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		By: I want to see the volcanoes &#8211; Degrees of Understanding		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I want to see the volcanoes &#8211; Degrees of Understanding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] you know what he is talking about? In an article reflecting on mistakes in the math classroom, Dan MeyerÂ encourages teachers to respond to incorrect answers with a simple [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] you know what he is talking about? In an article reflecting on mistakes in the math classroom, Dan MeyerÂ encourages teachers to respond to incorrect answers with a simple [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mistakes &#124; Five Twelve Thirteen		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2454166</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] teachers disagree about mistakes. Just check out the comments on this blog post from Dan Meyer. Some folks argue that students don&#8217;t make mistakes, they just sometimes [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] teachers disagree about mistakes. Just check out the comments on this blog post from Dan Meyer. Some folks argue that students don&#8217;t make mistakes, they just sometimes [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Evan Rushton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Rushton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449311&quot;&gt;Aaron Bieniek&lt;/a&gt;.

“Students may not understand what they see, rather, they see what they understand.” Awesome Aaron.  

This comment led me to 

&quot;... mathematics as a practice seems to be mainly in the service of economics and warfare. I am calling for a radical reimagination of mathematics, a version that embraces the body, emotions, and harmony.

Where is math as a human process being created by human people Â­ creating versus redoing what others have done.&quot; - Rochelle Gutierrez, p. 45
http://www.msri.org/workshops/836/schedules/21847/documents/3077/assets/28783

Amen. 10/10. Thank you Rochelle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449311">Aaron Bieniek</a>.</p>
<p>“Students may not understand what they see, rather, they see what they understand.” Awesome Aaron.  </p>
<p>This comment led me to </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; mathematics as a practice seems to be mainly in the service of economics and warfare. I am calling for a radical reimagination of mathematics, a version that embraces the body, emotions, and harmony.</p>
<p>Where is math as a human process being created by human people Â­ creating versus redoing what others have done.&#8221; &#8211; Rochelle Gutierrez, p. 45<br />
<a href="http://www.msri.org/workshops/836/schedules/21847/documents/3077/assets/28783" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.msri.org/workshops/836/schedules/21847/documents/3077/assets/28783</a></p>
<p>Amen. 10/10. Thank you Rochelle.</p>
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		By: Rochelle Gutierrez		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2451392</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rochelle Gutierrez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449311&quot;&gt;Aaron Bieniek&lt;/a&gt;.

Reminds me of the distinction between Conceptions vs. Misconceptions; Windows and Mirrors (In Lak&#039;ech)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449311">Aaron Bieniek</a>.</p>
<p>Reminds me of the distinction between Conceptions vs. Misconceptions; Windows and Mirrors (In Lak&#8217;ech)</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449886&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt; Or is it okay in this case to say you did a great job of understanding and you recognized what I wanted you to recognize but you simply made a calculation error?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right. If I&#039;m confident that students didn&#039;t do what they meant to do, I don&#039;t have a problem making that observation, telling them that their intent makes a lot of sense to me, that they just need to make sure they enacted it correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449886">Derek</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p> Or is it okay in this case to say you did a great job of understanding and you recognized what I wanted you to recognize but you simply made a calculation error?</p></blockquote>
<p>Right. If I&#8217;m confident that students didn&#8217;t do what they meant to do, I don&#8217;t have a problem making that observation, telling them that their intent makes a lot of sense to me, that they just need to make sure they enacted it correctly.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2018 16:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really like this idea and I think that it could really help students mindset about math. I wonder how you would handle a situation where it seems the students understood the pattern and attempted to add 17 all 6 times but did not manage to come up with the right value. If they had the right idea but messed up on the math would you still frame it as not being a mistake? Or is it okay in this case to say you did a great job of understanding and you recognized what I wanted you to recognize but you simply made a calculation error?

