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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a college student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign studying mathematics witha  minor in secondary education, and I totally relate to the term of a mathematical zombie. I feel like throughout college, I&#039;ve lost any purpose of taking advanced math classes while trying to become a high school math teacher because frankly speaking, I won&#039;t teach a high school student what these concepts mean. 
As a result, I&#039;m doing my best to understand the concepts enough to pass each class and not worry about it too much in the future. If you asked me to tell you that a number is prime, I would be able to tell you how to get there, but I would have no reason why it happens. I&#039;m trying to get away from that mindset, and learn what it means to take that extra step and understand the why behind the what so that I can have the same attitude with my students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a college student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign studying mathematics witha  minor in secondary education, and I totally relate to the term of a mathematical zombie. I feel like throughout college, I&#8217;ve lost any purpose of taking advanced math classes while trying to become a high school math teacher because frankly speaking, I won&#8217;t teach a high school student what these concepts mean.<br />
As a result, I&#8217;m doing my best to understand the concepts enough to pass each class and not worry about it too much in the future. If you asked me to tell you that a number is prime, I would be able to tell you how to get there, but I would have no reason why it happens. I&#8217;m trying to get away from that mindset, and learn what it means to take that extra step and understand the why behind the what so that I can have the same attitude with my students.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Justin&lt;/strong&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the process of teaching the content I began to discover the meanings behind many short-cuts that I had memorized throughout the years, and to my surprise, was enjoying it quite a bit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s one of the joys of teaching they don&#039;t tell you about right there. The common understanding of math teaching is that once you max out your understanding of secondary math, you teach from your own frozen, calcified body of knowledge. Not so in your case. &lt;a href=&quot;/2015/the-math-i-learned-after-i-thought-had-already-learned-math/&quot;&gt;Not so in my case&lt;/a&gt;. So nice to have a job that offers so many opportunities for continued growth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Justin</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the process of teaching the content I began to discover the meanings behind many short-cuts that I had memorized throughout the years, and to my surprise, was enjoying it quite a bit.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the joys of teaching they don&#8217;t tell you about right there. The common understanding of math teaching is that once you max out your understanding of secondary math, you teach from your own frozen, calcified body of knowledge. Not so in your case. <a href="/2015/the-math-i-learned-after-i-thought-had-already-learned-math/">Not so in my case</a>. So nice to have a job that offers so many opportunities for continued growth.</p>
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		By: Mathew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 05:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a math major in college studying education, and I guess I would say that mathematical zombies are common in the world, but I definitely feel as though I have had a different experience than some. In my high school calculus class my teacher would often prove to us why certain things were true (very informal proofs) and explain what certain things mean. She wouldn&#039;t just let us know how to calculate something, she made sure we could understand it better. Also I think that in college I have experienced a great deal of revelation of truth in my upper division classes.

