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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/3acts-eight-shots/#comment-2432746&quot;&gt;Nate Garnett&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice! Let us know how it goes if you get a chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/3acts-eight-shots/#comment-2432746">Nate Garnett</a>.</p>
<p>Nice! Let us know how it goes if you get a chance.</p>
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		By: Nate Garnett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate Garnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I plan to use this in a lesson on how to construct a angle congruent to a given angle using compass and straightedge.  I think I&#039;ll zoom in and print off half of the pool shots on a full page to make it more accurate for students who have not had much experience using compass and straightedge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I plan to use this in a lesson on how to construct a angle congruent to a given angle using compass and straightedge.  I think I&#8217;ll zoom in and print off half of the pool shots on a full page to make it more accurate for students who have not had much experience using compass and straightedge.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 04:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome. Happy to hear it about it, &lt;strong&gt;Joel&lt;/strong&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Happy to hear it about it, <strong>Joel</strong>.</p>
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		By: Joel Patterson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel Patterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried the pool bounce lesson this week, Dan, and it was good. Lots of engagement, lots of motivation to get their angles right, plus some fun talk about spin (English). Looking forward to doing the &quot;Make a minimal path from point A to touch a line then go to point B&quot; lesson with my students already understanding this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the pool bounce lesson this week, Dan, and it was good. Lots of engagement, lots of motivation to get their angles right, plus some fun talk about spin (English). Looking forward to doing the &#8220;Make a minimal path from point A to touch a line then go to point B&#8221; lesson with my students already understanding this.</p>
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		By: Steve Walker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so grateful for the improvement this makes to the traditional billiards problems.

I may add an extension that asks students to prove whether we&#039;ll, eventually, sink 2-3 of the shots.  I&#039;ll look to choose one that drops after 3-4 bounces, another that gets stuck in an endless loop, and another that may fall after far too many bounces.  In debriefing the last one, we&#039;ll have to speculate on the impact of striking a corner of the pocket.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so grateful for the improvement this makes to the traditional billiards problems.</p>
<p>I may add an extension that asks students to prove whether we&#8217;ll, eventually, sink 2-3 of the shots.  I&#8217;ll look to choose one that drops after 3-4 bounces, another that gets stuck in an endless loop, and another that may fall after far too many bounces.  In debriefing the last one, we&#8217;ll have to speculate on the impact of striking a corner of the pocket.</p>
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		By: Grant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One activity I&#039;ve done in the past (I think someone mentioned it already) is a laser and target activity. I give students the dimensions of the classroom, the location of the target and a laser and the number of walls/mirrors they must reflect the laser off of to hit the target. It is then their job to use geometry to figure out where on the walls to place the mirrors so that they can hit the target with the laser. In the past, I&#039;ve done this activity after we learned about the angles of incidence/reflection. In the future, I would probably introduce the game before and then ask the students what questions they have/what information would be helpful to achieve this? The laser activity is nice in the sense that the execution only depends on the geometry and the students&#039; ability to measure correctly whereas the pool also requires specialized skills to execute correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One activity I&#8217;ve done in the past (I think someone mentioned it already) is a laser and target activity. I give students the dimensions of the classroom, the location of the target and a laser and the number of walls/mirrors they must reflect the laser off of to hit the target. It is then their job to use geometry to figure out where on the walls to place the mirrors so that they can hit the target with the laser. In the past, I&#8217;ve done this activity after we learned about the angles of incidence/reflection. In the future, I would probably introduce the game before and then ask the students what questions they have/what information would be helpful to achieve this? The laser activity is nice in the sense that the execution only depends on the geometry and the students&#8217; ability to measure correctly whereas the pool also requires specialized skills to execute correctly.</p>
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		By: Kate Nowak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Nowak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just in case anyone finds it helpful, this PBS video is really nice, maybe for follow-up viewing.

http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/lsps07.sci.phys.energy.lightreflect/light-and-the-law-of-reflection/

It explains what a photon is, and then it shows ball bearings and light bouncing off a flat surface.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case anyone finds it helpful, this PBS video is really nice, maybe for follow-up viewing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/lsps07.sci.phys.energy.lightreflect/light-and-the-law-of-reflection/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/lsps07.sci.phys.energy.lightreflect/light-and-the-law-of-reflection/</a></p>
<p>It explains what a photon is, and then it shows ball bearings and light bouncing off a flat surface.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 22:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@&lt;strong&gt;Julie&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for your analysis. I added it to the post.

&lt;strong&gt;l hodge&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Which of the questions, if any, require reasoning? Why not a question or two providing the destination and requesting the initial path?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The contrasting cases require an attention to structure and the ability to generate and defend a hypothesis. The initial exercise requires spatial intuition. The final exercise requires attention to precision. Your question is nice, though.

