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		By: What is the purpose of math education? &#124; in pursuit of nerdiness		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What is the purpose of math education? &#124; in pursuit of nerdiness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] was reading Dan Meyer&#8217;s latest postÂ Teaching for Tricks or Sense MakingÂ and felt compelled to post for a few reasons. One, I&#8217;ve tackled the topic ofÂ how to teach [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was reading Dan Meyer&#8217;s latest postÂ Teaching for Tricks or Sense MakingÂ and felt compelled to post for a few reasons. One, I&#8217;ve tackled the topic ofÂ how to teach [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chris H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What happens to 0^0?

Based on the first teacher, 0^0 = 1.

Based on the second teacher 0^0 = 0/0 = indeterminent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens to 0^0?</p>
<p>Based on the first teacher, 0^0 = 1.</p>
<p>Based on the second teacher 0^0 = 0/0 = indeterminent.</p>
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		By: Ten Years of Blog Comments &#8211; dy/dan		</title>
		<link>/2016/teaching-for-tricks-or-sensemaking/#comment-2428498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ten Years of Blog Comments &#8211; dy/dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] offer one current example, I posted Cathy Yenca&#8217;s method for teaching zero exponents last week. Forty comments later, my commenters offered two more methods [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] offer one current example, I posted Cathy Yenca&#8217;s method for teaching zero exponents last week. Forty comments later, my commenters offered two more methods [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Xavier B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 06:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another aproach is for maintaining the rule 2^n * 2^m = 2^{n+m}
And another aproach is to see this video [http://somenxavier.github.io/operes-en-tres-actes/Pay-it-forward.html] and notice that in Step 0 there is just Trevor. So 3^0 = 1.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another aproach is for maintaining the rule 2^n * 2^m = 2^{n+m}<br />
And another aproach is to see this video [http://somenxavier.github.io/operes-en-tres-actes/Pay-it-forward.html] and notice that in Step 0 there is just Trevor. So 3^0 = 1.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/teaching-for-tricks-or-sensemaking/#comment-2428370&quot;&gt;Paul Carson&lt;/a&gt;.

Let me encourage us to take the negative times a negative conversation over &lt;a href=&quot;/2013/negative-times-a-negative/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/teaching-for-tricks-or-sensemaking/#comment-2428370">Paul Carson</a>.</p>
<p>Let me encourage us to take the negative times a negative conversation over <a href="/2013/negative-times-a-negative/">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Kathy Howe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathy Howe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2016/teaching-for-tricks-or-sensemaking/#comment-2428370&quot;&gt;Paul Carson&lt;/a&gt;.

How do you explain that multiplying two negatives gives a positive?  I do it by showing the pattern that you get by multiplying a negative by 3, the 2, then 1, then 0, then -1, -2 etc.  I&#039;ve also told students that -7*-5 is asking you for the opposite of 7*-5.  I&#039;d love to hear additional explanations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2016/teaching-for-tricks-or-sensemaking/#comment-2428370">Paul Carson</a>.</p>
<p>How do you explain that multiplying two negatives gives a positive?  I do it by showing the pattern that you get by multiplying a negative by 3, the 2, then 1, then 0, then -1, -2 etc.  I&#8217;ve also told students that -7*-5 is asking you for the opposite of 7*-5.  I&#8217;d love to hear additional explanations.</p>
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		By: Paul Carson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Carson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 08:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting post. This is something I passionately believe in and have done for my tutoring life (16 years). I noticed that students would memorise the rules of indices without being taught why things were. I use a similar approach to explain why 7^0=1 as above. It is one of the first abstract concepts - as teachers we have to admit that. Another one like this is the question of why a minus times a minus is a plus. This is NEVER explained, but I explain it as well so that the student knows that there must be nothing that is not understood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. This is something I passionately believe in and have done for my tutoring life (16 years). I noticed that students would memorise the rules of indices without being taught why things were. I use a similar approach to explain why 7^0=1 as above. It is one of the first abstract concepts &#8211; as teachers we have to admit that. Another one like this is the question of why a minus times a minus is a plus. This is NEVER explained, but I explain it as well so that the student knows that there must be nothing that is not understood.</p>
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		By: Michael Paul Goldenberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Paul Goldenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now having watched (or rewatched) that Tanton video, there are a few important things to note. Whenever he does this sort of &quot;What should this mathematical expression equal?&quot; video (see the one on 0! for another example), he argues along these lines: If you accept this previous law, then it seems to follow logically that THIS definition of said expression should be true.&quot; And then he adds an interesting point: you can choose to accept this result or not. 

Some places he expands that point. I think it&#039;s useful to do that in class. What happens if you choose not to accept that x/0 is undefined for all real numbers x (not equal to 0)? What do we do with 0/0? How about x^0 for non-zero x if you don&#039;t want to accept that it equals 1? 