Also as a statistics fanatic, I agree that z-scores can be a very confusing idea, but when it comes down to it, it is only confusing because of the Standard Deviation. Something few people can probably explain correctly. I think that if you can explain to a student what the standard deviation means well enough, then it becomes natural to try and measure how many deviations away from the average a value is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a math major in college studying education, and I guess I would say that mathematical zombies are common in the world, but I definitely feel as though I have had a different experience than some. In my high school calculus class my teacher would often prove to us why certain things were true (very informal proofs) and explain what certain things mean. She wouldn&#8217;t just let us know how to calculate something, she made sure we could understand it better. Also I think that in college I have experienced a great deal of revelation of truth in my upper division classes.</p>
<p>Also as a statistics fanatic, I agree that z-scores can be a very confusing idea, but when it comes down to it, it is only confusing because of the Standard Deviation. Something few people can probably explain correctly. I think that if you can explain to a student what the standard deviation means well enough, then it becomes natural to try and measure how many deviations away from the average a value is.</p>
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		By: Justin Dishong		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 03:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually became a math teacher as a &quot;mathematical zombie&quot; and was fully convinced that I would be great at making more mathematical zombies. In the process of teaching the content I began to discover the meanings behind many short-cuts that I had memorized throughout the years, and to my surprise, was enjoying it quite a bit. I started sharing this with my students and was pleasantly surprised when they also found the answer to the &quot;why&quot; questions interesting. I&#039;m still a very young teacher and I have been looking around for resources and/or a community that would help me to pursue and grow in this style of teaching. I just happened to come across your blog tonight and read this post. I teach middle school math, so this was a little out of my league, but I&#039;m excited to check back regularly and read more. Thanks so much for everyone&#039;s insight, expertise, and heart for teaching kids to think deeply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually became a math teacher as a &#8220;mathematical zombie&#8221; and was fully convinced that I would be great at making more mathematical zombies. In the process of teaching the content I began to discover the meanings behind many short-cuts that I had memorized throughout the years, and to my surprise, was enjoying it quite a bit. I started sharing this with my students and was pleasantly surprised when they also found the answer to the &#8220;why&#8221; questions interesting. I&#8217;m still a very young teacher and I have been looking around for resources and/or a community that would help me to pursue and grow in this style of teaching. I just happened to come across your blog tonight and read this post. I teach middle school math, so this was a little out of my league, but I&#8217;m excited to check back regularly and read more. Thanks so much for everyone&#8217;s insight, expertise, and heart for teaching kids to think deeply.</p>
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		By: Michael Paul Goldenberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It grieves me to say, #Richard, that your experience is typical except that you actually studied math in college at least enough to see a bigger, deeper, more beautiful picture. Relatively few people ever get that far. I&#039;ve had many difficult conversations with students, teachers, parents, and STEM people (who bloody well should know better) on the question of whether &quot;knowing and memorizing the operation IS the math.&quot; It&#039;s not generally enjoyable and only rarely is it productive. But I keep at it because even reaching a handful of people is worth the pain and struggle. And I&#039;d say that&#039;s a lot like studying a challenging subject like mathematics: small successes are worth the pain and struggle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It grieves me to say, #Richard, that your experience is typical except that you actually studied math in college at least enough to see a bigger, deeper, more beautiful picture. Relatively few people ever get that far. I&#8217;ve had many difficult conversations with students, teachers, parents, and STEM people (who bloody well should know better) on the question of whether &#8220;knowing and memorizing the operation IS the math.&#8221; It&#8217;s not generally enjoyable and only rarely is it productive. But I keep at it because even reaching a handful of people is worth the pain and struggle. And I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a lot like studying a challenging subject like mathematics: small successes are worth the pain and struggle.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Throughout my entire academic life I felt like I was a mathematical zombie.  The funny thing is that I was often content with just knowing the operation.  I never really questioned the &quot;why&quot; and the &quot;how,&quot; or rather the thought of it never popped up.  I thought knowing and memorizing the operation IS the math.  It wasn&#039;t until sometime in college that I found out that math was beyond that, but it&#039;s sad that I had to wait till college to find that out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout my entire academic life I felt like I was a mathematical zombie.  The funny thing is that I was often content with just knowing the operation.  I never really questioned the &#8220;why&#8221; and the &#8220;how,&#8221; or rather the thought of it never popped up.  I thought knowing and memorizing the operation IS the math.  It wasn&#8217;t until sometime in college that I found out that math was beyond that, but it&#8217;s sad that I had to wait till college to find that out.</p>
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		By: Jonathan Osters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for z-scores, I always get to the formula THROUGH asking for meaning. 

Example: you have a set of data, say goldfish weights. Some numbers large, some small. 
Q1: What&#039;s &quot;typical&quot; here? (Review measures of center - kids mostly land on mean being &quot;typical&quot;)
Q2: If I wanted to show how typical or atypical these numbers were, how could I do that? (Many students suggest finding how far each number is from the mean, by subtracting the mean from each number)
Q2a: What do positive/negative/large/small numbers MEAN in this data set?
Q3: Suppose I had another data set that had different data (say, the weights of polar bears), but I wanted to make an apples-to-apples comparison between, say, the heaviest goldfish and the heaviest polar bear, how could I do that? (It&#039;s at this point that discussion relating to variability - how many standard deviations from the mean is it? - leads to the formula for z organically)

For normal distribution, I like Amy&#039;s idea. 

Very few of my students ever forget WHY they&#039;re doing the calculations they&#039;re doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for z-scores, I always get to the formula THROUGH asking for meaning. </p>
<p>Example: you have a set of data, say goldfish weights. Some numbers large, some small.<br />
Q1: What&#8217;s &#8220;typical&#8221; here? (Review measures of center &#8211; kids mostly land on mean being &#8220;typical&#8221;)<br />
Q2: If I wanted to show how typical or atypical these numbers were, how could I do that? (Many students suggest finding how far each number is from the mean, by subtracting the mean from each number)<br />
Q2a: What do positive/negative/large/small numbers MEAN in this data set?<br />
Q3: Suppose I had another data set that had different data (say, the weights of polar bears), but I wanted to make an apples-to-apples comparison between, say, the heaviest goldfish and the heaviest polar bear, how could I do that? (It&#8217;s at this point that discussion relating to variability &#8211; how many standard deviations from the mean is it? &#8211; leads to the formula for z organically)</p>
<p>For normal distribution, I like Amy&#8217;s idea. </p>
<p>Very few of my students ever forget WHY they&#8217;re doing the calculations they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		By: Michael Paul Goldenberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Paul, your experience is extremely common. What&#039;s good is that you&#039;re curious about understanding concepts and aware to some extent that the style of teaching you&#039;re encountering has something to do with what you&#039;re experiencing. Don&#039;t let anyone tell you that it&#039;s your fault (even if you feel that it is to some extent). 

