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		By: Diigo Links (Weekly) &#124; Another EducatorAl Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diigo Links (Weekly) &#124; Another EducatorAl Blog]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Putting the “Use” in “Look for and Make Use of Structure.” — dy/dan [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Putting the “Use” in “Look for and Make Use of Structure.” — dy/dan [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Pat Hennelly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing this! I am a pre-service teacher, and one of the things I have noticed is it is hard to have students recognize what the similarities are between certain graphs or even certain types of problems. Having them do an activity of this sort really helps them to develop those recognition skills needed to be successful in mathematics. This is definitely something I want to implement in my future classroom. Thank you for sharing this!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this! I am a pre-service teacher, and one of the things I have noticed is it is hard to have students recognize what the similarities are between certain graphs or even certain types of problems. Having them do an activity of this sort really helps them to develop those recognition skills needed to be successful in mathematics. This is definitely something I want to implement in my future classroom. Thank you for sharing this!</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439954&quot;&gt;katenerdypoo&lt;/a&gt;.

Dig the activity, Kate. I wonder if there are some useful extensions to ask students where they manipulate bands on the geoboard rather than just answering questions about the geoboards you provide. If that sounds interesting, copy and paste this link into &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.desmos.com/calculator/lsivtxuhls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;any graph component&lt;/a&gt; in an activity and see what you can do!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439954">katenerdypoo</a>.</p>
<p>Dig the activity, Kate. I wonder if there are some useful extensions to ask students where they manipulate bands on the geoboard rather than just answering questions about the geoboards you provide. If that sounds interesting, copy and paste this link into <a href="https://www.desmos.com/calculator/lsivtxuhls" rel="nofollow">any graph component</a> in an activity and see what you can do!</p>
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		By: Nick Hershman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Hershman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439922&quot;&gt;Shaun Errichiello&lt;/a&gt;.

@Shawn I liked the problem too and solved it with some transformations instead of writing new equations.

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/oyebnayhgk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439922">Shaun Errichiello</a>.</p>
<p>@Shawn I liked the problem too and solved it with some transformations instead of writing new equations.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.desmos.com/calculator/oyebnayhgk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.desmos.com/calculator/oyebnayhgk</a></p>
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		By: katenerdypoo		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katenerdypoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m excited to try this out with the students. i&#039;ve recently done linear functions with my 8th graders; this will be a nice review and extension.

i have my own desmos activity that is also a bit about seeing structure, modeled on the MYP criterion B (investigating patterns) rubric. 

i&#039;m curious what you think: https://teacher.desmos.com/activitybuilder/custom/5954c8a34d6ae00b7a5b5831

and a request: i hope the activity builder will allow for math type in regular response boxes because this all ends up looking hideous, unfortunately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m excited to try this out with the students. i&#8217;ve recently done linear functions with my 8th graders; this will be a nice review and extension.</p>
<p>i have my own desmos activity that is also a bit about seeing structure, modeled on the MYP criterion B (investigating patterns) rubric. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m curious what you think: <a href="https://teacher.desmos.com/activitybuilder/custom/5954c8a34d6ae00b7a5b5831" rel="nofollow ugc">https://teacher.desmos.com/activitybuilder/custom/5954c8a34d6ae00b7a5b5831</a></p>
<p>and a request: i hope the activity builder will allow for math type in regular response boxes because this all ends up looking hideous, unfortunately.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439935&quot;&gt;Elaine Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice! Hope it goes well, Elaine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439935">Elaine Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Nice! Hope it goes well, Elaine.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439945</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439920&quot;&gt;Michael Pershan&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps &quot;familiarity&quot; is better than &quot;boredom&quot; here. If I&#039;m trying to help you understand the abstraction we call a &quot;chair&quot; and I&#039;m showing you item after item, there is a moment of productive familiarity where your brain has the resources to describe that abstraction. If those items I&#039;m showing you are still novel, it&#039;s much harder to describe it.

Boredom through repetition &lt;em&gt;often&lt;/em&gt; creates the need for efficiency. &lt;em&gt;Sometimes&lt;/em&gt; that boredom also frees up the cognitive resources necessary for satisfying that need. I don&#039;t think I agree with that second statement as often as the first, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439920">Michael Pershan</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps &#8220;familiarity&#8221; is better than &#8220;boredom&#8221; here. If I&#8217;m trying to help you understand the abstraction we call a &#8220;chair&#8221; and I&#8217;m showing you item after item, there is a moment of productive familiarity where your brain has the resources to describe that abstraction. If those items I&#8217;m showing you are still novel, it&#8217;s much harder to describe it.</p>
<p>Boredom through repetition <em>often</em> creates the need for efficiency. <em>Sometimes</em> that boredom also frees up the cognitive resources necessary for satisfying that need. I don&#8217;t think I agree with that second statement as often as the first, though.</p>
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		By: Michael Pershan		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439943</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Pershan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439920&quot;&gt;Michael Pershan&lt;/a&gt;.

I see what you&#039;re going for, but I&#039;m having trouble making sense of it.  What I&#039;m hearing from you is that *whenever* someone has available cognitive resources to pay attention to something new they are ALSO bored. But working memory is all about cognition and boredom is an emotion -- I think? I&#039;m not sure how interestingness relates to working memory, but I don&#039;t think I believe that you&#039;re always bored when you&#039;re ready for learning.

But, anyway, isn&#039;t your teaching philosophy that you want students to be bored so that they feel a need for the existence of lists? I didn&#039;t think that your take was that boredom was required cognitively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439920">Michael Pershan</a>.</p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re going for, but I&#8217;m having trouble making sense of it.  What I&#8217;m hearing from you is that *whenever* someone has available cognitive resources to pay attention to something new they are ALSO bored. But working memory is all about cognition and boredom is an emotion &#8212; I think? I&#8217;m not sure how interestingness relates to working memory, but I don&#8217;t think I believe that you&#8217;re always bored when you&#8217;re ready for learning.</p>
<p>But, anyway, isn&#8217;t your teaching philosophy that you want students to be bored so that they feel a need for the existence of lists? I didn&#8217;t think that your take was that boredom was required cognitively.</p>
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		By: Thomas Lang		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439942</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Lang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah. The list feature in Desmos is crazy when you use it to draw all kinds of stuffs. Recently I ran through this &lt;a href=&quot;https://mathvault.ca/desmos-guide/#simultaneous&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guide&lt;/a&gt; which used the list feature to embed parameters into sine waves and quadratics,. Definitely some food for teachers when it comes to activities for students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. The list feature in Desmos is crazy when you use it to draw all kinds of stuffs. Recently I ran through this <a href="https://mathvault.ca/desmos-guide/#simultaneous" rel="nofollow">guide</a> which used the list feature to embed parameters into sine waves and quadratics,. Definitely some food for teachers when it comes to activities for students.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439941</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439934&quot;&gt;Dan Teague&lt;/a&gt;.

Awesome variations &amp; extensions, Dan. Thanks for passing them along.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2017/putting-the-use-in-look-for-and-make-use-of-structure/#comment-2439934">Dan Teague</a>.</p>
<p>Awesome variations &#038; extensions, Dan. Thanks for passing them along.</p>
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