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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430142&quot;&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m pretty sure people do actually do Maths based on such situations as the boiling point one. There are several web sites that talk about how to calibrate thermometers based on the boiling point of water at a given altitude.

One even gave this piece of information &quot;The boiling point lowers about 0.6ÂºC (1ÂºF) for each 168 meters (550 feet) above sea level&quot; which I think is a nice context for linear graphs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430142">Rob</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure people do actually do Maths based on such situations as the boiling point one. There are several web sites that talk about how to calibrate thermometers based on the boiling point of water at a given altitude.</p>
<p>One even gave this piece of information &#8220;The boiling point lowers about 0.6ÂºC (1ÂºF) for each 168 meters (550 feet) above sea level&#8221; which I think is a nice context for linear graphs.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 23:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430171&quot;&gt;William Carey&lt;/a&gt;.

Oo. Yeah. This all seems really constructive. Let&#039;s do this in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430171">William Carey</a>.</p>
<p>Oo. Yeah. This all seems really constructive. Let&#8217;s do this in the future.</p>
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		By: Trevor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rachel--high five for starting arguments in math class! Love it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel&#8211;high five for starting arguments in math class! Love it.</p>
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		By: Rachel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430171&quot;&gt;William Carey&lt;/a&gt;.

You could also invert the question the other way say &quot;In xyz scenario, which one of these would be most helpful: mean, median, mode, range, or standard deviation?&quot; If you&#039;re lucky, you&#039;ll start an argument during which the students have to explain why their choice is best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430171">William Carey</a>.</p>
<p>You could also invert the question the other way say &#8220;In xyz scenario, which one of these would be most helpful: mean, median, mode, range, or standard deviation?&#8221; If you&#8217;re lucky, you&#8217;ll start an argument during which the students have to explain why their choice is best.</p>
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		By: William Carey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Carey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interesting follow on to these might be to invert the question: What context would make that task necessary?

Are there any circumstances when you care about the mean, median, mode, range, and standard deviation of a set of numbers? I can think of contexts where you care about a couple of those, but all of them? That&#039;s hard.

And if I can&#039;t think of a context where the task is necessary, does that mean the task is bad in some way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting follow on to these might be to invert the question: What context would make that task necessary?</p>
<p>Are there any circumstances when you care about the mean, median, mode, range, and standard deviation of a set of numbers? I can think of contexts where you care about a couple of those, but all of them? That&#8217;s hard.</p>
<p>And if I can&#8217;t think of a context where the task is necessary, does that mean the task is bad in some way?</p>
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		By: melissa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430146&quot;&gt;Mr K&lt;/a&gt;.

We should just make the animals be gelatinous cubes -- then the right kind of model is pretty obvious but at least it&#039;s a more entertaining problem: You&#039;re on a dungeon crawl and you encounter two gelatinous cubes, one 4m on a side and one 6m. You have {insert name of coldness spell here -- Cone of Coldness I think?}, which will decrease the temperature of the air around one of the cubes to {some temperature} for {some number of seconds}. Which cube will get the most damage from this spell and why? How much damage?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430146">Mr K</a>.</p>
<p>We should just make the animals be gelatinous cubes &#8212; then the right kind of model is pretty obvious but at least it&#8217;s a more entertaining problem: You&#8217;re on a dungeon crawl and you encounter two gelatinous cubes, one 4m on a side and one 6m. You have {insert name of coldness spell here &#8212; Cone of Coldness I think?}, which will decrease the temperature of the air around one of the cubes to {some temperature} for {some number of seconds}. Which cube will get the most damage from this spell and why? How much damage?</p>
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		By: Mr K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 02:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m willing to give the cube animals one a pass, almost.

How stuff scales for biology is pretty damn interesting regardless of the shape of the animal, so you can do some simplifications in the modeling. Sure, it would have been nice if you left that part out, and had the students do it as part of their modeling, but its’ not the worst case of pseudocontext I’ve seen.

