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		By: Mark Grimm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Grimm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2442539&quot;&gt;Jeff Holcomb&lt;/a&gt;.

Jeff, your last sentence in your comment is quite compelling. The more I think about that, the more it makes sense. Remember the old interview question that went something like &quot;Is teaching an art or a science?&quot; I always answered that question with &quot;It&#039;s both.&quot; There has to be passion. Passion about helping people to help themselves. But there also has to be knowledge. Knowledge about the actual skills...management, content, organization, etc. In my mind, an advertised &quot;personal&quot; learning experience based on a technological &quot;tool&quot; is just that, a tool. The technology doesn&#039;t take into consideration all the variables present in a students mind, only what the student outputs. On a large scale, these tools are valuable for producing data. Data that can be useful, IF interpreted logically. Putting all a student&#039;s learning experience in one technological basket leaves out the human part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2442539">Jeff Holcomb</a>.</p>
<p>Jeff, your last sentence in your comment is quite compelling. The more I think about that, the more it makes sense. Remember the old interview question that went something like &#8220;Is teaching an art or a science?&#8221; I always answered that question with &#8220;It&#8217;s both.&#8221; There has to be passion. Passion about helping people to help themselves. But there also has to be knowledge. Knowledge about the actual skills&#8230;management, content, organization, etc. In my mind, an advertised &#8220;personal&#8221; learning experience based on a technological &#8220;tool&#8221; is just that, a tool. The technology doesn&#8217;t take into consideration all the variables present in a students mind, only what the student outputs. On a large scale, these tools are valuable for producing data. Data that can be useful, IF interpreted logically. Putting all a student&#8217;s learning experience in one technological basket leaves out the human part.</p>
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		By: Jeff Holcomb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Scott that the great teachers both care deeply about their students and are able to convey that to them. I&#039;ve been in Scott&#039;s classes and without a doubt he makes this happen. There is another piece great teachers (including Scott) bring-- a deep connected understanding of mathematics-- both from the personal viewpoint and the viewpoint of students. Fosnot&#039;s &quot;Landscapes of Learning&quot;, Ball&#039;s &quot;Mathematical Knowledge for Teaching&quot;, the concepts and practices of RME (Realistic Math Education-- Freudenthal), and Polya&#039;s analysis of &quot;Teaching, Math, and Teaching Math&quot;, all make good headway in capturing this. Caring, knowledge, and the hard work needed to bring that knowledge into the classroom-- that&#039;s what the great teachers I have seen do. Those teachers can see inside the heads of their students and know where they might want to go next. As Ball says, &quot;One eye on the interest and development of students, one eye on the mathematical horizon&quot;. In terms of computers being able to go alone at this, to paraphrase something I heard somewhere, &quot;Any teacher that can be replaced by a computer should be.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Scott that the great teachers both care deeply about their students and are able to convey that to them. I&#8217;ve been in Scott&#8217;s classes and without a doubt he makes this happen. There is another piece great teachers (including Scott) bring&#8211; a deep connected understanding of mathematics&#8211; both from the personal viewpoint and the viewpoint of students. Fosnot&#8217;s &#8220;Landscapes of Learning&#8221;, Ball&#8217;s &#8220;Mathematical Knowledge for Teaching&#8221;, the concepts and practices of RME (Realistic Math Education&#8211; Freudenthal), and Polya&#8217;s analysis of &#8220;Teaching, Math, and Teaching Math&#8221;, all make good headway in capturing this. Caring, knowledge, and the hard work needed to bring that knowledge into the classroom&#8211; that&#8217;s what the great teachers I have seen do. Those teachers can see inside the heads of their students and know where they might want to go next. As Ball says, &#8220;One eye on the interest and development of students, one eye on the mathematical horizon&#8221;. In terms of computers being able to go alone at this, to paraphrase something I heard somewhere, &#8220;Any teacher that can be replaced by a computer should be.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Better than admit he was wrong, Berger does the real rarity with the personalised learning crowd -- he actually asks other people what might work.

Contrast him with Bill Gates, who changes course without saying he was wrong and without asking people who actually teach why he was wrong.

Teachers said years ago that computerised &quot;personalised learning&quot; was a busted flush. 

He still has much to learn though. Instead of trying to work out whether traits come before genes or genes come before traits, a real teacher would find out what students needed and then teach them &lt;b&gt;side by side&lt;/b&gt;. If you teach factorising separately on the basis you did expansion last week, so they get that, then you are a mug. Things are never that simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than admit he was wrong, Berger does the real rarity with the personalised learning crowd &#8212; he actually asks other people what might work.</p>
<p>Contrast him with Bill Gates, who changes course without saying he was wrong and without asking people who actually teach why he was wrong.</p>
<p>Teachers said years ago that computerised &#8220;personalised learning&#8221; was a busted flush. </p>
<p>He still has much to learn though. Instead of trying to work out whether traits come before genes or genes come before traits, a real teacher would find out what students needed and then teach them <b>side by side</b>. If you teach factorising separately on the basis you did expansion last week, so they get that, then you are a mug. Things are never that simple.</p>
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		By: Aaron Kaswell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Kaswell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441974&quot;&gt;SueH&lt;/a&gt;.

