am not satisfied with my revision.

Dan, is your first picture - the wreck where students estimate the speed copyrighted?  I might like to use that one if I pursue this problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked on the problem late last night.  I decided to start with the graph.  You can see my work here:  <a href="http://algebrasfriend.blogspot.com/2013/07/makeovermonday-put-on-brakes.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://algebrasfriend.blogspot.com/2013/07/makeovermonday-put-on-brakes.html</a></p>
<p>Looking forward to reading comments here since I am not satisfied with my revision.</p>
<p>Dan, is your first picture &#8211; the wreck where students estimate the speed copyrighted?  I might like to use that one if I pursue this problem.</p>
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