The chapter on modeling with logarithmic functions from my Algebra II textbook, on the other hand, was complete ass. There wasn’t a *single* problem where the kids had to actually figure out a model - they just verified that the numbers in a given table matched a provided function. I skipped it, because ass. Will hunt down actual real world data sets and have them decide on the models instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m willing to give the cube animals one a pass, almost.</p>
<p>How stuff scales for biology is pretty damn interesting regardless of the shape of the animal, so you can do some simplifications in the modeling. Sure, it would have been nice if you left that part out, and had the students do it as part of their modeling, but its’ not the worst case of pseudocontext I’ve seen.</p>
<p>The chapter on modeling with logarithmic functions from my Algebra II textbook, on the other hand, was complete ass. There wasn’t a *single* problem where the kids had to actually figure out a model &#8211; they just verified that the numbers in a given table matched a provided function. I skipped it, because ass. Will hunt down actual real world data sets and have them decide on the models instead.</p>
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		By: Paul Hartzer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hartzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430143&quot;&gt;Paul Hartzer&lt;/a&gt;.

Nevermind, I answered my own question. Dang Romans. (I knew &quot;rectangle&quot; literally means &quot;right angle&quot;, but I didn&#039;t know the below.)

Carry on, sir.

From etymonline: 

rectangle (n.) Look up rectangle at Dictionary.com
1570s, from Middle French rectangle (16c.) and directly from Late Latin rectangulum, from rect-, comb. form of Latin rectus &quot;right&quot; (see right (adj.1)) + Old French angle (see angle (n.)). Medieval Latin rectangulum meant &quot;a triangle having a right angle.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/pseudocontext-saturdays-smoke-jumper/#comment-2430143">Paul Hartzer</a>.</p>
<p>Nevermind, I answered my own question. Dang Romans. (I knew &#8220;rectangle&#8221; literally means &#8220;right angle&#8221;, but I didn&#8217;t know the below.)</p>
<p>Carry on, sir.</p>
<p>From etymonline: </p>
<p>rectangle (n.) Look up rectangle at Dictionary.com<br />
1570s, from Middle French rectangle (16c.) and directly from Late Latin rectangulum, from rect-, comb. form of Latin rectus &#8220;right&#8221; (see right (adj.1)) + Old French angle (see angle (n.)). Medieval Latin rectangulum meant &#8220;a triangle having a right angle.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paul Hartzer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hartzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just want to know why the French use the adjective &quot;rectangle&quot; to refer to any polygon that has at least one right angle. :p

From le-dictionnaire: 	DÃ©finition du mot : 
rectangle 

Adjectif singulier invariant en genre 
	(gÃ©omÃ©trie) qui possÃ¨de au moins un angle droit (triangle rectangle)

Nom masculin singulier 
	(gÃ©omÃ©trie) figure possÃ©dant quatre angles droits et quatre cÃ´tÃ©s Ã©gaux deux Ã  deux]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know why the French use the adjective &#8220;rectangle&#8221; to refer to any polygon that has at least one right angle. :p</p>
<p>From le-dictionnaire: 	DÃ©finition du mot :<br />
rectangle </p>
<p>Adjectif singulier invariant en genre<br />
	(gÃ©omÃ©trie) qui possÃ¨de au moins un angle droit (triangle rectangle)</p>
<p>Nom masculin singulier<br />
	(gÃ©omÃ©trie) figure possÃ©dant quatre angles droits et quatre cÃ´tÃ©s Ã©gaux deux Ã  deux</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually like the boiling point one! I&#039;ll admit the picture seems to be illustrating a different set of X-y pairs, but I can totally imagine that a) some team of (pre-digital age) people might be exploring a new mountain, taller than they&#039;ve traveled before, and need to know the boiling point based only on old data, and b) that they would use linear regression to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the boiling point one! I&#8217;ll admit the picture seems to be illustrating a different set of X-y pairs, but I can totally imagine that a) some team of (pre-digital age) people might be exploring a new mountain, taller than they&#8217;ve traveled before, and need to know the boiling point based only on old data, and b) that they would use linear regression to do so.</p>
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