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		By: Suzanne von Oy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suzanne von Oy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just LOVE that you called this pseudocontext delicious.  :)  So funny.  Keep &#039;em coming.  

This issue of contextual nightmares has bothered me since I was sitting in the student&#039;s desk, learning Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2.  It is so easy to see through the veil of pretend real-world-application that I have always felt disingenuous when I have given my own students problems that are supposedly great applications of the math we&#039;re doing.  

Thank you for your Saturday reminders that those of us who dry heave a little every time we see a pseudocontext problem are not alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just LOVE that you called this pseudocontext delicious.  :)  So funny.  Keep &#8217;em coming.  </p>
<p>This issue of contextual nightmares has bothered me since I was sitting in the student&#8217;s desk, learning Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2.  It is so easy to see through the veil of pretend real-world-application that I have always felt disingenuous when I have given my own students problems that are supposedly great applications of the math we&#8217;re doing.  </p>
<p>Thank you for your Saturday reminders that those of us who dry heave a little every time we see a pseudocontext problem are not alone.</p>
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		By: You Guys Are Great #MTBoSBlogsplosion &#124; La Vie MathÃ©matique		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You Guys Are Great #MTBoSBlogsplosion &#124; La Vie MathÃ©matique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 04:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I used to just readÂ the bottom of the list but then I started to miss things from people like Dan Meyer&#8217;s [Pseudocontext Saturdays] and would feel left out when I saw references to it on Twitter. It&#8217;s also kind of fun to read [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I used to just readÂ the bottom of the list but then I started to miss things from people like Dan Meyer&#8217;s [Pseudocontext Saturdays] and would feel left out when I saw references to it on Twitter. It&#8217;s also kind of fun to read [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mr Henderson		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Year 6 in the UK we&#039;re just getting ready for our SATS tests and are blogging some real world questions that we&#039;ve (the children) have come up with. Hopefully we don&#039;t see this sort of real-world-that-never-really-happens-outside-of-a-textbook-so-isn&#039;t-really-real example in the actual exam!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Year 6 in the UK we&#8217;re just getting ready for our SATS tests and are blogging some real world questions that we&#8217;ve (the children) have come up with. Hopefully we don&#8217;t see this sort of real-world-that-never-really-happens-outside-of-a-textbook-so-isn&#8217;t-really-real example in the actual exam!</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431087</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;real -world link&quot; is utterly pointless, completely unrelated even to the pseudocontext. It reinforces the impression that mathematicians are enamored with numbers for their own sake. Who are we, the Count?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;real -world link&#8221; is utterly pointless, completely unrelated even to the pseudocontext. It reinforces the impression that mathematicians are enamored with numbers for their own sake. Who are we, the Count?</p>
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		By: William Carey		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Carey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was right! It was a vocabulary lesson for people who don&#039;t know what tornados are.

The little map is even worse. It&#039;s called a &quot;real world example&quot;, so we should be able to find a real Lake county that&#039;s bounded by Knox, Adams, Lucas, and Fox counties, right? Right?

No. There are five Lake Counties in the US: IL, FL, OH, MI, IN. The only state with both a Lake County and a Knox County seems to be Ohio, but they&#039;re nowhere near each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was right! It was a vocabulary lesson for people who don&#8217;t know what tornados are.</p>
<p>The little map is even worse. It&#8217;s called a &#8220;real world example&#8221;, so we should be able to find a real Lake county that&#8217;s bounded by Knox, Adams, Lucas, and Fox counties, right? Right?</p>
<p>No. There are five Lake Counties in the US: IL, FL, OH, MI, IN. The only state with both a Lake County and a Knox County seems to be Ohio, but they&#8217;re nowhere near each other.</p>
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		By: Curmudgeon		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 04:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn, I can&#039;t help it ... 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IEBV1NmFc3I/TbwXHG8l-BI/AAAAAAAACHc/kS9gvXkMYlA/s1600/tcl_bhm_track.png