There are increasing numbers of marvelous videos available online, generally free, that give treatments of various college math subjects that are more insightful and user-friendly. And even if they weren&#039;t, if the lectures are sound, you can watch them multiple times for clarification. Sometimes looking at a couple of lectures from different professors/teachers on the same topic will do the trick. And there are lots of places to post questions (Quora has some very good math people answering inquiries, for example). Don&#039;t despair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul, your experience is extremely common. What&#8217;s good is that you&#8217;re curious about understanding concepts and aware to some extent that the style of teaching you&#8217;re encountering has something to do with what you&#8217;re experiencing. Don&#8217;t let anyone tell you that it&#8217;s your fault (even if you feel that it is to some extent). </p>
<p>There are increasing numbers of marvelous videos available online, generally free, that give treatments of various college math subjects that are more insightful and user-friendly. And even if they weren&#8217;t, if the lectures are sound, you can watch them multiple times for clarification. Sometimes looking at a couple of lectures from different professors/teachers on the same topic will do the trick. And there are lots of places to post questions (Quora has some very good math people answering inquiries, for example). Don&#8217;t despair.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 02:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I currently am a college student majoring in math (minoring in secondary education) and I frequently feel like a mathematical zombie. So much that is being taught is over my head, and professors don&#039;t stop to clarify much of anything. When they do ask for questions, I am so far lost that I don&#039;t even know what to ask.

I feel as though this is similar to how a lot of students feel when asked to explain the concept of something like a z-score or derivative. Since it is so easy for teachers to move past the explanation quickly, as it makes sense to us, students feel lost very easily and are often embarrassed to ask for help. This then snowballs as the teaching continues and they feel even more lost, so they just check out and memorize how to solve the problem. It&#039;s a very unfortunate issue that is also very common.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently am a college student majoring in math (minoring in secondary education) and I frequently feel like a mathematical zombie. So much that is being taught is over my head, and professors don&#8217;t stop to clarify much of anything. When they do ask for questions, I am so far lost that I don&#8217;t even know what to ask.</p>
<p>I feel as though this is similar to how a lot of students feel when asked to explain the concept of something like a z-score or derivative. Since it is so easy for teachers to move past the explanation quickly, as it makes sense to us, students feel lost very easily and are often embarrassed to ask for help. This then snowballs as the teaching continues and they feel even more lost, so they just check out and memorize how to solve the problem. It&#8217;s a very unfortunate issue that is also very common.</p>
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		By: Pam Rawson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a college student, I was a mathematical zombie - I knew how to calculate and use a z-score and would do so correctly just about every time.

In my teacher life before Baxter Academy I taught with Core-Plus Mathematics, an integrated program with an extremely strong and well-developed statistics &#038; probability strand. It was only while learning with Core-Plus that I truly understood the meaning of a z-score. When I observed students learning through these materials, I was astounded that the approach helped students to develop their own formula by asking the simple contextual question, &quot;How many standard deviations away from the mean ...&quot;

A more interesting question for me, however, is why standardize in the first place? We have technology that will give us the p-value without standardizing, so why even bother? I wrote about the way this question played out in the classroom in April 2015. (https://rawsonmath.wordpress.com/2015/04/)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a college student, I was a mathematical zombie &#8211; I knew how to calculate and use a z-score and would do so correctly just about every time.</p>
<p>In my teacher life before Baxter Academy I taught with Core-Plus Mathematics, an integrated program with an extremely strong and well-developed statistics &amp; probability strand. It was only while learning with Core-Plus that I truly understood the meaning of a z-score. When I observed students learning through these materials, I was astounded that the approach helped students to develop their own formula by asking the simple contextual question, &#8220;How many standard deviations away from the mean &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>A more interesting question for me, however, is why standardize in the first place? We have technology that will give us the p-value without standardizing, so why even bother? I wrote about the way this question played out in the classroom in April 2015. (<a href="https://rawsonmath.wordpress.com/2015/04/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://rawsonmath.wordpress.com/2015/04/</a>)</p>
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