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		By: One thing I&#8217;m trying to do better this year &#124; mikesmathpage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[One thing I&#8217;m trying to do better this year &#124; mikesmathpage]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] talking a little bit about this type of geometry problem after looking at this Dan Meyer piece:Â  Developing the QuestionÂ  (see here for the work we did:Â  Reacting to Developing the Question  ).Â Â  That little bit of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] talking a little bit about this type of geometry problem after looking at this Dan Meyer piece:Â  Developing the QuestionÂ  (see here for the work we did:Â  Reacting to Developing the Question  ).Â Â  That little bit of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Creating Math Through Graphing Stories &#124; iPad EdTech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Creating Math Through Graphing Stories &#124; iPad EdTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 01:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] videos on the GraphingStores.com website are great, don&#8217;t get me wrong. However, in a recent blog post by Dan Meyer, he discusses some of the reasons graphing stories doesn&#8217;t do a great job [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] videos on the GraphingStores.com website are great, don&#8217;t get me wrong. However, in a recent blog post by Dan Meyer, he discusses some of the reasons graphing stories doesn&#8217;t do a great job [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Meagen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan &#038; Curmudgeon: 

Here&#039;s a sample lesson of what I&#039;m trying to describe in non-traditional high school level Social Studies. 
Video: http://youtu.be/QjBRNiTmchc?t=55m22s 
Slides: http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/sample-lesson-upinarms 
Handout: http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/up-in-arms-over-the-2nd-amendment

I introduce students to both text and quantitative data from groups espousing two different interpretations of the Second Amendment. Together we answer their questions about the material to aid comprehension. Then I ask them individually to evaluate which position they would support, and identify evidence in defense of their position. No calculation necessarily required, but higher order thinking about real world quantitative information expected. I am ATTEMPTING to verbally walk them through a similar process to what they will see on the GED Social Studies Test Extended Response. The test provides multiple pieces of content on an enduring civics issue, and test takers must develop an argument in their response, citing specific evidence.

Particularly when it comes to diving into the graphs, I think I could better development my questions, if you need another example for &quot;Needs improvement.&quot; I look forward to your constructive criticism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &amp; Curmudgeon: </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a sample lesson of what I&#8217;m trying to describe in non-traditional high school level Social Studies.<br />
Video: <a href="http://youtu.be/QjBRNiTmchc?t=55m22s" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/QjBRNiTmchc?t=55m22s</a><br />
Slides: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/sample-lesson-upinarms" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/sample-lesson-upinarms</a><br />
Handout: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/up-in-arms-over-the-2nd-amendment" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slideshare.net/MeagenHowe/up-in-arms-over-the-2nd-amendment</a></p>
<p>I introduce students to both text and quantitative data from groups espousing two different interpretations of the Second Amendment. Together we answer their questions about the material to aid comprehension. Then I ask them individually to evaluate which position they would support, and identify evidence in defense of their position. No calculation necessarily required, but higher order thinking about real world quantitative information expected. I am ATTEMPTING to verbally walk them through a similar process to what they will see on the GED Social Studies Test Extended Response. The test provides multiple pieces of content on an enduring civics issue, and test takers must develop an argument in their response, citing specific evidence.</p>
<p>Particularly when it comes to diving into the graphs, I think I could better development my questions, if you need another example for &#8220;Needs improvement.&#8221; I look forward to your constructive criticism.</p>
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		By: Reacting to Dan Meyer&#8217;s &#8220;Developing the Question&#8221; post &#124; mikesmathpage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reacting to Dan Meyer&#8217;s &#8220;Developing the Question&#8221; post &#124; mikesmathpage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Yesterday (August 14, 2014) I saw this post from Dan Meyer, which is part of what I&#8217;m sure will be an interesting series:  Developing The Question: Good Work! [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Yesterday (August 14, 2014) I saw this post from Dan Meyer, which is part of what I&#8217;m sure will be an interesting series:  Developing The Question: Good Work! [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Developing The Question: Needs Improvement!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Developing The Question: Needs Improvement!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] BTW: Kyle Pearce got here first. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Simon Terrell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think perhaps a good second question as a follow up to the &quot;amorphous, general &quot; questions might be;
&quot;Can we find the area?&quot;

Let kids have some time to solve the area of one of the shapes, then present those ideas and see if the class can pick out the merits of each solution.  