It&#039;s kinda parallelogram-ish, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I can&#8217;t help it &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IEBV1NmFc3I/TbwXHG8l-BI/AAAAAAAACHc/kS9gvXkMYlA/s1600/tcl_bhm_track.png" rel="nofollow ugc">http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IEBV1NmFc3I/TbwXHG8l-BI/AAAAAAAACHc/kS9gvXkMYlA/s1600/tcl_bhm_track.png</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s kinda parallelogram-ish, you know.</p>
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		By: Randal Blackwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randal Blackwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually in the context of this problem, they may actually have a winner here.  Note the parallelogram represent an area the meteorologists have set as an area under tornado warning, meaning that a tornado is present in the area or imminent.  Thus the area represents where tornadoes may appear, not the area that will be damaged by a tornado.  Here is an example close to the textbook problem, illustrates a trapezoid not a parallelogram, but you get the gist:  http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id4419]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually in the context of this problem, they may actually have a winner here.  Note the parallelogram represent an area the meteorologists have set as an area under tornado warning, meaning that a tornado is present in the area or imminent.  Thus the area represents where tornadoes may appear, not the area that will be damaged by a tornado.  Here is an example close to the textbook problem, illustrates a trapezoid not a parallelogram, but you get the gist:  <a href="http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id4419" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id4419</a></p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431069&quot;&gt;Amy Roediger&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt; So I googled that and found tornadoes leave a pretty typical pattern of damage and it seems to never be a parallelogram.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Classic pseudocontext.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431069">Amy Roediger</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p> So I googled that and found tornadoes leave a pretty typical pattern of damage and it seems to never be a parallelogram.</p></blockquote>
<p>Classic pseudocontext.</p>
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		By: Amy Roediger		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy Roediger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 02:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the first one I guessed correctly, so I am feeling pretty proud of myself. I was trying to think of a way to save the problem - like many provide an actual aerial photo of tornado damage and asking how we could find the area without saying it&#039;s a parallelogram with maybe the chance for scaling and stuff. So &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?q=aerial+photos+tornado+damage&#038;espv=2&#038;biw=1280&#038;bih=609&#038;tbm=isch&#038;tbo=u&#038;source=univ&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwiPt6vRgrTRAhVs7IMKHac9DnsQsAQIGQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I googled that&lt;/a&gt; and found tornadoes leave a pretty typical pattern of damage and it seems to never be a parallelogram.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first one I guessed correctly, so I am feeling pretty proud of myself. I was trying to think of a way to save the problem &#8211; like many provide an actual aerial photo of tornado damage and asking how we could find the area without saying it&#8217;s a parallelogram with maybe the chance for scaling and stuff. So <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=aerial+photos+tornado+damage&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=609&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiPt6vRgrTRAhVs7IMKHac9DnsQsAQIGQ" rel="nofollow">I googled that</a> and found tornadoes leave a pretty typical pattern of damage and it seems to never be a parallelogram.</p>
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		By: William Carey		</title>
		<link>/2017/pseudocontext-saturdays-tornado/#comment-2431066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Carey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect, but am not sure, that this might be a third motif in pseudocontextual questions: including a picture to make sure you know what the thing being discussed *actually is*.

We&#039;ve written a question that uses the word &quot;tornado&quot; somewhere in the question. In case you do not know what one of those is, here is a picture of a tornado.

It&#039;s like combining a mini-vocabulary lesson with a math problem. The difficulty is that if you don&#039;t know what tornados are and do, if you don&#039;t have some intuitive sense of tornados, you have no meaningful chance of being able reason quantitatively about them.

I&#039;m eager to find out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect, but am not sure, that this might be a third motif in pseudocontextual questions: including a picture to make sure you know what the thing being discussed *actually is*.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve written a question that uses the word &#8220;tornado&#8221; somewhere in the question. In case you do not know what one of those is, here is a picture of a tornado.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like combining a mini-vocabulary lesson with a math problem. The difficulty is that if you don&#8217;t know what tornados are and do, if you don&#8217;t have some intuitive sense of tornados, you have no meaningful chance of being able reason quantitatively about them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m eager to find out!</p>
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