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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Testify		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Testify]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2016 21:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I care about Talking Points much less than Elizabeth Statmore. I care about math mistakes much less than Michael Pershan. I care about elementary math education much less than Tracy Zager and Joe Schwartz. I care about equity much less than Danny Brown and identity much less than Ilana Horn. I care about pure mathematics much less than Sam Shah and Gordi Hamilton. I care about sociological importance much less than Mathalicious. I care about applications of math to art and creativity much less than Anna Weltman. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I care about Talking Points much less than Elizabeth Statmore. I care about math mistakes much less than Michael Pershan. I care about elementary math education much less than Tracy Zager and Joe Schwartz. I care about equity much less than Danny Brown and identity much less than Ilana Horn. I care about pure mathematics much less than Sam Shah and Gordi Hamilton. I care about sociological importance much less than Mathalicious. I care about applications of math to art and creativity much less than Anna Weltman. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Magda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[wonderful book. I bought it for my sons published in Polish version.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonderful book. I bought it for my sons published in Polish version.</p>
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		By: Denise Gaskins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise Gaskins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For my daughter&#039;s investigation, yes, it didn&#039;t matter which numbers were used, only how many were in the sequence. Although if you choose the numbers carefully, you can tweak the appearance of your loop-de-loop. 

For instance, we found one 6-number sequence that *looked* like it only had one repetition in the final pattern, instead of two as predicted by the proof. That was because the second iteration went back over all the same lines as the first, but did them in a different order. It was 1-2-1-4-1-2.

And we found that an eight-number sequence (or other, longer multiples of four) can be chosen so that it comes back to the starting point at the end of the first sequence pattern. Then, because it starts the next sequence in the same direction, it will keep going around the circle rather than walk off into infinity.

As a homeschooler, I haven&#039;t had to study the CCSS, so I can&#039;t answer that question. For my dd, there was plenty of mathematical reasoning that involved modeling, vectors, cyclical functions, modular math, multiple representations, and justifying her statements. YMMV.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my daughter&#8217;s investigation, yes, it didn&#8217;t matter which numbers were used, only how many were in the sequence. Although if you choose the numbers carefully, you can tweak the appearance of your loop-de-loop. </p>
<p>For instance, we found one 6-number sequence that *looked* like it only had one repetition in the final pattern, instead of two as predicted by the proof. That was because the second iteration went back over all the same lines as the first, but did them in a different order. It was 1-2-1-4-1-2.</p>
<p>And we found that an eight-number sequence (or other, longer multiples of four) can be chosen so that it comes back to the starting point at the end of the first sequence pattern. Then, because it starts the next sequence in the same direction, it will keep going around the circle rather than walk off into infinity.</p>
<p>As a homeschooler, I haven&#8217;t had to study the CCSS, so I can&#8217;t answer that question. For my dd, there was plenty of mathematical reasoning that involved modeling, vectors, cyclical functions, modular math, multiple representations, and justifying her statements. YMMV.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Denise.    So you&#039;re saying it is as simple as any sequence that has a multiple of 4 numbers in the sequence will diverge and all others will converge?    I was thinking that the lengths involved were important but really it is more about how many numbers are in the sequence and not how long they are?  So cool.  

So as a separate issue, what CCSS math standards does this exploration support?  I&#039;m thinking of sharing this with teachers and it seems strong in art and technology (computer programs the model the sequences) but not so strong in the math standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Denise.    So you&#8217;re saying it is as simple as any sequence that has a multiple of 4 numbers in the sequence will diverge and all others will converge?    I was thinking that the lengths involved were important but really it is more about how many numbers are in the sequence and not how long they are?  So cool.  </p>
<p>So as a separate issue, what CCSS math standards does this exploration support?  I&#8217;m thinking of sharing this with teachers and it seems strong in art and technology (computer programs the model the sequences) but not so strong in the math standards.</p>
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		By: Denise Gaskins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise Gaskins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The modular numbers are a short way of talking about multiples and remainders. 0 mod 4 means the multiples of 4 (remainder 0 when divided by 4). 1, 2, or 3 mod 4 mean the numbers that have those remainders when divided by 4. It&#039;s a useful shortcut when talking about things that occur in cycles.

The 5-4-3-2 pattern has four numbers, so it&#039;s a 0 mod 4 pattern. As you repeat the pattern, each new iteration starts pointed in the same direction as the first one, so it never comes back around. It diverges.

But the 5-4-3 pattern has three numbers. Each time you repeat, the first line is pointing in a different direction, and after drawing the pattern four times, you have come full-circle back to your beginning.