The addition/subtraction method may be one of those solutions.  Before asking students that third question, perhaps it might be more effective to see if a student came up with that naturally and ask if the class can figure out how/why this method worked.
Allow the class to adopt that method or nudge the conversation in that direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think perhaps a good second question as a follow up to the &#8220;amorphous, general &#8221; questions might be;<br />
&#8220;Can we find the area?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let kids have some time to solve the area of one of the shapes, then present those ideas and see if the class can pick out the merits of each solution.  </p>
<p>The addition/subtraction method may be one of those solutions.  Before asking students that third question, perhaps it might be more effective to see if a student came up with that naturally and ask if the class can figure out how/why this method worked.<br />
Allow the class to adopt that method or nudge the conversation in that direction.</p>
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		By: Curmudgeon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Palkovic:
http://matharguments180.blogspot.com/2014/07/202-what-is-area.html

@meagan said &quot;All I saw on Curmudgeon’s blog were arguments about calculation, not using data to argue about real world topics.&quot; 
That&#039;s true. I started it in January and it has been mostly focused around my own classes and trying to present, sort, and share things that I might use as starters. This coming year, I&#039;ll be teaching the first dedicated statistics class my school has ever had, so I would like to feature some of what you ask for. I&#039;m hoping however, that teachers such as yourself have some data sets and questions to get me started? Always happy to have contributions that I don&#039;t have to filch from Dan, Fawn, Andrew, etc ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Palkovic:<br />
<a href="http://matharguments180.blogspot.com/2014/07/202-what-is-area.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://matharguments180.blogspot.com/2014/07/202-what-is-area.html</a></p>
<p>@meagan said &#8220;All I saw on Curmudgeon’s blog were arguments about calculation, not using data to argue about real world topics.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s true. I started it in January and it has been mostly focused around my own classes and trying to present, sort, and share things that I might use as starters. This coming year, I&#8217;ll be teaching the first dedicated statistics class my school has ever had, so I would like to feature some of what you ask for. I&#8217;m hoping however, that teachers such as yourself have some data sets and questions to get me started? Always happy to have contributions that I don&#8217;t have to filch from Dan, Fawn, Andrew, etc &#8230;.</p>
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		By: Christine Lenghaus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 00:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dan - I read your post before going into class this morning (currently on financial maths eg simple interest and compound interest) so rather than telling them a few formulas - started a conversation about money - if I had $5000 I could put it under my bed for a year (and its buying power would decrease) or ... then we had a discussion on what lending our money to the bank would entail and how much I would get back - so needed to link getting paid for lending money (interest rate), how long I was going to lend them my money (time), how much I had to lend (principal) and how much they would pay me. Then I said but I don&#039;t write all these words what could I shorten them to and how do they relate to each other. A far better start!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dan &#8211; I read your post before going into class this morning (currently on financial maths eg simple interest and compound interest) so rather than telling them a few formulas &#8211; started a conversation about money &#8211; if I had $5000 I could put it under my bed for a year (and its buying power would decrease) or &#8230; then we had a discussion on what lending our money to the bank would entail and how much I would get back &#8211; so needed to link getting paid for lending money (interest rate), how long I was going to lend them my money (time), how much I had to lend (principal) and how much they would pay me. Then I said but I don&#8217;t write all these words what could I shorten them to and how do they relate to each other. A far better start!</p>
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		By: Thanks dy/dan! I now have s**t on my shoe! &#124; PBLNQT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thanks dy/dan! I now have s**t on my shoe! &#124; PBLNQT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Kyle Pearce&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I just re-watched “Time” to see if I could target some of what hurts the development of the question and I can see the “you can always add but you can’t subtract” situation taking place. Too much “adding” has happened including:

- Giving the students the two variables that will be related.
- Identifying the independent and dependent variables by placing them on their respective axis’
- Even the appropriate scale has been introduced&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Feel free to skip my next post! A+ work.

@&lt;strong&gt;Meagen&lt;/strong&gt;, happy to help if I can. I&#039;m struggling with your question, though. Most arguments around quantitative data involve some kind of calculation, whether that&#039;s a calculation of a median, a confidence interval, a linear regression, etc. Without the calculation, we&#039;re just looking at a disorderly pile of numbers. Can you elaborate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kyle Pearce</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I just re-watched “Time” to see if I could target some of what hurts the development of the question and I can see the “you can always add but you can’t subtract” situation taking place. Too much “adding” has happened including:</p>
<p>&#8211; Giving the students the two variables that will be related.<br />
&#8211; Identifying the independent and dependent variables by placing them on their respective axis’<br />
&#8211; Even the appropriate scale has been introduced</p></blockquote>
<p>Feel free to skip my next post! A+ work.</p>
<p>@<strong>Meagen</strong>, happy to help if I can. I&#8217;m struggling with your question, though. Most arguments around quantitative data involve some kind of calculation, whether that&#8217;s a calculation of a median, a confidence interval, a linear regression, etc. Without the calculation, we&#8217;re just looking at a disorderly pile of numbers. Can you elaborate?</p>
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