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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 04:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s s gt school in aurora,co  Aurora quest k-8]]></description>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[my school got some. one for each class and we are getting feedback from our other classes then we voted and my teacher gave away a money duck to who ever did the best based on the class vote]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my school got some. one for each class and we are getting feedback from our other classes then we voted and my teacher gave away a money duck to who ever did the best based on the class vote</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right, I don&#039;t believe that.]]></description>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[believe it or not my little girl pulled a 50$ bill out last night. I was putting under lights because I was in disbelief but it is legit money. Just a lucky ducky:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>believe it or not my little girl pulled a 50$ bill out last night. I was putting under lights because I was in disbelief but it is legit money. Just a lucky ducky:)</p>
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		By: When you&#8217;re finished changing, you&#8217;re finished. (Benjamin Franklin) &#124; nikkusensei		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When you&#8217;re finished changing, you&#8217;re finished. (Benjamin Franklin) &#124; nikkusensei]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] to engage students by getting them actively involved in a task and discussing their ideas. The ‘money duck’ a real-life consumer item and its potential for use in the classroom provide a convincing [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to engage students by getting them actively involved in a task and discussing their ideas. The ‘money duck’ a real-life consumer item and its potential for use in the classroom provide a convincing [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [3ACTS] Money Duck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] many thanks to everyone who helped me sort out some thoughts on this lesson in our previous confab post, including but not limited to Fawn Nguyen, Robert Kaplinsky, Bowen Kerins, Dan Anderson, and Max [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] many thanks to everyone who helped me sort out some thoughts on this lesson in our previous confab post, including but not limited to Fawn Nguyen, Robert Kaplinsky, Bowen Kerins, Dan Anderson, and Max [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Money Duck &#187; A Recursive Process		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] If you haven&#8217;t read Dan Meyer&#8217;s take on the Money Duck, go ahead and read up. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If you haven&#8217;t read Dan Meyer&#8217;s take on the Money Duck, go ahead and read up. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: 142 &#8211; Money Duck &#124; 180 Classroom Photos		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] If you haven&#8217;t read Dan Meyer&#8217;s take on the Money Duck, go ahead and read up. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Dan Meyer&#8217;s Money Duck problem part 2 &#124; mikesmathpage		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: M Ruppel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan,

Totally love the task design - way more structure than my ill-formed &#039;let them play with it&#039;.

I see you trying to provoke intellectual need for the idea of expected value when you ask kids to pick out what a fair price is for each of the distributions of duck money.

Here&#039;s the big thing I wonder here: is there actually a way to get kids to develop the &#039;formula&#039; for expected value??

I think there is, and this would be in your task right after you have kids pick out that initial fair value.
Of course, I would have the probability distributions shown like you did, but in words:
- Give &#039;em a really easy one - every money duck has a $1 bill. Ask them what it&#039;s worth ($1)
- Give &#039;em a slightly harder one - half of the ducks have $1 bills, half have $5. Ask them what it&#039;s worth ($3)
- A little harder - 75% of the ducks contain $1 and 25% contain 5. Ask &#039;em if it&#039;s more or less than $3 (less) and have them identify what it&#039;s worth (some might get the calculation of $2)
- Now with three - 1/3 of the ducks contain $1, 1/3 contain $5 and 1/3 contain $10. They should be able to find the average value ($5.33)
- Three, a little harder - 1/2 contain $1, 1/4 contain $5 and 1/4 contain $10; this could be the point where they clamor for a formula or they develop the technique on their own

Then, summarize with the formula EV=p1v1+p2v2+...pnvn and then let them practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Totally love the task design &#8211; way more structure than my ill-formed &#8216;let them play with it&#8217;.</p>
<p>I see you trying to provoke intellectual need for the idea of expected value when you ask kids to pick out what a fair price is for each of the distributions of duck money.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the big thing I wonder here: is there actually a way to get kids to develop the &#8216;formula&#8217; for expected value??</p>
<p>I think there is, and this would be in your task right after you have kids pick out that initial fair value.<br />
Of course, I would have the probability distributions shown like you did, but in words:<br />
&#8211; Give &#8217;em a really easy one &#8211; every money duck has a $1 bill. Ask them what it&#8217;s worth ($1)<br />
&#8211; Give &#8217;em a slightly harder one &#8211; half of the ducks have $1 bills, half have $5. Ask them what it&#8217;s worth ($3)<br />
&#8211; A little harder &#8211; 75% of the ducks contain $1 and 25% contain 5. Ask &#8217;em if it&#8217;s more or less than $3 (less) and have them identify what it&#8217;s worth (some might get the calculation of $2)<br />
&#8211; Now with three &#8211; 1/3 of the ducks contain $1, 1/3 contain $5 and 1/3 contain $10. They should be able to find the average value ($5.33)<br />
&#8211; Three, a little harder &#8211; 1/2 contain $1, 1/4 contain $5 and 1/4 contain $10; this could be the point where they clamor for a formula or they develop the technique on their own</p>
<p>Then, summarize with the formula EV=p1v1+p2v2+&#8230;pnvn and then let them practice.</p>
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