My daughter&#039;s proof is based on seeing the sequence as a roundabout way to describe a vector from point A (start of the sequence) to point B (end of the sequence). With 4-number sequence (or multiple of 4), the vectors all point the same direction, and the patterns walk off into the distance. 

But with the other sequences (not a multiple-of-4 numbers long), as you repeat the patterns, the vectors take a &quot;walk around the block&quot; and come back to where they started. whether the vectors &quot;walk&quot; clockwise or counterclockwise and how many iterations it takes to come back to the beginning can be predicted by looking at how many numbers are in the sequence -- and particularly, at the remainder of that number when divided by four.

Does that help? It&#039;s hard to explain in words, without diagrams...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modular numbers are a short way of talking about multiples and remainders. 0 mod 4 means the multiples of 4 (remainder 0 when divided by 4). 1, 2, or 3 mod 4 mean the numbers that have those remainders when divided by 4. It&#8217;s a useful shortcut when talking about things that occur in cycles.</p>
<p>The 5-4-3-2 pattern has four numbers, so it&#8217;s a 0 mod 4 pattern. As you repeat the pattern, each new iteration starts pointed in the same direction as the first one, so it never comes back around. It diverges.</p>
<p>But the 5-4-3 pattern has three numbers. Each time you repeat, the first line is pointing in a different direction, and after drawing the pattern four times, you have come full-circle back to your beginning.</p>
<p>My daughter&#8217;s proof is based on seeing the sequence as a roundabout way to describe a vector from point A (start of the sequence) to point B (end of the sequence). With 4-number sequence (or multiple of 4), the vectors all point the same direction, and the patterns walk off into the distance. </p>
<p>But with the other sequences (not a multiple-of-4 numbers long), as you repeat the patterns, the vectors take a &#8220;walk around the block&#8221; and come back to where they started. whether the vectors &#8220;walk&#8221; clockwise or counterclockwise and how many iterations it takes to come back to the beginning can be predicted by looking at how many numbers are in the sequence &#8212; and particularly, at the remainder of that number when divided by four.</p>
<p>Does that help? It&#8217;s hard to explain in words, without diagrams&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>/2015/our-fall-contest-this-is-not-a-math-book/#comment-2413104</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Denise, thank you for your proof but I don&#039;t understand it.  I know some basics of modular arithmetic but don&#039;t understand what you mean by 0 mod 4 numbers or 1 mod 4 numbers, etc.  

I know a 5, 4, 3, 2 sequence will diverge but a 5, 4, 3 sequence will converge.  

I would like to understand the proof of being able to predict the behavior of sequences.  Explain it as simply as you can, please.  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise, thank you for your proof but I don&#8217;t understand it.  I know some basics of modular arithmetic but don&#8217;t understand what you mean by 0 mod 4 numbers or 1 mod 4 numbers, etc.  </p>
<p>I know a 5, 4, 3, 2 sequence will diverge but a 5, 4, 3 sequence will converge.  </p>
<p>I would like to understand the proof of being able to predict the behavior of sequences.  Explain it as simply as you can, please.  Thanks!</p>
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		By: Beth York		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth York]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love this book! When it was announced as a new title at our National Convention, everyone in the hall squealed. I have dozens arriving tomorrow for a gifted conference and cannot wait to see their response. LOVE that you held this as a contest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this book! When it was announced as a new title at our National Convention, everyone in the hall squealed. I have dozens arriving tomorrow for a gifted conference and cannot wait to see their response. LOVE that you held this as a contest.</p>
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		By: dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Announcing The Winner Of Our Fall Contest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Announcing The Winner Of Our Fall Contest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] prize, which is 40 copies of Anna Weltman&#8217;s awesome book, goes to John Grade &#038; his [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] prize, which is 40 copies of Anna Weltman&#8217;s awesome book, goes to John Grade &#038; his [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Denise Gaskins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise Gaskins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good question, Joshua. Thanks! It will make her think a bit, but you&#039;re right, she won&#039;t need a hint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Joshua. Thanks! It will make her think a bit, but you&#8217;re right, she won&#8217;t need a hint.</p>
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		By: Joshua		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Denise: can you tell when a sequence of length 0 mod 4 will close up and when it won&#039;t? I can provide a hint, but don&#039;t think your daughter will need it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Denise: can you tell when a sequence of length 0 mod 4 will close up and when it won&#8217;t? I can provide a hint, but don&#8217;t think your daughter will need it.</p>
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