Anytime! I&#039;m open to any medium. Just tell me what you prefer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441974">SueH</a>.</p>
<p>Anytime! I&#8217;m open to any medium. Just tell me what you prefer.</p>
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		By: Scott Farrand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Farrand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 01:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;span class=&quot;featuredtext&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Featured Comment&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;featuredcomment&quot;&gt;I’ll accept the risk of stating the obvious: my best teachers cared about me, and I felt that.  Teaching is an act of love.  A teacher who cares about each student is much more likely to, in that instant after a student responds to a question, find the positive value in the response and communicate encouragement to the student, verbally and nonverbally.  And students who feel cared for are more likely to have good things going on in their brains, as described by SueH.&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="featuredtext"><em>Featured Comment</em></span></p>
<div class="featuredcomment">I’ll accept the risk of stating the obvious: my best teachers cared about me, and I felt that.  Teaching is an act of love.  A teacher who cares about each student is much more likely to, in that instant after a student responds to a question, find the positive value in the response and communicate encouragement to the student, verbally and nonverbally.  And students who feel cared for are more likely to have good things going on in their brains, as described by SueH.</div>
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		By: Joanne Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the featured comment! 

To me, my best teachers only presented the content knowledge to me and let me decide how much I want to learn. I remember that I only took in things that I was ready to absorb. Some things are very good but I wasn’t able to take in when it was presented to me. 

I believe that everyone knows themselves the best and throughout the years people have developed theories about their lives after I almost screwed up two student’s decision making in my first year as a teacher. That was painstaking. I gave the kids some advice. For the first one, I thought that would be the best for him, but what I didn’t realize is that the kid was super intelligent- much intelligent than I, as his teacher. The advice I gave him was superficial and that almost cause him to make the no-so-good choice for his life. 

For the second one, the kid hated math so I gave the kid some advice and it turned out to be my advice was not helpful at all. 

Honestly, I am very regretful. I agree with the featured comment that kids can personalize their learning by themselves. :))))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the featured comment! </p>
<p>To me, my best teachers only presented the content knowledge to me and let me decide how much I want to learn. I remember that I only took in things that I was ready to absorb. Some things are very good but I wasn’t able to take in when it was presented to me. </p>
<p>I believe that everyone knows themselves the best and throughout the years people have developed theories about their lives after I almost screwed up two student’s decision making in my first year as a teacher. That was painstaking. I gave the kids some advice. For the first one, I thought that would be the best for him, but what I didn’t realize is that the kid was super intelligent- much intelligent than I, as his teacher. The advice I gave him was superficial and that almost cause him to make the no-so-good choice for his life. </p>
<p>For the second one, the kid hated math so I gave the kid some advice and it turned out to be my advice was not helpful at all. </p>
<p>Honestly, I am very regretful. I agree with the featured comment that kids can personalize their learning by themselves. :))))</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441972&quot;&gt;Aaron Kaswell&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for commenting, Aaron. I&#039;d love to hear more about what Teach to One did that the Summit PLP doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441972">Aaron Kaswell</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting, Aaron. I&#8217;d love to hear more about what Teach to One did that the Summit PLP doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441986&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

No offense taken with the scorn, I think PBL, like other buzz-words that pop up in education can often lose their meaning so I wanted to qualify with authentic just as a way to say that I don&#039;t think the 
 word should be tossed around lightly. What I mean by authentic is projected BASED learning, not project ORIENTED learning. Basically, how do students learn about a topic by doing a project, not summarize their learning in a project. When done well, I feel like students are able to explore/create novel ideas and live in productive struggle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441986">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>No offense taken with the scorn, I think PBL, like other buzz-words that pop up in education can often lose their meaning so I wanted to qualify with authentic just as a way to say that I don&#8217;t think the<br />
 word should be tossed around lightly. What I mean by authentic is projected BASED learning, not project ORIENTED learning. Basically, how do students learn about a topic by doing a project, not summarize their learning in a project. When done well, I feel like students are able to explore/create novel ideas and live in productive struggle.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441986&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Authentic&quot; project based learning, eh? 

Is that the sort when it fails it isn&#039;t &quot;authentic&quot;, and when it succeeds turns out to have a large, but hidden, dose of traditional learning?

My apologies for the scorn, but if a style of education is so hard to get right that it needs &quot;authentic&quot; in front of it, then it will almost certainly fail over time in the real classroom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/must-read-larry-bergers-confession-question-about-personalized-learning/#comment-2441986">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Authentic&#8221; project based learning, eh? </p>
<p>Is that the sort when it fails it isn&#8217;t &#8220;authentic&#8221;, and when it succeeds turns out to have a large, but hidden, dose of traditional learning?</p>
<p>My apologies for the scorn, but if a style of education is so hard to get right that it needs &#8220;authentic&#8221; in front of it, then it will almost certainly fail over time in the real classroom.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think there are some answers in authentic project based learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some answers in authentic project based learning.</p>
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