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		By: Kym Riggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The statement Bill Gates made is clear, simple and true. However, to understand how to &quot;fix&quot; the problem is not.  It is important that teachers recognize both and put some thought into what they can do to change those facts for their own students. 

Ask around your own school to see which teachers have a level of success in the area of motivation and pick their brains to see how/if you can use/modify their strategies to experience success yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statement Bill Gates made is clear, simple and true. However, to understand how to &#8220;fix&#8221; the problem is not.  It is important that teachers recognize both and put some thought into what they can do to change those facts for their own students. </p>
<p>Ask around your own school to see which teachers have a level of success in the area of motivation and pick their brains to see how/if you can use/modify their strategies to experience success yourself.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 01:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Jay&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I find the idea that “today’s youth” are “unmotivated” is bizarre. When teenagers are “hooked” one topic or activity, they are darn near unstoppable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jay</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I find the idea that “today’s youth” are “unmotivated” is bizarre. When teenagers are “hooked” one topic or activity, they are darn near unstoppable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good word. I moved this quote into the main post.</p>
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		By: Jay Fogleman		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2097206</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice collection of quotes, Dan.  I find the idea that &quot;today&#039;s youth&quot; are &quot;unmotivated&quot; is bizarre.  When teenagers are &quot;hooked&quot; one topic or activity, they are darn near unstoppable.  

Good teachers know this.  That is why the veteran teachers that I have worked with first gauge a new teaching ideas or tools  by how much they think their students will buy-in and engage.

Though I am a strong fan of using technology with my students, I learned long ago that technology itself is not a motivator for long, and if students are expected to use technology in the same way day after day (e.g. Rocketship warehousing) , they will balk. In my opinion, the same should prove true for  much of the naive  &quot;blending&quot; and &quot;flipping&quot; that is in vogue these days. We&#039;ll see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice collection of quotes, Dan.  I find the idea that &#8220;today&#8217;s youth&#8221; are &#8220;unmotivated&#8221; is bizarre.  When teenagers are &#8220;hooked&#8221; one topic or activity, they are darn near unstoppable.  </p>
<p>Good teachers know this.  That is why the veteran teachers that I have worked with first gauge a new teaching ideas or tools  by how much they think their students will buy-in and engage.</p>
<p>Though I am a strong fan of using technology with my students, I learned long ago that technology itself is not a motivator for long, and if students are expected to use technology in the same way day after day (e.g. Rocketship warehousing) , they will balk. In my opinion, the same should prove true for  much of the naive  &#8220;blending&#8221; and &#8220;flipping&#8221; that is in vogue these days. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		By: ihor Charischak		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2076517</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s a well established fact that teachers need to motivate students to do their assignments, learn the material presented, etc. However, many teachers expect students to motivate themselves; that is, the teacher’s role is to present and the students role is to learn what is presented. Since the main goal of education is to help students become motivated learners; teachers should share what makes math interesting for them and share that in lesson bytes that encourage learning for oneself. I was a good math student, but not an &lt;i&gt;interested in math&lt;/i&gt; student. I did what was assigned to get an A grade, but I wasn’t inspired to learn math on my own. That happened only after I started teaching math and realized that the textbook alone won’t help the students appreciate math; it would take sharing my interest in math along with activities that encourage students to be mathematicians in an age appropriate way to support student development on their road to becoming self learners. If the teacher and student are partners in the learning enterprise, students are more likely to develop effective habits of personal learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a well established fact that teachers need to motivate students to do their assignments, learn the material presented, etc. However, many teachers expect students to motivate themselves; that is, the teacher’s role is to present and the students role is to learn what is presented. Since the main goal of education is to help students become motivated learners; teachers should share what makes math interesting for them and share that in lesson bytes that encourage learning for oneself. I was a good math student, but not an <i>interested in math</i> student. I did what was assigned to get an A grade, but I wasn’t inspired to learn math on my own. That happened only after I started teaching math and realized that the textbook alone won’t help the students appreciate math; it would take sharing my interest in math along with activities that encourage students to be mathematicians in an age appropriate way to support student development on their road to becoming self learners. If the teacher and student are partners in the learning enterprise, students are more likely to develop effective habits of personal learning.</p>
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		By: Ian Rae		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2072894</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read Gates as saying he has a semi-magic elixir that helps a few. Therefore more work is needed, or another approach...

You and he may be saying the same thing: de-motivation is exactly the problem.  The current school system isn&#039;t motivating students, and apparently ed-tech isn&#039;t doing it either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Gates as saying he has a semi-magic elixir that helps a few. Therefore more work is needed, or another approach&#8230;</p>
<p>You and he may be saying the same thing: de-motivation is exactly the problem.  The current school system isn&#8217;t motivating students, and apparently ed-tech isn&#8217;t doing it either.</p>
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		By: Riley		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2072859</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how &quot;the one thing we have a lot of in the United States is unmotivated students&quot; by itself is blaming the students.  If his next sentence was, &quot;so let&#039;s help teachers understand how to foster motivating environments,&quot; I think we&#039;d all be on the same page, right?