&lt;strong&gt;Chester&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;After teaching about pool tables, I’m still going to have to cover the material more conventionally anyway, except I now have less time to do it in. I don’t see that helps.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t mind you repeating yourself in every post, &lt;strong&gt;Chester&lt;/strong&gt;. But clearly we come at the project of math education from very different angles. I tend to chalk your frustration with individual activities, lessons, and posts to &lt;em&gt;those&lt;/em&gt; differences, not to the activities, lessons, and posts themselves.

That said, I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; curious which material you&#039;ll have to cover &quot;more conventionally&quot; anyway. The &quot;material&quot; I&#039;ve focused on here is a particular understanding about angles and their application to pool. That material is &quot;covered&quot; in this activity already. It&#039;s just sandwiched in between a couple of other productive and interesting activities.

One could make the argument that those extra activities are an unconscionable expense of time and I will shrug in response and move along. How a teacher spends her finite classroom time isn&#039;t really my business.

One can&#039;t argue that the material isn&#039;t covered, though. 

Just because I don&#039;t subscribe to a program of straight explicit instruction, no chaser, &lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; mean I subscribe to discovery learning, the usual boogeyman in your comments.

My question isn&#039;t &quot;should or shouldn&#039;t we explain?&quot; Rather, &quot;What can we do &lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt; we explain, both to interest students in that explanation and prepare them to learn from it?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Julie</strong>, thanks for your analysis. I added it to the post.</p>
<p><strong>l hodge</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Which of the questions, if any, require reasoning? Why not a question or two providing the destination and requesting the initial path?</p></blockquote>
<p>The contrasting cases require an attention to structure and the ability to generate and defend a hypothesis. The initial exercise requires spatial intuition. The final exercise requires attention to precision. Your question is nice, though.</p>
<p><strong>Chester</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>After teaching about pool tables, I’m still going to have to cover the material more conventionally anyway, except I now have less time to do it in. I don’t see that helps.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind you repeating yourself in every post, <strong>Chester</strong>. But clearly we come at the project of math education from very different angles. I tend to chalk your frustration with individual activities, lessons, and posts to <em>those</em> differences, not to the activities, lessons, and posts themselves.</p>
<p>That said, I <em>am</em> curious which material you&#8217;ll have to cover &#8220;more conventionally&#8221; anyway. The &#8220;material&#8221; I&#8217;ve focused on here is a particular understanding about angles and their application to pool. That material is &#8220;covered&#8221; in this activity already. It&#8217;s just sandwiched in between a couple of other productive and interesting activities.</p>
<p>One could make the argument that those extra activities are an unconscionable expense of time and I will shrug in response and move along. How a teacher spends her finite classroom time isn&#8217;t really my business.</p>
<p>One can&#8217;t argue that the material isn&#8217;t covered, though. </p>
<p>Just because I don&#8217;t subscribe to a program of straight explicit instruction, no chaser, <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> mean I subscribe to discovery learning, the usual boogeyman in your comments.</p>
<p>My question isn&#8217;t &#8220;should or shouldn&#8217;t we explain?&#8221; Rather, &#8220;What can we do <em>before</em> we explain, both to interest students in that explanation and prepare them to learn from it?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Julie Wright		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Several of the textbooks simply assert the principle that the incoming angle of the pool ball is congruent to the outgoing angle. Based on Schwartz &#038; Martin’s work on contrasting cases, I’ll offer students this page as preparation for future instruction.&quot;

OH YISSSS. Such a huge improvement on the originals!

I love this partly because the fake ones LOOK fake, and students have to think about why and are given materials to test their hypothesis. You&#039;re making students refine their intuition to include mathematical precision, which they can then use to solve the rest. I feel like this honors and builds on the knowledge they already have in a way that&#039;s far more motivational than throwing out some big-words statement about angles of incidence and reflection.

Actually, that last statement applies to the whole lesson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Several of the textbooks simply assert the principle that the incoming angle of the pool ball is congruent to the outgoing angle. Based on Schwartz &amp; Martin’s work on contrasting cases, I’ll offer students this page as preparation for future instruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>OH YISSSS. Such a huge improvement on the originals!</p>
<p>I love this partly because the fake ones LOOK fake, and students have to think about why and are given materials to test their hypothesis. You&#8217;re making students refine their intuition to include mathematical precision, which they can then use to solve the rest. I feel like this honors and builds on the knowledge they already have in a way that&#8217;s far more motivational than throwing out some big-words statement about angles of incidence and reflection.</p>
<p>Actually, that last statement applies to the whole lesson.</p>
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		By: Ethan P Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ethan P Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with some other folks here that the &quot;contrasting cases&quot; inclusion is wonderful. It demonstrates that, even when we are building new understanding with students, we do not need to feed them classic direct instruction. They can still reason with patterns before we give them specific notation or language for this new math knowledge. Really great illustration there!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some other folks here that the &#8220;contrasting cases&#8221; inclusion is wonderful. It demonstrates that, even when we are building new understanding with students, we do not need to feed them classic direct instruction. They can still reason with patterns before we give them specific notation or language for this new math knowledge. Really great illustration there!</p>
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