I feel that this is a great thing to think about when looking at and responding to student work. It will feel like more work and might be more difficult on the teachers part, but it should have a valuable impact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this idea and I think that it could really help students mindset about math. I wonder how you would handle a situation where it seems the students understood the pattern and attempted to add 17 all 6 times but did not manage to come up with the right value. If they had the right idea but messed up on the math would you still frame it as not being a mistake? Or is it okay in this case to say you did a great job of understanding and you recognized what I wanted you to recognize but you simply made a calculation error?</p>
<p>I feel that this is a great thing to think about when looking at and responding to student work. It will feel like more work and might be more difficult on the teachers part, but it should have a valuable impact.</p>
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		By: thaslam		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thaslam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449722&quot;&gt;Roberto Catanuto&lt;/a&gt;.

Roberto, 
Ain&#039;t that the truth!  I feel like a of of my energy gets spent on trying to &quot;ignore&quot; that test-oriented culture that is far to prevalent in our district and feeder schools.  Healthy attitudes towards assessment are just as important as healthy attitudes towards &quot;mistakes&quot;.

I love the  line in Principles to Actions that says, &quot;support the learning of important mathematics and furnish useful information to both teachers and students&quot; and that it should motivate, support, and improve math learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449722">Roberto Catanuto</a>.</p>
<p>Roberto,<br />
Ain&#8217;t that the truth!  I feel like a of of my energy gets spent on trying to &#8220;ignore&#8221; that test-oriented culture that is far to prevalent in our district and feeder schools.  Healthy attitudes towards assessment are just as important as healthy attitudes towards &#8220;mistakes&#8221;.</p>
<p>I love the  line in Principles to Actions that says, &#8220;support the learning of important mathematics and furnish useful information to both teachers and students&#8221; and that it should motivate, support, and improve math learning.</p>
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		By: Roberto Catanuto		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto Catanuto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 16:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My opinion is Mistakes are wonderful as long as you work in:
a) project based learning environment
b) a learning environment which is not for test only, but also learning for the sake of learning not testing etc.
I&#039;ve always found very hard to leverage the power of mistakes in a test-oriented school or classroom etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is Mistakes are wonderful as long as you work in:<br />
a) project based learning environment<br />
b) a learning environment which is not for test only, but also learning for the sake of learning not testing etc.<br />
I&#8217;ve always found very hard to leverage the power of mistakes in a test-oriented school or classroom etc.</p>
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		By: Sneaky fuzzy maths &#8211; Filling the pail		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sneaky fuzzy maths &#8211; Filling the pail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2018 06:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Meyer, one of the foremost proponents of fuzzy maths*, has written a couple of blog posts (here and here) where he argues against calling a mathematical mistake a mistake. He illustrates it with [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Meyer, one of the foremost proponents of fuzzy maths*, has written a couple of blog posts (here and here) where he argues against calling a mathematical mistake a mistake. He illustrates it with [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Julie McNamara		</title>
		<link>/2018/that-isnt-a-mistake/#comment-2449628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie McNamara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;span class=&quot;featuredtext&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Super helpful.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;featuredcomment&quot;&gt;The article, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nctm.org/Publications/teaching-children-mathematics/2005/Vol12/Issue4/Are-They-Wrong_-Or-Did-They-Just-Answer-a-Different-Question_/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are they wrong? Or did they just answer a different question?&lt;/a&gt;&quot;  from TCM (November 2005, Vol. 12, Issue 4)  is a great way to help us reorient our approach to unexpected answers.&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="featuredtext"><em>Super helpful.</em></span></p>
<div class="featuredcomment">The article, &#8220;<a href="https://www.nctm.org/Publications/teaching-children-mathematics/2005/Vol12/Issue4/Are-They-Wrong_-Or-Did-They-Just-Answer-a-Different-Question_/" rel="nofollow">Are they wrong? Or did they just answer a different question?</a>&#8221;  from TCM (November 2005, Vol. 12, Issue 4)  is a great way to help us reorient our approach to unexpected answers.</div>
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