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		By: Angie Sink		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie Sink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a 45 year old college student, who recently passed college algebra course using khan academy. I could not have passed without his knowledgeable math videos. I would love to meet Sal in person to extend my gratitude.

I have always struggled in math, but with his wonderfully detailed step by step videos I was able to make a &#039;B&#039; in college algebra, and let me tell you, I had previously took this class twice and dropped both times because I could not understand, and the teachers didn&#039;t have time to show me each step in detail. 

I truly believe that Khan academy is one of the best math websites out there for learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 45 year old college student, who recently passed college algebra course using khan academy. I could not have passed without his knowledgeable math videos. I would love to meet Sal in person to extend my gratitude.</p>
<p>I have always struggled in math, but with his wonderfully detailed step by step videos I was able to make a &#8216;B&#8217; in college algebra, and let me tell you, I had previously took this class twice and dropped both times because I could not understand, and the teachers didn&#8217;t have time to show me each step in detail. </p>
<p>I truly believe that Khan academy is one of the best math websites out there for learning.</p>
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		By: The education revolution &#8211; Part I: Learning and technology &#124; bitstrategist :: thoughts about 1s and 0s		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The education revolution &#8211; Part I: Learning and technology &#124; bitstrategist :: thoughts about 1s and 0s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] haven&#8217;t achieved mastery). People at the Khan Academy have recognized the opportunity for pattern recognition as a problem in online learning, and there will no doubt continue to be work to solve this problem. Cheating is a deeper concern [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] haven&#8217;t achieved mastery). People at the Khan Academy have recognized the opportunity for pattern recognition as a problem in online learning, and there will no doubt continue to be work to solve this problem. Cheating is a deeper concern [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jason Dyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Dyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;It was an interesting method that involved multiplying the coefficient of a term by its exponent. In other words, he was lucky.&lt;/em&gt;

@Lisa: Did the method work just on the one problem (which can happen with low-tech teaching), or in general (which is a flat-out software bug and the sort of pattern matching that is bad)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It was an interesting method that involved multiplying the coefficient of a term by its exponent. In other words, he was lucky.</em></p>
<p>@Lisa: Did the method work just on the one problem (which can happen with low-tech teaching), or in general (which is a flat-out software bug and the sort of pattern matching that is bad)?</p>
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		By: Lisa Nussdorfer		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-710618</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Nussdorfer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 05:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Plugging away with a student this morning through their comprehension check on the computer generated Algebra I lesson.  Student picked answer &quot;d.&quot;  I inquired how the student came to the answer.  It was an interesting method that involved multiplying the coefficient of a term by its exponent.  In other words, he was lucky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plugging away with a student this morning through their comprehension check on the computer generated Algebra I lesson.  Student picked answer &#8220;d.&#8221;  I inquired how the student came to the answer.  It was an interesting method that involved multiplying the coefficient of a term by its exponent.  In other words, he was lucky.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-705654</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the background info on your program, &lt;strong&gt;Zack&lt;/strong&gt;. I went ahead and added it to the post above. It&#039;s good to hear you guys are posing the procedural development as a necessary component of larger, more interesting problems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the background info on your program, <strong>Zack</strong>. I went ahead and added it to the post above. It&#8217;s good to hear you guys are posing the procedural development as a necessary component of larger, more interesting problems.</p>
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		By: Zack Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

I’ll stay out of this interesting discussion on pattern-matching for now, but I’d like to set the record straight on Summit SJ. Our math model as described as concisely as possible: students spend two hours per day on math; one hour in breakout rooms and one hour in the big room (seen in your picture) where students are working independently. In the breakout rooms, students work on challenging tasks and projects (many of which we can thank you for) that develop the standards of math practice, often in groups and with varying amounts of teacher structure. Development of cognitive skills via frequent exposure to these types of tasks is paramount to our program. It is also in the breakout rooms where students’ independent work — which is mostly procedural practice — is framed and put in context. Students’ know that their work in the big room supports what they do in the seminar rooms and vice versa.

I have no qualms with resources like Khan Academy or textbooks with answer keys that allow students to work relatively independently (although the big room still has 3 teachers available) and most importantly frees up my time to work with students on math practice and cognitive skill development. Like you, we see huge potential in tech that helps students further develop in these areas, either by giving good, actionable feedback to students and/or by giving data to teachers who can then make appropriate instructional decisions. In other words, please keep up your work with Dave Major so we can stop using Google Forms and various other makeshift tools!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I’ll stay out of this interesting discussion on pattern-matching for now, but I’d like to set the record straight on Summit SJ. Our math model as described as concisely as possible: students spend two hours per day on math; one hour in breakout rooms and one hour in the big room (seen in your picture) where students are working independently. In the breakout rooms, students work on challenging tasks and projects (many of which we can thank you for) that develop the standards of math practice, often in groups and with varying amounts of teacher structure. Development of cognitive skills via frequent exposure to these types of tasks is paramount to our program. It is also in the breakout rooms where students’ independent work — which is mostly procedural practice — is framed and put in context. Students’ know that their work in the big room supports what they do in the seminar rooms and vice versa.</p>
<p>I have no qualms with resources like Khan Academy or textbooks with answer keys that allow students to work relatively independently (although the big room still has 3 teachers available) and most importantly frees up my time to work with students on math practice and cognitive skill development. Like you, we see huge potential in tech that helps students further develop in these areas, either by giving good, actionable feedback to students and/or by giving data to teachers who can then make appropriate instructional decisions. In other words, please keep up your work with Dave Major so we can stop using Google Forms and various other makeshift tools!</p>
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		By: Ian Rae		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-704684</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Rae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phil Daro&#039;s point is that teachers are promoting &quot;answer getting&quot;.   So this is much larger than Khan or IPI; it&#039;s endemic in educational practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Daro&#8217;s point is that teachers are promoting &#8220;answer getting&#8221;.   So this is much larger than Khan or IPI; it&#8217;s endemic in educational practice.</p>
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		By: Brendan		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-703512</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael I don&#039;t think it is more difficult, but I think for many they have very little faith in their math abilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael I don&#8217;t think it is more difficult, but I think for many they have very little faith in their math abilities.</p>
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		By: Brendan		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-703510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phil Daro discusses this &quot;answer getting&quot; 
http://vimeo.com/30924981]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Daro discusses this &#8220;answer getting&#8221; </p>
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		By: crazedmummy		</title>
		<link>/2013/pattern-matching-in-khan-academy/#comment-702446</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazedmummy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure about difficulty being the factor. I suspect that figuring out the puzzle is what we are programmed to prefer, and students prefer to figure out puzzles, which is human work, than to repeat rote work that can be easily done with a calculator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about difficulty being the factor. I suspect that figuring out the puzzle is what we are programmed to prefer, and students prefer to figure out puzzles, which is human work, than to repeat rote work that can be easily done with a calculator.</p>
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