I think I first raise these sorts of things in my class when we discuss order of operations and why it was important to have universally accepted, yet ultimately arbitrary rules about such things. What happens if the kids across the hall have a different set of rules for order of operations? Big deal or not? 

I&#039;ve been inclined over the last several years to define mathematics as &quot;The Science of What If?&quot; What if we change this definition? What if we restrict ourselves to a smaller domain? What if we look at an expanded domain? What if not all infinities are the same size? 

What we&#039;re looking at here are examples of perfect places for such discussions. The thought of allowing students to watch and accept the take in VirtualNerd video makes me ill. Such a nice young person, so friendly, and so NOT talking about mathematics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now having watched (or rewatched) that Tanton video, there are a few important things to note. Whenever he does this sort of &#8220;What should this mathematical expression equal?&#8221; video (see the one on 0! for another example), he argues along these lines: If you accept this previous law, then it seems to follow logically that THIS definition of said expression should be true.&#8221; And then he adds an interesting point: you can choose to accept this result or not. </p>
<p>Some places he expands that point. I think it&#8217;s useful to do that in class. What happens if you choose not to accept that x/0 is undefined for all real numbers x (not equal to 0)? What do we do with 0/0? How about x^0 for non-zero x if you don&#8217;t want to accept that it equals 1? </p>
<p>I think I first raise these sorts of things in my class when we discuss order of operations and why it was important to have universally accepted, yet ultimately arbitrary rules about such things. What happens if the kids across the hall have a different set of rules for order of operations? Big deal or not? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been inclined over the last several years to define mathematics as &#8220;The Science of What If?&#8221; What if we change this definition? What if we restrict ourselves to a smaller domain? What if we look at an expanded domain? What if not all infinities are the same size? </p>
<p>What we&#8217;re looking at here are examples of perfect places for such discussions. The thought of allowing students to watch and accept the take in VirtualNerd video makes me ill. Such a nice young person, so friendly, and so NOT talking about mathematics.</p>
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		By: Michael Paul Goldenberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Paul Goldenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lots of lovely replies here, and a James Tanton video as the &quot;cherry on top.&quot; :) (I use some of the videos from his Quadratics unit in my intermediate algebra course to great effect). 

I&#039;ve generally argued that if the multiplication and division laws for exponents make sense, we&#039;re forced to decide that for any real number m not 0, m^0 has to equal 1. And that follows from looking at cases like (m^5) / (m^2) = (m*m*m*m*m) / (m*m) = ((m*m*m)*(m*m)) /(m*m) = (m*m*m) = m^3, which agrees with the division law for exponents:  (m^5) / (m^2) = m^(5-2) = m^3.

After students are satisfied that this makes sense, we look at a case (m^3) / (m^3) for non-zero m. Everyone agrees that this should be 1. Then we look at it from the point of view of exponent laws and we get m^0. So the notion that m^0 should be 1 seems sensible. 

Finally, we discuss what happens if m itself is 0. And this gets us to our favorite &quot;dividing a real number by 0 is undefined&quot; situation, something we&#039;ve already endeavored to make sense of from a couple of perspectives (none of which is &quot;that&#039;s the rule&quot;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of lovely replies here, and a James Tanton video as the &#8220;cherry on top.&#8221; :) (I use some of the videos from his Quadratics unit in my intermediate algebra course to great effect). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve generally argued that if the multiplication and division laws for exponents make sense, we&#8217;re forced to decide that for any real number m not 0, m^0 has to equal 1. And that follows from looking at cases like (m^5) / (m^2) = (m*m*m*m*m) / (m*m) = ((m*m*m)*(m*m)) /(m*m) = (m*m*m) = m^3, which agrees with the division law for exponents:  (m^5) / (m^2) = m^(5-2) = m^3.</p>
<p>After students are satisfied that this makes sense, we look at a case (m^3) / (m^3) for non-zero m. Everyone agrees that this should be 1. Then we look at it from the point of view of exponent laws and we get m^0. So the notion that m^0 should be 1 seems sensible. </p>
<p>Finally, we discuss what happens if m itself is 0. And this gets us to our favorite &#8220;dividing a real number by 0 is undefined&#8221; situation, something we&#8217;ve already endeavored to make sense of from a couple of perspectives (none of which is &#8220;that&#8217;s the rule&#8221;).</p>
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		By: What Should Math Teachers Do When They Don&#8217;t Know the Math? &#8211; dy/dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Should Math Teachers Do When They Don&#8217;t Know the Math? &#8211; dy/dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] a comment on my last post, Tracy Zager wrote about a childhood math teacher who responded to one of her questions with, essentially, &#8220;Just go with it, Tracy, okay? [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a comment on my last post, Tracy Zager wrote about a childhood math teacher who responded to one of her questions with, essentially, &#8220;Just go with it, Tracy, okay? [&#8230;]</p>
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