Anyone have a contextualized version of the quotation? Or is the context here just Mr. Gates&#039; other efforts in education?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how &#8220;the one thing we have a lot of in the United States is unmotivated students&#8221; by itself is blaming the students.  If his next sentence was, &#8220;so let&#8217;s help teachers understand how to foster motivating environments,&#8221; I think we&#8217;d all be on the same page, right?</p>
<p>Anyone have a contextualized version of the quotation? Or is the context here just Mr. Gates&#8217; other efforts in education?</p>
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		By: Tere Hirsch		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2071961</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m retired after 35 years teaching middle school. Dan is right, motivation is the key to learning and understanding. My mantra has always been &quot;Nothing succeeds like success!&quot; 
My students became motivated when they &quot;got it&quot;, i.e, understood what they were doing. When I realized this, it became my goal to find as many ways as I could to help them &quot;get it&quot;. That meant, motivation. In my experience  that&#039;s  where it began, with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m retired after 35 years teaching middle school. Dan is right, motivation is the key to learning and understanding. My mantra has always been &#8220;Nothing succeeds like success!&#8221;<br />
My students became motivated when they &#8220;got it&#8221;, i.e, understood what they were doing. When I realized this, it became my goal to find as many ways as I could to help them &#8220;get it&#8221;. That meant, motivation. In my experience  that&#8217;s  where it began, with me.</p>
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		By: Lisa Englard		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2071851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Englard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan is right - it&#039;s all in the hands of the teacher. Just watched this  http://vimeo.com/86455358 posted by http://achievethecore.org/ and was struck by the JOY of the students while working toward making their discovery. As a K-8 Math Specialist I have seen firsthand how bored, unmotivated students come alive when they can pick their heads up from textbooks and worksheets and step-by-step procedures and work on interesting challenges. I have also seen students working with products like Khan Academy who were bored to tears and just wanted to copy the hints from the last problem to get their &quot;right answer&quot; to the next. 

IMHO, education funding needs to go to two places: first to educate parents and caregivers of pre-school children on how to instill a love of learning - waiting until children begin even Pre-K is too late  and the importance of early numeracy is both well documented and easy to accomplish with young, naturally curious and motivated children. Second, to improving teaching. To helping teachers understand math deeply, know how to choose and facilitate meaningful tasks and discourse, and offer helpful feedback that supports learning. Funders are beginning to notice that investing in teaching is the only way to create real institutional change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan is right &#8211; it&#8217;s all in the hands of the teacher. Just watched this </p>
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<p>posted by <a href="http://achievethecore.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://achievethecore.org/</a> and was struck by the JOY of the students while working toward making their discovery. As a K-8 Math Specialist I have seen firsthand how bored, unmotivated students come alive when they can pick their heads up from textbooks and worksheets and step-by-step procedures and work on interesting challenges. I have also seen students working with products like Khan Academy who were bored to tears and just wanted to copy the hints from the last problem to get their &#8220;right answer&#8221; to the next. </p>
<p>IMHO, education funding needs to go to two places: first to educate parents and caregivers of pre-school children on how to instill a love of learning &#8211; waiting until children begin even Pre-K is too late  and the importance of early numeracy is both well documented and easy to accomplish with young, naturally curious and motivated children. Second, to improving teaching. To helping teachers understand math deeply, know how to choose and facilitate meaningful tasks and discourse, and offer helpful feedback that supports learning. Funders are beginning to notice that investing in teaching is the only way to create real institutional change.</p>
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		By: Denis Roarty		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2071802</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I imagine the utility of technology is very different depending on whether we are talking about extrinsic or intrinsic motivation.  What does research say about this? 

I imagine kids/adults who are extrinsically motivated to complete some assignment would have different learning outcomes than those who are intrinsically motivated.  Extrinsic would seem to get you through some of the lower level thinking skills and teachers have a lot of control over this.  Intrinsic seems to be necessary to reach higher level thinking skills, and hence is more valuable, but requires perhaps a less direct but more skillful role on the part of the teacher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine the utility of technology is very different depending on whether we are talking about extrinsic or intrinsic motivation.  What does research say about this? </p>
<p>I imagine kids/adults who are extrinsically motivated to complete some assignment would have different learning outcomes than those who are intrinsically motivated.  Extrinsic would seem to get you through some of the lower level thinking skills and teachers have a lot of control over this.  Intrinsic seems to be necessary to reach higher level thinking skills, and hence is more valuable, but requires perhaps a less direct but more skillful role on the part of the teacher.</p>
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		By: Jason Dyer		</title>
		<link>/2014/reformers-on-motivation/#comment-2068526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Dyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;We just need a better class of students.&lt;/em&gt;

For ed people with that attitude I think there&#039;s some Country Envy involved here.  If only the students were like {insert country X here where the students all sit quietly and take notes and have no behavioral issues} then everything would be perfect.

Nevermind people in those countries aren&#039;t happy either -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/world/2011-02-01-asia_education01_ST_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;for example&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;What the Chinese are very good at doing is achieving short-term goals,&quot; says Jiang Xueqin, deputy principal of Peking University High School, affiliated with Beijing&#039;s Peking University, known as the &quot;Harvard&quot; of China. &quot;They&#039;re good at copying things, not creating them.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We just need a better class of students.</em></p>
<p>For ed people with that attitude I think there&#8217;s some Country Envy involved here.  If only the students were like {insert country X here where the students all sit quietly and take notes and have no behavioral issues} then everything would be perfect.</p>
<p>Nevermind people in those countries aren&#8217;t happy either &#8212; <a href="http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/world/2011-02-01-asia_education01_ST_N.htm" rel="nofollow">for example</a>:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;What the Chinese are very good at doing is achieving short-term goals,&#8221; says Jiang Xueqin, deputy principal of Peking University High School, affiliated with Beijing&#8217;s Peking University, known as the &#8220;Harvard&#8221; of China. &#8220;They&#8217;re good at copying things, not creating them.&#8221;</em></p>
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